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Jan 11, 2022 15:48:48   #
Greg from Romeoville illinois Loc: Romeoville illinois
 
https://www.techspot.com/news/92915-canon-printer-owners-get-official-guidance-bypass-printer.html

Canon has shown how to bypass lack of chip in their cartridges. Now you can use 3rd party cartridges if you dare....

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Jan 12, 2022 10:03:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I wonder if that will apply to household printers, though. (I just skimmed the article.)

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Jan 12, 2022 12:25:46   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
OK, Lets find a cheaper ink. We have thousands in our equipment, hours in time and expense going out and taking the pictures and processing them. Now we want to show all our work, so we buy a good Canon printer (which is calculated to it's ink) and now we can save money in buying a non matching ink to show your work.
Why bother holding off to the end to cut corners, buy a cheerer camera, lens and printer.
Sorry for going off but, we spend money, time etc for a great picture and when we are going to show to the world we cut corners.

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Jan 12, 2022 13:00:25   #
Floyd Loc: Misplaced Texan in Florence, Alabama
 
Some "cheaper ink" is as good (IMHO) as the brand name. A printer that uses 6 cartridges, using brand name ink costing $105 per set, would mean I would buy the equivalent of 3-4 printers every year. I recently purchased a new printer and, due to trying to get family calendars out in time for Christmas, used refillable cartridges from a reliable company immediately following the brand ink set, resulting in the same picture being printed using brand ink and one using the much less expensive refillable. I would challenge anyone to put these side by side and determine which is which.

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Jan 12, 2022 13:13:19   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
Greg from Romeoville illinois wrote:
https://www.techspot.com/news/92915-canon-printer-owners-get-official-guidance-bypass-printer.html

Canon has shown how to bypass lack of chip in their cartridges. Now you can use 3rd party cartridges if you dare....


I have a Canon TS8320 printer, it is a small one. I have been using ink from 1ink for about a year and I have not had one minute's trouble. Now, I can't say using second market ink will work with anyone else's Canon printer, but for me they work in mine, and all 6 ink cartridges cost me about $54.00 total.

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Jan 12, 2022 13:41:36   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
If I were printing single prints to sell I would absolutely stick with OEM ink and build it into the price. But I print ~1,000 images each year to bind into books and give away to family as Christmas presents. Been doing it for 40+ years. (All B&W, all square - 8.0 inches now, 7.5 inches in the wet darkroom days, allowing for the 1/4 inch margins.)

Bought a pair of Canon Pro-10 printers for the 2016 run and used OEM inks exclusively. Kept meticulous track of usage, so I know how much of each color goes into one of my 8x8 images. It comes out to $0.675 per print for OEM ink at $14.95 per cartridge - all sources were the same price, from Amazon to my local camera store, where I bought the printers.

I kept all of the empty OEM cartridges, and for the next 5 years have reset the chips and refilled them using Precision Colors ink. Cost comes to about $2.00 per cartridge, which translates to $0.09 per print. There have been no significant blockages in either of these pigment printer. Both of them sit basically unused for 11 months, and often work perfectly when fired up again. At most they take 1 or 2 cleaning cycles to return to normal.

The extra $585 I would have paid for OEM ink each year would not have produced any better looking prints. And the annual savings do not seem to have cost anything in terms of printer function or reliability. (I did an initial calculation that showed if I got only the first year's run out of refilled cartridges, and if they then glopped up the print heads beyond repair, I still would have saved enough cash to buy almost two new printers - they were on special when I got 'em.)

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Jan 12, 2022 15:14:43   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Floid, you are correct with the dollars but, the printers are designed to give proper color prints with that exact color supplied for that printer. The aftermarket people don't have a different red or what ever for Canon XX and a Epson XY.
The print is your culmination of all you work and expense that went in to you showing your final best you did.
Just my opinion.

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Jan 12, 2022 15:19:12   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
Picture Taker wrote:
OK, Lets find a cheaper ink. We have thousands in our equipment, hours in time and expense going out and taking the pictures and processing them. Now we want to show all our work, so we buy a good Canon printer (which is calculated to it's ink) and now we can save money in buying a non matching ink to show your work.
Why bother holding off to the end to cut corners, buy a cheerer camera, lens and printer.
Sorry for going off but, we spend money, time etc for a great picture and when we are going to show to the world we cut corners.
OK, Lets find a cheaper ink. We have thousands in... (show quote)


Have always use 3rd party ink. Never had a problem...

Ed

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Jan 12, 2022 15:26:26   #
Rich2236 Loc: E. Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
I did have an industrial printer at one time...I could print up to 20x30. The inks were archival pigment inks. The combination of printer and ink, is the only way to properly sell photographic prints. Anything less, and you are inviting problems with the buyer when the print begins to fade. Personally, I would stick with a commercial print company, as they guarantee their work. So it costs a little more, but the "piece of mind," is well worth the price, and, you take into consideration the price when you add your profit margin.
The printers they manufacture today are mainly personal printers and not really commercial quality. (Some printers are commercial grade, but why spend soooo much time in the print room.)

My 2 cents!!!

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Jan 12, 2022 15:35:37   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
If I sold prints as a Pro, I would use OEM ink (and write off the cost) . But I dont. So I use Ink Farm in my Canon printer. Have for 5 years. If the 3rd party ink kills the printer, I dont care as I have saved enough for 3 or 4 printers. ( Ink Farm ink is chipped)

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Jan 12, 2022 16:49:45   #
Greg from Romeoville illinois Loc: Romeoville illinois
 
Picture Taker wrote:
OK, Lets find a cheaper ink.


I agree with you if I am either selling or producing photo's of family and want an archival ink with perfect rendering. At all other times, the archival accuracy does not outweigh the cost. If I am selling, I would use a professional print service that would guarantee the client would be happy with the final product.

What I posted is a way for those that do not need perfection a way to print using Canon printers that require a chip in the toner cartridge.

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Jan 12, 2022 16:56:25   #
Greg from Romeoville illinois Loc: Romeoville illinois
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I wonder if that will apply to household printers, though. (I just skimmed the article.)


From what I gather from the article, this is more for business printers under their "ImmageRunner" that include multi-function capabilities including stapling, three hole punching, and book binding.

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Jan 12, 2022 22:26:30   #
Smudgey Loc: Ohio, Calif, Now Arizona
 
I have been using 3rd party cartridges for years, no problem.

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Jan 12, 2022 22:52:05   #
Bret Perry
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I wonder if that will apply to household printers, though. (I just skimmed the article.)


Not really, the issue is only with large multi-function office printers, not home printers.

I'm kinda shocked, though, one of the reasons that my past 3 printers have been Canons is their home printers DID NOT prevent you from using 3rd-party ink while Epson had "DRM" chips.

My first Canon printer lasted many years, the 2nd was a stop-gap I bought when the first one broke but Canon's tank model was announced but not quite available.

I replaced 2nd with a Canon Tank model 6 months later when the ink ran out ($125 for 2nd printer, would be $100 for its replacement ink).

Tank was more expensive but worth it — a year later and only used one bottle of ink in each color, which is cheap.

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Jan 12, 2022 23:36:38   #
Laramie Loc: Tempe
 
In my opinion, RGB is RGB. Same for CMYK. I had a Canon Photo Printer some years back. If you didn't use it every day the print heads clogged. If you did you bought more ink. When the print heads clogged good I pitched it and bought a Black and White Laser printer. I still have it, too. If I need an image printed I send it out.

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