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Jan 3, 2022 23:17:25   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Lucian wrote:
That's very good that you went the part 107 route, however, most drone flyers are not interested in going through all that studying and cost, just to fly for a bit of fun from time to time. The OP asked specific questions and from what he was asking, I believe most of us would be inclined to think that the OP did not want to go through all that you are putting yourself through, just to fly their drone to take a few photos. As for various FAA parts, the 107 has only been around for the past several years, but there are other parts that you don't seem familiar with such as FAR Part 103 which has been around for decades.

Pilots don't need to know every one of them, but should research the ones that are applicable to what they wish to do in the airspace. The TRUST exam only came about a few months ago, so is very new, but very easy and is basically a formality, so that if you screw up, the FAA can bust you and you can't try to use the excuse that you did not know about those rules. Not that such a statement was ever any help if a person were to be busted by the FAA.
That's very good that you went the part 107 route,... (show quote)


"The OP asked specific questions and from what he was asking, I believe most of us would be inclined to think that the OP did not want to go through all that you are putting"

Lucian,

I AM the OP. I did not have any questions. Not am I "going through all that". I'm only having fun learning some new stuff.

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Jan 4, 2022 08:23:56   #
Robg
 
bsprague wrote:
"I live close to an uncontrolled airport but LAANC is not available outside controlled airspace."

Which airport? I can look it up on a "sectional" chart and try to figure out the airspace. It will be a good test of what I think I'm learning in my course.

Thank you for the offer.

The airport is Wings Field in or near Blue Bell, PA.

My DJI Fly app shows on its map that I am in an 'Enhanced warning zone' but not in the 'Authorization zone'. On the map, the latter looks like the flight path for take off and landing. The app also seems to imply that flying in the former, the warning zone, is permitted, whereas it's not permitted without authorization in the 'Authorization zone.'

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Jan 4, 2022 09:26:00   #
Robg
 
Lucian wrote:
FAA can often be surprisingly helpful. It's not always their old motto of "The FAA is not happy, until you're not happy". You can't just fly your drone, even at 70ft AGL, legally, if you are within the specified airspace around an airport. Just because you are unable to contact anyone, does not give you the right to just go and fly, of course. Just talk it over with your local FAA office, they'll be happy and you'll be happy.

Thank you for the advice. I'll certainly take it into consideration. Your positive experience may be enough to offset all of my negative experiences with a large variety of government beauraucrats.

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Jan 4, 2022 10:11:24   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Robg wrote:
Thank you for the offer.

The airport is Wings Field in or near Blue Bell, PA.

My DJI Fly app shows on its map that I am in an 'Enhanced warning zone' but not in the 'Authorization zone'. On the map, the latter looks like the flight path for take off and landing. The app also seems to imply that flying in the former, the warning zone, is permitted, whereas it's not permitted without authorization in the 'Authorization zone.'


I found the airport! First glance suggests that directly above is Class E airspace starting at 700 feet above the ground. Above that is a section of the Philadelphia Class B airspace that starts at 3500 feet above mean sea level. I think that means you can fly a drone there up to the legal max of 400 feet AGL.

Before you do fly your drone there, I want to do some more checking today. East coast airspace is complicated!



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Jan 4, 2022 10:18:49   #
Robg
 
bsprague wrote:
I found the airport!...
Before you do fly your drone there, I want to do some more checking today. East coast airspace is complicated!

Thanks! Looking forward to see what else you find.

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Jan 4, 2022 10:59:15   #
alemorkam Loc: Central Florida
 
THe DJI Mini 2 is very quiet, comparably.

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Jan 4, 2022 12:43:55   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
alemorkam wrote:
THe DJI Mini 2 is very quiet, comparably.


I too have the DJI Mini 2. Since this is a photographer's forum, my view is that there are only two reasonable choices for useful image quality right now. The Mini 2 is the first at $450 to $600. The other is that DJI Mavic Air 2S. At $1000 to $1300, it is bigger, has a larger sensor, is "stronger" and has a few useful more operational features. The price differences have to do with accessories, primarily extra batteries.

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Jan 4, 2022 15:06:19   #
Robg
 
bsprague wrote:
I too have the DJI Mini 2.

I also have the Mini 2, after starting with the original Mini (or Mini1). My son has the Mavic. Other than price, already mentioned, and the Mini 2's weight which allows it to be unregistered, the other important difference which is one where the Mavic beats the Mini is on downward and upward automatic collision detection/evasion. The Mavic will avoid obstacles below and above, but with the Mini it's up to the operator.

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Jan 4, 2022 15:10:20   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Robg wrote:
I also have the Mini 2, after starting with the original Mini (or Mini1). My son has the Mavic. Other than price, already mentioned, and the Mini 2's weight which allows it to be unregistered, the other important difference which is one where the Mavic beats the Mini is on downward and upward automatic collision detection/evasion. The Mavic will avoid obstacles below and above, but with the Mini it's up to the operator.


"but with the Mini it's up to the operator" which is why most airplanes that haul humans around still have real pilots.

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Jan 4, 2022 19:58:59   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Robg wrote:
Thanks! Looking forward to see what else you find.


I found out a lot! I posted my analysis in a Pilot Institute study group. It was confirmed correct. The FAA version is that you are in clear to fly airspace.

That study group discussion lead me to the confusion of what DJI uses to maintain safe airspace decisions against how the FAA does it. Although both are based on sound data, the logic (or lack of logic!) in their processes varies.

If you want a more clear explanation if how and why the systems are different, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaNbsBudbWI

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Jan 4, 2022 21:46:17   #
Robg
 
bsprague wrote:
I found out a lot!

If you want a more clear explanation if how and why the systems are different, watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaNbsBudbWI

Thanks to you now I've found out a lot too!

The you tube video you linked was extreme useful and tied a whole bunch of stuff together for me.

I can't thank you enough!

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Jan 4, 2022 22:31:17   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Robg wrote:
Thanks to you now I've found out a lot too!

The you tube video you linked was extreme useful and tied a whole bunch of stuff together for me.

I can't thank you enough!


You are very welcome. If it weren't for your question, I would not have figured it out either.

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Apr 24, 2022 23:11:21   #
flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT
 
bsprague wrote:
Thank you! I was blind that it existed.

But...you posted there?

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