Sharpness and Mirror Slap (Page 2): Yup. Been that way forever.

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OnDSnap wrote:

My vote= assuming hand holding that is, poor operator practice...improper or poor camera holding technique, and JABBING at the shutter release and not PRESSING gently. Barring to slow a shutter speed, to slow for specific object in motion. Shutter slap and shutter movement in higher end cameras are IMO negligible.

Yup. Been that way forever.

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joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA

billnikon wrote:

It also helps to have a fast shutter speed. With a fast shutter speed, you can easily shoot hand held with little to no effect of mirror slap, even at 10 fames per second.

A spectacular capture 💎💎💎💎💎

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

joer wrote:

Mirrorless cameras have no mirror slap.

But mirrorless camera's do have mirrors.

BBurns Loc: South Bay, California

cactuspic wrote:

I remember with fondness my early model Pentax 67 that had a ferocious slap to its shot that Bobby Hull would have been proud of. As for irony,we are a funny species...often, unintentionally so. Irwin

I, too, shot with an early Honeywell-Pentax 67.
I remember sending it in for the Mirror lock up mod. It felt like slamming a half sheet of plywood up.
Many later bodies had the MLU option built in.

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billnikon wrote:

But mirrorless camera's do have mirrors.

ROTFLMFAO

And castrati have cajones, whales have feet, etc etc. BFD.

Bill_de Loc: US

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ROTFLMFAO

And castrati have cajones, whales have feet, etc etc. BFD.

Bet he was thinking shutters rather than mirrors. But one never knows for sure.

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Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA

I can testify from personal experience. My Hassie 500C had mirror slap whether it was hand held or on a tripod. I worked to minimize it by controlling environment (on a tripod or a higher shutter speed). And My Nikon D800E has a rather large mirror slap, compared to my D850. Comparison is both on an equal/same heavy tripod to see what shutter speed would minimize/eliminate the vibration of the shutter slap as it affects the sharpness of the image. - I believe that the far higher MP resolution sensors for the D800E and D850 make the mirror slap and any other influence on image sharpness is higher that when we were all using lower resolution sensors.

The D850 definitely generates less mirror slap than the 36MP D800E while delivering 45.6MP. I am very happy. And I adapt the use of my two D800E cameras with respect for the need to provide for potential mirror slap when I am shooting pictures. (Your camera will be different than mine. But the problem and potential solution or solutions are necessary for you to learn and adapt to when taking pictures.) In the studio with one of my D800E's, I use a heavy, robust tripod to lessen any mirror slap when taking pictures. Plus, I take 2 or 3 exposures of each shot and review each image at 100% to select the most sharp image, discarding the lesser sacrificial exposures.

OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919

Dirt Farmer: Your quotation left out possibly the most important part. One uses mirror up only for tripod time exposures. Otherwise if your camera is loose and worn out and the lens and lens mount is worn out---well then the dp type "nothing article" might have merit? Otherwise----mirror up for time exposures on a "sturdy tripod."----Eric

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

OldSchool-WI wrote:

Dirt Farmer: Your quotation left out possibly the most important part. One uses mirror up only for tripod time exposures. Otherwise if your camera is loose and worn out and the lens and lens mount is worn out---well then the dp type "nothing article" might have merit? Otherwise----mirror up for time exposures on a "sturdy tripod."----Eric

If using mirror-up, a tripod is certainly useful for keeping the camera pointing at the subject, but I did try mirror up a couple times in the study, hand held. If your camera is loose and worn out and the lens and lens mount is worn out why are you worrying only about the mirror? Time for a new camera.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

billnikon wrote:

It also helps to have a fast shutter speed. With a fast shutter speed, you can easily shoot hand held with little to no effect of mirror slap, even at 10 fames per second.

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Bill_de wrote:

Bet he was thinking shutters rather than mirrors. But one never knows for sure.

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I’ll take that bet. Smartass hogs love to show off their superior but sadly useless knowledge by referring to the mirrors in some rangefinder mechanisms.

OldSchool-WI Loc: Brandon, Wisconsin 53919

DirtFarmer wrote:

If using mirror-up, a tripod is certainly useful for keeping the camera pointing at the subject, but I did try mirror up a couple times in the study, hand held. If your camera is loose and worn out and the lens and lens mount is worn out why are you worrying only about the mirror? Time for a new camera.

Mirror slap has never been a problem with my five Sigma cameras. They have "mirror up" on one of the dials---for time exposure--though.---ew

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Tried slapping my Sony with a mirror just prior to exposure. Messy ! Next time, I’ll use a plastic mirror.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

DirtFarmer wrote:

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I have very very seldom used the mirror up feature.
When used it is for very high magnification.
My SLRs and DSLRs seem to not have an issue of the mirror causing image degradation.