Focusing screen (Page 2): While the grid option is an electronic one but I didn't see anybody mention grid before your post. The OP said his focusing screen fell off. But I heard that...

BebuLamar

CHG_CANON wrote:

"Focusing Screen"?

Do you mean the mirror inside the camera body? Do you mean the viewfinder eyepiece on the back of the camera?

When I search focusing screen in the EOS 5DII manual, that tool is an electronic menu setting, not something physical. From your description it sounds like the mirror inside the camera, something I've never experienced, but a problem I think the original 5D had. If this is the problem, maybe your EOS 5DII is reaching end of life?

While the grid option is an electronic one but I didn't see anybody mention grid before your post. The OP said his focusing screen fell off. But I heard that the mirror on the original 5D likes to come off too.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

CHG_CANON wrote:

My response has four (4) question marks (?) to the OP attempting to clarify their post. I'm not mind reading anything ... You've taken their post at face value. We await for confirmation and / or clarification. But, in the meantime, you've attempted to school me on what specifically the OP meant. With that superpower, again, what you doing here in the mud with us bugs?

I had that camera and I know specifically what he meant. The inexpensive focusing screen fell out of its support bracket. Anyone who has changed focusing screens in any one of the EOS models which had that feature would fully understand the issue he was having. This is not brain surgery. My "schooling" of you was based on you being adamant about spreading misinformation regarding Canon 5D Mark II focusing screens. You made a mistake. Admit it and accept it.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

mwsilvers wrote:

I had that camera and I know specifically what he meant. The inexpensive focusing screen fell out of its support bracket. Anyone who has changed focusing screens in any one of the EOS models which had that feature would fully understand the issue he was having. This is not brain surgery. My "schooling" of you was based on you being adamant about spreading misinformation regarding Canon 5D Mark II focusing screens. You made a mistake. Admit it and accept it.

Let's let the OP chime in before anyone needs to stand over another beating their chest in celebration of their self-perceived brilliance ... In the meantime, I'll put you onto the CHG_CANON Fanboyz Club mailing list for your hat and T-shirt.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

BebuLamar wrote:

While the grid option is an electronic one but I didn't see anybody mention grid before your post. The OP said his focusing screen fell off. But I heard that the mirror on the original 5D likes to come off too.

The grid option on the Canon 5D Mark II is not electronic. You need to purchase and insert the physical Canon grid focusing screen, Eg-D.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

mwsilvers wrote:

The grid option on the Canon 5D Mark II is not electronic. You need to purchase and insert the physical Canon grid focusing screen, Eg-D.

Do you have other superpowers too, maybe ZAP him into understanding?

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

CHG_CANON wrote:

Let's let the OP chime in before anyone needs to stand over another beating their chest in celebration of their self-perceived brilliance ... In the meantime, I'll put you onto the CHG_CANON Fanboyz Club mailing list for your hat and T-shirt.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

CHG_CANON wrote:

Let's let the OP chime in before anyone needs to stand over another beating their chest in celebration of their self-perceived brilliance ... In the meantime, I'll put you onto the CHG_CANON Fanboyz Club mailing list for your hat and T-shirt.

Just because you are not familiar with focusing screens and didn't understand the OP's problem you should not assume that others were similarly confused. There is absolutely no ambiguity in the OP's very clear posts.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

CHG_CANON wrote:

Do you have other superpowers too, maybe ZAP him into understanding?

Do you have something against facts? Are you still erroneously suggesting that the 5D Mark II viewfinder can be electronically changed to a grid pattern?

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

mwsilvers wrote:

Do you have something against facts? Are you still erroneously suggesting that the 5D Mark II viewfinder can be electronically changed to a grid pattern?

Please!
Please!!

Please take you stinky hairy foot off my chest, your crushing me and my ego ....

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

mwsilvers wrote:

Just because you are not familiar with focusing screens and didn't understand the OP's problem you should not assume that others were similarly confused. There is absolutely no ambiguity in the OP's very clear posts.

I was......

Just because you've been there gave you an edge...

E.L.. Shapiro Loc: Ottawa, Ontario Canada

I don't understand what the big mystery is all about.

The OP was shooting and something seemed to be wrong with his camera- the focusing screen became dislodged. He probably attempted to put it back in place but then realized there might be some damage or issue so he changed camera bodies. That is the prudent action to take- I would have done exactly the same thing.

My experience with interchangeable screens goes back a long time- way back to the large and medium format film days, I changed up many of my original ground glass screens with various bright screens, products such as Beedie Intinterscreen, Acuumat, etc. I had several screens for my Nikon F gear with various micro prism and split-image center spot features to facilitate faster and easier manual focusing. Some had grids that assisted with levelling, perspective, and compositional applications.

I am no camera engineer or plastics and optical expert but I do know some of those screens and "field lenses" are made of lenticular-like plastics and some rather strange surfaces which are difficult to impossible to clean, so finger marks and smudges can permanently impair their functionality. Therefore, if you dirty them up you have to replace them- no big deal! Also, if anything or a part fell into my camera I would want to make certain the mirror, sensor, or other vital parts were not colatterally damaged or a loose screw, spring, or rivet was not floating around in the mechanism. If I am out on a shoot and my camera does not sound right or smell right, I switch to a spare. It's a good practice. Sometimes it's nothing and other times it is off to the repair shop with a camera that would have seriously malfunctioned with continued use.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

Longshadow wrote:

I was......

Just because you've been there gave you an edge...

I've changed focusing screens a large number of times on different EOS cameras including the 5D Mark II. I have used all three focus screen types Canon offers in addition to the no longer available Katz-Eye split focus screens designed specifically for manual focusing. It is a little tricky and a delicate process to insert a focus screen. They are inexpensive and once contaminated in any way they should be replaced. Those whose hands shake, even a bit, should not attempt it. I have no idea why the OP's focus screen fell out of its retaining bracket. That never happened to me. If it is not clipped in and centered properly it will be very noticeable when you try to use it.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

E.L.. Shapiro wrote:

I don't understand what the big mystery is all abo... (show quote)

Absolutely agree!

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

CHG_CANON wrote:

Please!
Please!!

Please take you stinky hairy foot off my chest, your crushing me and my ego ....

My god, how old are you?

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

mwsilvers wrote:

My god, how old are you?

With your superpower, why do you need to ask?