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Nov 26, 2021 19:34:54   #
wide2tele Loc: Australia
 
But aren't group 1 the professionals???

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Nov 26, 2021 19:36:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Najataagihe wrote:
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I found out, decades ago, that most folks who use cameras do not seek improvement or proficiency, but ego gratification.

Yup.

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Nov 26, 2021 19:36:17   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Your camera is only as good as you can use it.

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Nov 26, 2021 19:38:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
wide2tele wrote:
But aren't group 1 the professionals???

The ones that think they are.

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Nov 26, 2021 19:42:14   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Professional photographers know the secret is a full-frame camera.

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Nov 26, 2021 19:45:47   #
wide2tele Loc: Australia
 
Longshadow wrote:
The ones that think they are.


I've had 4 tripods that I thought were excellent for years.
I came here and learned my tripods and heads are all poo poo. Now I'll have to go out and buy new tripods and heads. I guess if it'll make me a better photographer...new tripods it must be.
It doesn't end there, I have to get some new cameras too! The ones I have are no good either.
But the only good cameras are mirrorless and to get good pictures, you need mirrorless lenses so all my old lenses will have to go.

So glad I know all this now so I can go out and buy all the stuff I need to take better pics!

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Nov 26, 2021 19:48:23   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
wide2tele wrote:
I've had 4 tripods that I thought were excellent for years.
I came here and learned my tripods and heads are all poo poo. Now I'll have to go out and buy new tripods and heads. I guess if it'll make me a better photographer...new tripods it must be.
It doesn't end there, I have to get some new cameras too! The ones I have are no good either.
But the only good cameras are mirrorless and to get good pictures, you need mirrorless lenses so all my old lenses will have to go.

So glad I know all this now so I can go out and buy all the stuff I need to take better pics!
I've had 4 tripods that I thought were excellent f... (show quote)


The longer you read UHH, the more expensive it gets.

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Nov 26, 2021 20:08:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
wide2tele wrote:
I've had 4 tripods that I thought were excellent for years.
I came here and learned my tripods and heads are all poo poo. Now I'll have to go out and buy new tripods and heads. I guess if it'll make me a better photographer...new tripods it must be.
It doesn't end there, I have to get some new cameras too! The ones I have are no good either.
But the only good cameras are mirrorless and to get good pictures, you need mirrorless lenses so all my old lenses will have to go.

So glad I know all this now so I can go out and buy all the stuff I need to take better pics!
I've had 4 tripods that I thought were excellent f... (show quote)


Heh heh...
I have a tripod, it has a 3-way head, yea, some company made it.
I think Manfroto made the head (3 year old addition).
I use it, it works.

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Nov 26, 2021 20:09:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The longer you read UHH, the more expensive it gets.

For some.....

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Nov 26, 2021 20:13:26   #
BebuLamar
 
wide2tele wrote:
But aren't group 1 the professionals???


I don't know but I am in group 1 and I am definitely not the professional.

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Nov 26, 2021 20:57:29   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
I'll spin this one back to the extent that equipment can influence outcomes, and I do like fine equipment of any kind. What is important to me, and it was effective with people who reported to me in business, and those I taught Martial Arts is the learning model. It is called the four stages of learning. It is my entire path in any serious area of interest.
http://thepeakperformancecenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Stages-of-Learning1.bmp
When I can regularly take photos I am proud of without thinking about the gritty details of how I got the job done (Equipment, settings, etc. etc.) I will have arrived. Once in a while I get lucky. Unconscious Competence is not common, but observed on occasion. In the Martial Arts, "A mind like Water, a mind like the moon". Seen regularly in high level performers.

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Nov 26, 2021 22:01:15   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
I go back and forth between the the groups; but you never have enough toys

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Nov 26, 2021 22:31:54   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
One of my favorite sayings is: :Beware of an old person who owns only one gun, chances are he knows how to use it". Same applies to someone who owns only one camera.

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Nov 26, 2021 22:37:46   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
One of my favorite sayings is: :Beware of an old person who owns only one gun, chances are he knows how to use it". Same applies to someone who owns only one camera.


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Nov 26, 2021 22:52:31   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
In Re: That, another aphorism "One is none, two is one."

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