F***i funds torture of dogs and monkeys, now he wants to inject your kids.
It's not just random reactions. Some people take "exotic" medications and have to be extremely careful about any other medications they ingest including vitamin supplements and simple over the counter stuff such as a simple aspirin.
Some people with Cerebral Palsy can't get a simple flu shot let alone the v*****e. What should they do?
Wuligal wrote:
Point out just one lie....just one.....in my last post.
So far you have called me a liar (twice) wished me to be a victim of a F***i experiment and addressed me as a child.
Sure sounds a lot like a bully hard at work to me. Name calling, demeaning comments and trying to intimidate others with threats of pain and torture. Congratulations, you're very good at what you do and who you are.
Calling F***i names after a N**i is one. Trying to say you have been intimidated with “pain and torture” is another.
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
cwp3420 wrote:
Nope. I’m saying that many people have been either medically injured or have died from the v*****e.
Would you care to stack up the numbers? How many have been medically injured or died from the v*****e vs the number who have been medically injured or died from C***D?
mikee wrote:
Do you know how pharmaceutical RESEARCH is done? Yup, trials with sub-human mammals.
We just went through an experiment with an orange sub-human mammal in charge. We almost lost America to Steve Bannon's chimp.
mjmoore17 wrote:
Calling F***i names after a N**i is one. Trying to say you have been intimidated with “pain and torture” is another.
Pay attention....I said, and I quote, "THREATS of pain and torture". Big difference between a threat and pretending I said I was actually "intimidated with pain and torture". The former is a threat of an action, the latter implies the actual use of pain and torture.
A bully is a bully is a bully and one must be very careful around them because they will twist every word to accommodate themselves.
Wuligal wrote:
Pay attention....I said, and I quote, "THREATS of pain and torture". Big difference between a threat and pretending I said I was actually "intimidated with pain and torture". The former is a threat of an action, the latter implies the actual use of pain and torture.
A bully is a bully is a bully and one must be very careful around them because they will twist every word to accommodate themselves.
Why do you argue with impaired?
letmedance wrote:
Why do you argue with impaired?
I'm not arguing with anyone......simply stating my case. Besides, I refuse to have an intellectual battle with an unarmed man.
Answer: One cannot know.
We can know, however, that the odds of an individual having a serious reaction to the v***s remain so low that we should worry more about being struck by lightning than about having a reaction to the v*****e.
cwp3420 wrote:
So how is one to know if it’s your turn to have a reaction? That’s why so many people don’t want the v*****e. Why is that so difficult for you left wingers to understand?
JohnFrim wrote:
So what you are saying is that because the v*****e MIGHT be dangerous for some then NO ONE should take it???
NOT AT ALL!My comment was a response to: cwp3420 and his comment: “The v*****e has not been proven safe and effective for everyone . . .”.
To which I stated that “NO v*****e has been ‘proven safe and effective for everyone’”, and that he darn well knew that! And was just spreading regurgitated disinformation.
I am saying that, although there HAVE been adverse reactions to the C***d v*****es, the incidence of bad or poor reactions is NO HIGHER THAN THAT OF OTHER V*****ES. From what I understand, that is hovering around 0.04%. And those are recorded Deaths. What does that mean? Well, that would be (per 100,000): 100000/x=100/0.04. Which comes out to 40. Thats right, forty out of 100,000. If extrapolated to a population of three hundred million, that would be 1200 people. STILL a very small number!
Even if there are non-fatal reactions that raise the percentage-affected to 1 in 300 000, I would “play that Lotto”.
So what is your assessment of personal risk? Are the odds of 1200 in 300 000 000 (or 12 in 3 000 000) personally acceptable? To me they are.
I recommend everyone to get some sort of protection-by-v******tion to contain or stop the horrible effects of the SARS CoV-2 v***s.
I also urge everyone to learn HOW v*****es work, how the body reacts and creates T-cells and how they recognize (by “training”—i.e. inoculation) and the antibody-response to potential infections.
JohnFrim
Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
Wyantry wrote:
NOT AT ALL!
My comment was a response to: cwp3420 and his comment: “The v*****e has not been proven safe and effective for everyone . . .”.
To which I stated that “NO v*****e has been ‘proven safe and effective for everyone’”, and that he darn well knew that! And was just spreading regurgitated disinformation.
I am saying that, although there HAVE been adverse reactions to the C***d v*****es, the incidence of bad or poor reactions is NO HIGHER THAN THAT OF OTHER V*****ES. From what I understand, that is hovering around 0.04%. And those are recorded Deaths. What does that mean? Well, that would be (per 100,000): 100000/x=100/0.04. Which comes out to 40. Thats right, forty out of 100,000. If extrapolated to a population of three hundred million, that would be 1200 people. STILL a very small number!
Even if there are non-fatal reactions that raise the percentage-affected to 1 in 300 000, I would “play that Lotto”.
So what is your assessment of personal risk? Are the odds of 1200 in 300 000 000 (or 12 in 3 000 000) personally acceptable? To me they are.
I recommend everyone to get some sort of protection-by-v******tion to contain or stop the horrible effects of the SARS CoV-2 v***s.
I also urge everyone to learn HOW v*****es work, how the body reacts and creates T-cells and how they recognize (by “training”—i.e. inoculation) and the antibody-response to potential infections.
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Sorry about a misunderstanding. You rephrased cwp3420's comment, and it was actually his comment -- that you expressed more emphatically -- that I was arguing against. I should have gone back to his original statement. I did argue with another of his statements on page 2 and page 3.
But just in case some folks might have interpreted your post as being against the v*****e, thanks for clarifying your stance. I am 100% with you on this issue, and you have provided some excellent information on how v*****es work in another thread.
Talk about an evil person.
Makes Vick look like he was a gentile dog lover.
Architect1776 wrote:
Talk about an evil person.
Makes Vick look like he was a gentile dog lover.
So you admit that you know nothing about how medical research is done. Not surprised, you just use but never think to know how it was developed.
Thanks for rational breakdown of this matter.
Wyantry wrote:
NOT AT ALL!
My comment was a response to: cwp3420 and his comment: “The v*****e has not been proven safe and effective for everyone . . .”.
To which I stated that “NO v*****e has been ‘proven safe and effective for everyone’”, and that he darn well knew that! And was just spreading regurgitated disinformation.
I am saying that, although there HAVE been adverse reactions to the C***d v*****es, the incidence of bad or poor reactions is NO HIGHER THAN THAT OF OTHER V*****ES. From what I understand, that is hovering around 0.04%. And those are recorded Deaths. What does that mean? Well, that would be (per 100,000): 100000/x=100/0.04. Which comes out to 40. Thats right, forty out of 100,000. If extrapolated to a population of three hundred million, that would be 1200 people. STILL a very small number!
Even if there are non-fatal reactions that raise the percentage-affected to 1 in 300 000, I would “play that Lotto”.
So what is your assessment of personal risk? Are the odds of 1200 in 300 000 000 (or 12 in 3 000 000) personally acceptable? To me they are.
I recommend everyone to get some sort of protection-by-v******tion to contain or stop the horrible effects of the SARS CoV-2 v***s.
I also urge everyone to learn HOW v*****es work, how the body reacts and creates T-cells and how they recognize (by “training”—i.e. inoculation) and the antibody-response to potential infections.
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