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Oct 17, 2021 09:27:59   #
ronichas Loc: Long Island
 
I used to use ProShow Producer until they shutdown.
Someone suggested AShampoo. I love it. I just did 2 multi-media slide shows for a local Travel Club.
I just uploaded my Iceland presentation to my youtube channel. It is about 12 minutes long and is in order
of the 3 times I was there.

It was interesting to see the changes in the country over 8 years. The one that bothered me the most is seeing how the glaciers have melted.

Comments welcome.

https://youtu.be/Adjc3D8HRhs

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Oct 17, 2021 09:56:05   #
BigOldArt Loc: Seminole, FL
 
Good point.

What is the difference in observer experience between (a) a slide show with varied durations of stills and (b) a video with varied durations of stills? By stills I mean photos or text slides.

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Oct 17, 2021 10:55:08   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
BigOldArt wrote:
Good point.

What is the difference in observer experience between (a) a slide show with varied durations of stills and (b) a video with varied durations of stills? By stills I mean photos or text slides.


Easy one. Video is fluid, better for displaying functions, interviews, and events. Stills are better to emphasize moments or products or symbols or emotions. Hybrids of stills and video work best for commercials and documentaries.

I created multi-image slide shows in the 1980s. We typically used a 27' screen divided into three screen areas, with 3 projectors aimed at the left side, 6 aimed at the center, and 3 aimed at the right side. That gave us the ability to do mild animation. The show content was typically corporate sales meeting theme openers, training workshop theme openers, and closing shows that wrapped up those 2-4 day meetings. We also used our system for training content delivery within workshops. A typical show used 720 to 960 slides, lasted about 12 to 18 minutes, and took around six weeks to produce from conception to screen. We were making points about our company, our products, our people, and our services. Streams of still images worked well for that. Because video was very expensive and not very good back then, we used multi-image for its high resolution images, high fidelity sound track, and immersive experience.

Watch any good Ken Burns series on PBS and you get the best of both stills and filmic video media. Ken and his teams mix panning and zooming of old still photos with video interviews, overdubbed narratives, musical "glue," sound effects, and subtitles to create immersive and entertaining learning experiences. Any of his stories can be told in text, as an audio book, or as a "slide" show. But the way he's doing them, they are almost irresistible if you're interested in the subject matter *at all.*

For instance, I HATE country music after spending two years as a country radio announcer (In real life, I'm a rock-and-roll, jazz, classical, blues, folk, percussion, and experimental noise fan). But I was riveted to Burns' series on country music because of the way he approached the story. I watched the entire series twice! Like all his series, it was masterful.

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Oct 17, 2021 11:04:53   #
srt101fan
 
burkphoto wrote:
Easy one. Video is fluid, better for displaying functions, interviews, and events. Stills are better to emphasize moments or products or symbols or emotions. Hybrids of stills and video work best for commercials and documentaries.

I created multi-image slide shows in the 1980s. We typically used a 27' screen divided into three screen areas, with 3 projectors aimed at the left side, 6 aimed at the center, and 3 aimed at the right side. That gave us the ability to do mild animation. The show content was typically corporate sales meeting theme openers, training workshop theme openers, and closing shows that wrapped up those 2-4 day meetings. We also used our system for training content delivery within workshops. A typical show used 720 to 960 slides, lasted about 12 to 18 minutes, and took around six weeks to produce from conception to screen. We were making points about our company, our products, our people, and our services. Streams of still images worked well for that. Because video was very expensive and not very good back then, we used multi-image for its high resolution images, high fidelity sound track, and immersive experience.

Watch any good Ken Burns series on PBS and you get the best of both stills and filmic video media. Ken and his teams mix panning and zooming of old still photos with video interviews, overdubbed narratives, musical "glue," sound effects, and subtitles to create immersive and entertaining learning experiences. Any of his stories can be told in text, as an audio book, or as a "slide" show. But the way he's doing them, they are almost irresistible if you're interested in the subject matter *at all.*

For instance, I HATE country music after spending two years as a country radio announcer (In real life, I'm a rock-and-roll, jazz, classical, blues, folk, percussion, and experimental noise fan). But I was riveted to Burns' series on country music because of the way he approached the story. I watched the entire series twice! Like all his series, it was masterful.
Easy one. Video is fluid, better for displaying fu... (show quote)


Bill, you may have misunderstood the poster you were responding to. I think he was referring to a video made up entirely of still photos. But maybe I'm off-base here....🤔

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Oct 17, 2021 11:17:23   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
srt101fan wrote:
Bill, you may have misunderstood the poster you were responding to. I think he was referring to a video made up entirely of still photos. But maybe I'm off-base here....🤔


I understood that. My point is that with video editing software you have mixed media options you might not have with simple slide show software.

For those of us who create many different kinds of content, a video editor is an essential tool. Others include Microsoft 365 (formerly Office), still image editors such as Lightroom Classic and Photoshop, an audio editor such as Logic Pro or Pro Tools (or Audacity or GarageBand), and a wide array of other tools for Mac or Windows, whichever your poison.

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Oct 17, 2021 11:58:35   #
sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD
 
srt101fan wrote:
Bill, you may have misunderstood the poster you were responding to. I think he was referring to a video made up entirely of still photos. But maybe I'm off-base here....🤔


Simple answer
'you can"

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Oct 17, 2021 12:28:50   #
srt101fan
 
burkphoto wrote:
I understood that. My point is that with video editing software you have mixed media options you might not have with simple slide show software.

For those of us who create many different kinds of content, a video editor is an essential tool. Others include Microsoft 365 (formerly Office), still image editors such as Lightroom Classic and Photoshop, an audio editor such as Logic Pro or Pro Tools (or Audacity or GarageBand), and a wide array of other tools for Mac or Windows, whichever your poison.
I understood that. My point is that with video edi... (show quote)



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Oct 18, 2021 09:11:41   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
avery48 wrote:
I know we've talked about this before, but I could use some updated assistance in photo slideshows. I had Proshow Gold and loved it. As you know, it has been discontinued. I started having problems with it and eventually uninstalled it. I've tried Photostage, and I've discovered that when I download my images, they show up with an ugly blue-green grade to them. I tried editing each image separately but found it both tedious and inadequate to restoring the images as they were originally. I've sent a message to tech support and am still awaiting an answer as to how to correct this.

So...what photo software programs are you using? I'd prefer something I can add music to. What do you recommend...or not recommend? I'd also prefer something I don't have to subscribe to, if possible. (Photopia was supposed to be PSG's replacement...but I'm not keen on spending $25 a month to use it.) I'm willing to buy a license, as I use these slideshows commercially.

Thanks for whatever help you can provide.
I know we've talked about this before, but I could... (show quote)


I use an original iPad. Since the apps being written today will not work on this device I can only use it for what it can do. And it can show photographs 24/7/365. It has been working as such for several years. My iPad II is a permanent analogue clock, the background turns black at 6:00pm and white at 6:00am, all for 24/7/365! Music can be added to both applications.

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Oct 18, 2021 09:14:29   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 
ronichas wrote:
I used to use ProShow Producer until they shutdown.
Someone suggested AShampoo. I love it. I just did 2 multi-media slide shows for a local Travel Club.
I just uploaded my Iceland presentation to my youtube channel. It is about 12 minutes long and is in order
of the 3 times I was there.

It was interesting to see the changes in the country over 8 years. The one that bothered me the most is seeing how the glaciers have melted.

Comments welcome.

https://youtu.be/Adjc3D8HRhs
I used to use ProShow Producer until they shutdown... (show quote)


Beautiful photography!
I note a limited use of transition styles. Are more available?

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Oct 18, 2021 09:27:06   #
bobbydvideo
 
I still use ProShow Producer and Movavi Slideshow Maker 7

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Oct 18, 2021 10:34:06   #
ronichas Loc: Long Island
 
raymondh wrote:
Beautiful photography!
I note a limited use of transition styles. Are more available?


Yes, there are many to choose. I have found, after doing many slide shows, that it is too distracting from the images.

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Oct 18, 2021 11:08:49   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
ronichas wrote:
Yes, there are many to choose. I have found, after doing many slide shows, that it is too distracting from the images.


Slide to slide transitions are best kept subtle. If every transition is different, the viewer becomes distracted from the content. Simple cuts and dissolves are most effective.

I once watched a ten minute show at a sales meeting. It was done in one of the ProShow packages. I can't remember anything about the images in it, except that the music was frenetic and every transition seemed to be different from every other one. It was jarring.

I love loud, hard rock as much as I love classical and jazz, and I love fast-paced image streams as well as slow ones. But I want to see the images, and see/hear a relationship between the musical measure and the image transitions!

When music, narration, images, and production technique are not "tuned" to one another, the result is ineffective.

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Oct 18, 2021 11:49:34   #
Rodwil
 
I just was tasked making a slideshow for a memorial service. She wanted over 300 pictures (fortunately she didn’t want music). I was having trouble with Elements, so I bought Ashampoo HD4 and it worked beautifully. Slideshow was around 30 minutes.

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