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Oct 12, 2021 08:45:02   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
A hard reset is always the first choice. Turn it off and unplug it for a few, then plug it back in and turn it on. Makes the printer think it’s fresh out of the box. I don’t know why unplugging it helps but that’s what I’ve read.

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Oct 12, 2021 09:07:40   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
Seven years is sort of the break point for a new computer and printer. If either gives me trouble before then I get rid of them. It’s tough trying to find the problem over the phone.

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Oct 12, 2021 09:13:58   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"... the tech was very wrong..." Really? Do you realize that some of the "Things" the support tech advised you to do may have actually resolved the issue? Having worked as a Support Software Technician for a major accounting application used by DOE I've seen/heard it all Steven... Government employees can at times seem to believe that it is the Support Tech's fault that they didn't read the documentation or follow appropriate procedures.

Before you slam a group of hard working Tech's walk a mile in their shoes...

The Tech told you to bring the the printer in to repair... Since you refused and decided to go for the alternative of replacing it (you choice not the Tech's choice) you're pissed because of replacement costs (which are totally out of the Tech's hands).

btw, why didn't you recycle *power off/on* the printer in the first place before calling "Support"?

FYI: Support Tech's are under huge pressure to "Turn" the support call as quickly as practical especially when the queue gets long... Way too many factors in the mix here....

Besides how much were you charged for the support call Steven? Yep End User's want everything for free...
The design life of your Epson 3880? Think about this Steven...

All the best on your journey Steven...
"... the tech was very wrong..." Really?... (show quote)


Thomas, you were obviously a well qualified, diligent technician. Not all are. I am not slamming an entire group. I am saying that, like in any profession, not all technicians are as competent as others. Not all will go the extra mile.

What makes you think I didn’t turn the printer on and off prior to calling tech support? Of course I did. I am not very tech savvy, but I did try everything within my limited ability prior to calling.

The tech told me to take the printer in for repair OR purchase a new one. In fact, she was quite eager to connect me to sales and offer me a 10% discount if I purchased from Epson. I understand that as a former tech person you are eager to defend the profession. However, you have quickly jumped to several inaccurate conclusions. I think we need to be objective regarding both the technicians and the people calling tech support.

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Oct 12, 2021 09:16:28   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Bayou wrote:
"Hello, tech support. Have you tried turning it off and back on again?"


Yes, I did.

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Oct 12, 2021 09:17:17   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
gvarner wrote:
A hard reset is always the first choice. Turn it off and unplug it for a few, then plug it back in and turn it on. Makes the printer think it’s fresh out of the box. I don’t know why unplugging it helps but that’s what I’ve read.


I did try that prior to calling.

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Oct 12, 2021 09:18:45   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
StevenG wrote:
My 7 year old Epson 3880 suddenly started doing some weird things, giving me all sorts of messages and wouldn’t print. After about an hour on the phone and after trying all sorts of things, the tech support person told me it was a hardware problem and that I needed to bring it in for repair or purchase a new printer. After checking out the prices of Epson and Canon, I saw that the latest models of equivalent size are about $1,100-1,200. And, I figured a repair would probably cost more than the printer is worth at this point. (At least, that is in dollar value. As long as it works, it does a great job and is priceless to me.). So I decided to give it another go. Turned it off, then on, double checked all settings and pressed print, and lo and behold, it worked! I printed several photos, all came out beautifully. This may or may not continue to work properly. But the point is, at least for now, the tech was very wrong. Be cautious of tech support!
My 7 year old Epson 3880 suddenly started doing so... (show quote)

Same story for me and my Canon BUT it still fails intermittently.
The new one arrives today…

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Oct 12, 2021 09:18:45   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
leftj wrote:
Always try a re-boot. Many times that's all that's required.


I did.

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Oct 12, 2021 09:19:53   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Toment wrote:
Same story for me and my Canon BUT it still fails intermittently.
The new one arrives today…


Good luck with the new printer!

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Oct 12, 2021 09:20:49   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rmalarz wrote:
Unfortunately, tech support is in the difficult position of trying to diagnose something from a distance. There is a lot to be said for sitting in front of the equipment being diagnosed. Additionally, and not necessarily directed at you personally, tech support has to rely on an accurate description provided by someone who may not be technically savvy. That adds to the difficulty of trying to accurately diagnose the issue.

In some cases with computers and related equipment, doing a hard re-boot solves a good deal of the issues.
--Bob
Unfortunately, tech support is in the difficult po... (show quote)


Nailed it.

I have some funny stories about tech support. Unfortunately, most of them resulted in embarrassing **user education.**

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Oct 12, 2021 16:06:37   #
Bayou
 
StevenG wrote:
Yes, I did.


Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that you hadn't. I was taking the opportunity to quote a bit from a very funny show named "The IT Crowd", the quote from a tape recording that the tech support guys had made that played on the phone whenever someone called for tech help.

Highly recommended, very funny show, on Amazon IIRC.

https://youtu.be/rksCTVFtjM4

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Oct 12, 2021 16:47:26   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Bayou wrote:
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that you hadn't. I was taking the opportunity to quote a bit from a very funny show named "The IT Crowd", the quote from a tape recording that the tech support guys had made that played on the phone whenever someone called for tech help.

Highly recommended, very funny show, on Amazon IIRC.

https://youtu.be/rksCTVFtjM4


No problem. I’ll check it out.

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Oct 12, 2021 17:11:46   #
Bayou
 
Bayou wrote:
...."The IT Crowd"....very funny show, on Amazon IIRC....


Oops, it's on Netflix.

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Oct 12, 2021 17:13:57   #
StevenG Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Bayou wrote:
Oops, it's on Netflix.


Thanks. I found it.

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Oct 13, 2021 05:20:08   #
Douglas Tharp Loc: Texas
 
Tech support is a hard job. The best thing to do is ask for a remote session. That way the tech can drive and go through the questions they are going to ask you.

Another comment, most companies are going to email support only. Watch out!

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Oct 13, 2021 05:45:58   #
alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand
 
Longshadow wrote:
It's very hard do diagnose stuff over the phone........
It depends largely on the detail of the questions asked and answers given.




Years ago I was network administrator for our department.
My favorite "problem" was "I can't get into dBase.".
Then we started playing 20 questions to see what transpired on their screen when they did what.




"Can't get into dBase" wow that's going back. Cheers.

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