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Oct 21, 2012 16:06:08   #
DK Loc: SD
 
I have 3. One is a film camera which I haven't used for several years and it still has film in it. Gotta finish that some day! I hope it's not Kodachrome. Need a backup in case something screws up, that is why I have 2 digitals. Also nice to have different focal length lenses so I can grab whichever lens length I need. Also usually have the SX40HS along too.

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Oct 21, 2012 19:29:14   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I asked a week ago about how many of you have twin (or close to it) DSLRs. New question. How many of you get by just fine with one DSLR?


Now that I'm retired. One is enough. I still crave the newest thang!

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Oct 22, 2012 00:30:40   #
bill morgan
 
I have two nikon D300. One is always ready for underwater and the other topside.

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Oct 22, 2012 05:13:54   #
Michael O' Loc: Midwest right now
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I asked a week ago about how many of you have twin (or close to it) DSLRs. New question. How many of you get by just fine with one DSLR?


A single EOS 5D Mark II does me fine. I used to use 2 EOS-3 bodies with a 70-200 and a 600 mounted on them, with each lens mounted on a round 18 inch long bar topping a monopod, which I used to shoot the Chicago Fire in Soldier Field from the corner of the field while sitting on my wheeled equip. box. Could cover both goals from the corner at the photographers' line, and everything in between. Haven't shot soccer for a while so don't need the pair of (matching) bodies any longer. Shooting "street", landscape, architecture, and natural light outdoor portraits, all I need to worry about and hassle with is which lenses to take. Strange tho, but my old Rollies were the best for portraits and especially for street shooting because they were so unobtrusive -- and
so everybody was natural and didn't notice having a lens pointed at them.
Michael O' soccermick33@yahoo.com

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Oct 22, 2012 05:31:49   #
rts2568
 
Rob O' wrote:
This question is pretty interesting because before today, I've always carried one DSLR with me. But my wife and I took a day trip to a state park and I took my DSLR with a 70-400, and slipped a Sony NEX-3 in my vest pocket with an 18-55 on it. It was GREAT! Not having to switch lenses and still getting telephoto and wide angle shots meant one of the most enjoyable outings in a long time.


Rob O' wrote:
This question is pretty interesting because before today, I've always carried one DSLR with me. But my wife and I took a day trip to a state park and I took my DSLR with a 70-400, and slipped a Sony NEX-3 in my vest pocket with an 18-55 on it. It was GREAT! Not having to switch lenses and still getting telephoto and wide angle shots meant one of the most enjoyable outings in a long time.


To Rob O'
From rts2568

Hi there Rob O', my returning these two of yours are because they are, an excellent example of why a second body, or these days in particular, a pocketable goes along for the ride. Thanks for that explanation, many will appreciate that

Not sure what the point of this thread’s exercise is however,
with this question (Single or Multiple Cameras), I've had no reply from the OP: ‘Jerryc41’, to my question of “Why do you ask?”. Perhaps ‘Jerryc41’ has slung his D7000 & D800, shouldered his tripod and gone teepeeing in the hills around NY? Leaving us to get on with it perhaps, what ever ‘it’ is, or even go figure out why he’d asked in the first place? No matter, it has turned up some interesting replies. I’m going to digress a little though, sorry folks.

Anyway, relating to your two lovely shots, they also fit into another thread I was reading the other day, something like: “when do you start editing?” A very important question, for both old and for new, aspiring photographers! Several different types of replies have made this thread rather interesting and drawn from you, two excellent shots. My answer to the other OP (sorry, but I haven’t refound you yet) being that we all, should start editing before the shot is taken, though I have to admit, I’m uneasy about using the word ‘editing’ but haven’t been able to come up with an alternative that is sufficiently all encompassing. I’ve attached your two shots with modifications, I do hope you don’t mind me using your shots, but they really are perfect for the examples to you and others about composition while fitting into the other enquirer’s question as well. If I can find that other thread I’ll write to the OP and suggest they take a peek here. I’m still not proficient with finding old threads, questions or what-have-you, if they don’t pop up for me from other feedback.

Now, the rock, like so many similar kinds of photogenic image, lends itself to an illustration of “why pre edit”? You’ve done a grand job with both shots so don’t imagine I’m unduly criticizing, I’m not, it’s just that I’ve come across this question so often before and know that others will gain something from looking at your images. You will note a very slight modification in the one I have attached, trying to illustrate how, if the photographer gets into the habit of thinking about the composition (pre-editing) a little more, before they press the shutter; really different image can emerge after very little changed in position before taking the photograph. In this instance I’ve tried to show, by giving this contrast, that by moving a little and picking a composition, or take two or three shots at the time to reflect over when the photographer gets home; this can lead to differing view points that help to make that photo of yours stand out. In particular, with this rock and path, by bending down, perhaps kneeling, or standing on something (if it’s available) to get a higher viewpoint, can make a noticeable difference. Sometimes those little movements, even a step left or right, can make the difference that distinguishes a great and very appealing image to one that is touristy, run of the mill. Hence, pre-editing helps to make or break an image. In this shot I have also removed the handrail in the foreground as it was a slight distraction and served no purpose in the photo – you of course may think differently, so be it, just remember these are just subjective observations to possibly interest others.

Never forgetting here, the “over stated rule of thirds” which for many budding photographers is still a mystery. Sometimes to be ignored of course, but knowing when it should be, by a decision making process before the shutter is pressed, is so very important to the end results’ viewable aesthetics. The more you do beforehand, the less you will need to do afterwards and where PP cropping becomes a necessity, then higher resolution will result when you get the composition correct, in your mind, before you shoot.

Now, the bee image, is it a Bumble Bee or some such? What a whopper! I wouldn’t want to be stung by that monster, that’s for sure. Anyway, the Post Processing (PP – as often abbreviated), is a good example to the other OP to show that post processing is also part of the photo editing process, sometimes you just can’t get in close enough. I’m assuming here because there is no EXIF information supplied that you took this at full zoom – sorry if you didn’t, the point however was to show that once again, pre-editing while important, may still require follow ups after the shoot. Most realize the latter of course, but few consider just how important is the pre-viewing, composition, positioning, DOF consideration and etc, etc. I’m hopeful that your two shots will stimulate a thought or two, leading to more thinking before the shot is taken, about what needs to be done first and for them to look also into the future, to understand what might have to be done later on.

Of course, I shouldn’t have to emphasize here, that the above applies to both film and digital photography. If only more would submit their classic ‘walk in the hills’ on a sunny afternoon like you have; there must be loads of images that would be examples to us all.

Thanks Rob O', your two photos are much admired and appreciated.

More folks, more please?

rts2568

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Oct 22, 2012 06:25:33   #
oldmalky Loc: West Midlands,England.
 
I only ever take out one camera an a57 which i bought as an upgrade from my a200 which i still have,so why would i take out an inferior camera when i have a better one and that includes P&S etc etc.If I were a professional then things could well be different but im not and if I miss one shot so what? there will be millions more.

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Oct 22, 2012 07:11:22   #
Crwiwy Loc: Devon UK
 
I use a Canon EOS 300D with the basic 18~55mm lens but also take my old Olympus Camidia C720 bridging camera with its 12X ultrazoom which gives me up to 1200mm effective lens with the electronic zoom. There are times when the ultrazoom is very useful and I can capture pictures I would never get with the Canon.

Ding Dong Mine at 1200mm effective focal length
Ding Dong Mine at 1200mm effective focal length...

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Oct 22, 2012 08:19:20   #
rts2568
 
Crwiwy wrote:
I use a Canon EOS 300D with the basic 18~55mm lens but also take my old Olympus Camidia C720 bridging camera with its 12X ultrazoom which gives me up to 1200mm effective lens with the electronic zoom. There are times when the ultrazoom is very useful and I can capture pictures I would never get with the Canon.



To Crwiwy
From rts2568

You have highlighted a very pertenant point Crwiwy, capturing a memorable moment in a photographic image is the primary reason most people take photographs in the first place, some try for perfection, technical perfection, others just for the purpose of a memory bank. Some will use more than one and can, like you have, justified their choice.
If you're able, a little TLC PP will do wonders for this photo you sent in and you will then display it with even more pride in your album/s. Happy memories and photograph with confidence.

rts2568

Mine Vent Tower
Mine Vent Tower...

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Oct 22, 2012 10:27:41   #
madcapmagishion
 
Crwiwy wrote:
I use a Canon EOS 300D with the basic 18~55mm lens but also take my old Olympus Camidia C720 bridging camera with its 12X ultrazoom which gives me up to 1200mm effective lens with the electronic zoom. There are times when the ultrazoom is very useful and I can capture pictures I would never get with the Canon.


To make your point more effective, I wish you had included the same shot with the Canon and its 18-55mm lens also!

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Oct 22, 2012 22:10:14   #
Rob O' Loc: Freakin' Hot Arizona
 
rts2568 wrote:
Rob O' wrote:
This question is pretty interesting because before today, I've always carried one DSLR with me. But my wife and I took a day trip to a state park and I took my DSLR with a 70-400, and slipped a Sony NEX-3 in my vest pocket with an 18-55 on it. It was GREAT! Not having to switch lenses and still getting telephoto and wide angle shots meant one of the most enjoyable outings in a long time.


Rob O' wrote:
This question is pretty interesting because before today, I've always carried one DSLR with me. But my wife and I took a day trip to a state park and I took my DSLR with a 70-400, and slipped a Sony NEX-3 in my vest pocket with an 18-55 on it. It was GREAT! Not having to switch lenses and still getting telephoto and wide angle shots meant one of the most enjoyable outings in a long time.


To Rob O'
From rts2568

Hi there Rob O', my returning these two of yours are because they are, an excellent example of why a second body, or these days in particular, a pocketable goes along for the ride. Thanks for that explanation, many will appreciate that

Not sure what the point of this thread’s exercise is however,
with this question (Single or Multiple Cameras), I've had no reply from the OP: ‘Jerryc41’, to my question of “Why do you ask?”. Perhaps ‘Jerryc41’ has slung his D7000 & D800, shouldered his tripod and gone teepeeing in the hills around NY? Leaving us to get on with it perhaps, what ever ‘it’ is, or even go figure out why he’d asked in the first place? No matter, it has turned up some interesting replies. I’m going to digress a little though, sorry folks.

Anyway, relating to your two lovely shots, they also fit into another thread I was reading the other day, something like: “when do you start editing?” A very important question, for both old and for new, aspiring photographers! Several different types of replies have made this thread rather interesting and drawn from you, two excellent shots. My answer to the other OP (sorry, but I haven’t refound you yet) being that we all, should start editing before the shot is taken, though I have to admit, I’m uneasy about using the word ‘editing’ but haven’t been able to come up with an alternative that is sufficiently all encompassing. I’ve attached your two shots with modifications, I do hope you don’t mind me using your shots, but they really are perfect for the examples to you and others about composition while fitting into the other enquirer’s question as well. If I can find that other thread I’ll write to the OP and suggest they take a peek here. I’m still not proficient with finding old threads, questions or what-have-you, if they don’t pop up for me from other feedback.

Now, the rock, like so many similar kinds of photogenic image, lends itself to an illustration of “why pre edit”? You’ve done a grand job with both shots so don’t imagine I’m unduly criticizing, I’m not, it’s just that I’ve come across this question so often before and know that others will gain something from looking at your images. You will note a very slight modification in the one I have attached, trying to illustrate how, if the photographer gets into the habit of thinking about the composition (pre-editing) a little more, before they press the shutter; really different image can emerge after very little changed in position before taking the photograph. In this instance I’ve tried to show, by giving this contrast, that by moving a little and picking a composition, or take two or three shots at the time to reflect over when the photographer gets home; this can lead to differing view points that help to make that photo of yours stand out. In particular, with this rock and path, by bending down, perhaps kneeling, or standing on something (if it’s available) to get a higher viewpoint, can make a noticeable difference. Sometimes those little movements, even a step left or right, can make the difference that distinguishes a great and very appealing image to one that is touristy, run of the mill. Hence, pre-editing helps to make or break an image. In this shot I have also removed the handrail in the foreground as it was a slight distraction and served no purpose in the photo – you of course may think differently, so be it, just remember these are just subjective observations to possibly interest others.

Never forgetting here, the “over stated rule of thirds” which for many budding photographers is still a mystery. Sometimes to be ignored of course, but knowing when it should be, by a decision making process before the shutter is pressed, is so very important to the end results’ viewable aesthetics. The more you do beforehand, the less you will need to do afterwards and where PP cropping becomes a necessity, then higher resolution will result when you get the composition correct, in your mind, before you shoot.

Now, the bee image, is it a Bumble Bee or some such? What a whopper! I wouldn’t want to be stung by that monster, that’s for sure. Anyway, the Post Processing (PP – as often abbreviated), is a good example to the other OP to show that post processing is also part of the photo editing process, sometimes you just can’t get in close enough. I’m assuming here because there is no EXIF information supplied that you took this at full zoom – sorry if you didn’t, the point however was to show that once again, pre-editing while important, may still require follow ups after the shoot. Most realize the latter of course, but few consider just how important is the pre-viewing, composition, positioning, DOF consideration and etc, etc. I’m hopeful that your two shots will stimulate a thought or two, leading to more thinking before the shot is taken, about what needs to be done first and for them to look also into the future, to understand what might have to be done later on.

Of course, I shouldn’t have to emphasize here, that the above applies to both film and digital photography. If only more would submit their classic ‘walk in the hills’ on a sunny afternoon like you have; there must be loads of images that would be examples to us all.

Thanks Rob O', your two photos are much admired and appreciated.

More folks, more please?

rts2568
quote=Rob O' This question is pretty interesting ... (show quote)


Actually, I do mind. Please remove your interpretation of my photos. I think the composition on both was just fine. And you've overprocessed the bee picture until it simply truly sucks. Next time, ask before you mess with my pics.

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Oct 23, 2012 04:24:21   #
Crwiwy Loc: Devon UK
 
I didn't have the Canon with me that day - purchased after - but this picture is approximately what I may have achieved with the Canon at maximum zoom.



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Oct 23, 2012 06:48:10   #
heyjoe Loc: cincinnati ohio
 
two if i am shooting a parade or anything busy with big crowds

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Oct 23, 2012 10:46:25   #
Mudshark Loc: Illinois
 
oldmalky wrote:
I only ever take out one camera an a57 which i bought as an upgrade from my a200 which i still have,so why would i take out an inferior camera when i have a better one and that includes P&S etc etc.If I were a professional then things could well be different but im not and if I miss one shot so what? there will be millions more.


And that is part of the joy of photography...as a lifetime working
pro...I envy your luxury...enjoy!!!

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