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David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

anotherview wrote:

I've yet to see a report counting the number of individuals who have died from a breakthrough infection.

The report is here: https://www.cdc.gov/v*****es/c****-**/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

Data reported as of September 27, 2021; here is a summary:

Total v******ted in US - over 183,000,000

Non-fatal hospitalizations from breakthrough infections - 16,889, of whom 11,653 (69%) were age 65 and over

Deaths from breakthrough infections - 5226, of whom 4491 (89%) were age 65 and over

Among the v******ted, 99.99% have not had a severe breakthrough case of C****-** as of 9/27/2021.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

thom w wrote:

I was at a David Bromberg show when he said "perfect pitch is when you throw an accordion in the dumpster, and it lands on the banjo".

lol.

" ... from my cold dead hands!" Chuck Moses

"Someone broke into my car and filled it with banjos!" David Bromberg

"Everyone should know what a banjar is for." Tommy Jerrell

Winder Slide - Banjo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNW6NwMVhj8

anotherview Loc: California

Looking at "Deaths from breakthrough infections," I'm supposing nearly all these deaths involved one or more existing vulnerabilities in tandem with the breakthrough infection.

The Chinese k**ler v***s strikes harder at individuals with certain conditions: old-age, obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, chronic illness, and so forth.

The public medical reports omit mention of these conditions.

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

P****r scientists say natural antibodies are better than v*****es.

https://survivalmagazine.org/news/breaking-project-veritas-p****r-scientists-your-c***d-antibodies-are-probably-better-than-the-p****r-v******tion-video/

Triple G

SteveS wrote:

P****r scientists say natural antibodies are better than v*****es.

https://survivalmagazine.org/news/breaking-project-veritas-p****r-scientists-your-c***d-antibodies-are-probably-better-than-the-p****r-v******tion-video/

However, v*****es can add an extra boost to protection in people who recovered from C****-**. Results showed that a single v*****e dose with natural immunity provided greater protection against reinfection than people with natural immunity alone.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210830/Does-SARS-CoV-2-natural-infection-immunity-better-protect-against-the-Delta-variant-than-v******tion.aspx

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

SteveS wrote:

P****r scientists say natural antibodies are better than v*****es.

- Natural immunity confers more diverse antibodies, against several proteins on the v***s, rather than just against the spike protein.
- Natural immunity antibodies appear to last longer than v*****e-induced antibodies, which decline more rapidly, especially in the elderly.
- However, data also show that natural immunity antibodies do decline over time.
- Furthermore, not everyone who survives C***d develops natural immunity.
- Studies have shown that up to 20-25% of people who survive C****-** fail to develop adequate natural immunity:
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/9/21-1042_article
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33614814/
- Giving a single m**A injection to those with natural immunity boosts antibody levels, as Triple G points out.
We should recognize natural immunity as valid protection when it is present, and we need a rapid, reliable test for immunity and stop using proof of v******tion as a surrogate for immunity.

National Park

SteveS wrote:

Those false positive tests on The View were very convenient don't ya think? Just so happened they were on a day when our VPOTUS was to be interviewed. Everyone knows how well she does with those. The fewer people asking questions the better.

Breakthrough cases, why don't we give them a name that fits, like "These damn v*****es don't work"?

V*****es aren't 100% effective, but they lessen the chances that you will catch c***d, and if you get a breakthrough case they lessen the chances that you will get seriously ill or die. Those damn v*****es DO, in fact, work. You don't understand that yet?

National Park

David Martin wrote:

False positive test results can occur (as two of t... (show quote)

Add to your list: f**e v******tion cards now exist.

anotherview Loc: California

Some people have made up their minds against the v*****e for the Chinese k**ler v***s. Appealing to reason or recent history will not persuade them to submit to v******tion.
Given so, I hope herd immunity will happen despite the v*****e hold-outs.

National Park wrote:

V*****es aren't 100% effective, but they lessen the chances that you will catch c***d, and if you get a breakthrough case they lessen the chances that you will get seriously ill or die. Those damn v*****es DO, in fact, work. You don't understand that yet?

Triple G

David Martin wrote:

- Natural immunity confers more diverse antibodies... (show quote)

I’m hearing good reports on blood titer tests as reassurance of antibody levels. My brother’s test showed the need for a booster and his wife’s results were so high, they wanted her blood! They had the P****r v******tions at the same time.

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

National Park wrote:

V*****es aren't 100% effective, but they lessen the chances that you will catch c***d, and if you get a breakthrough case they lessen the chances that you will get seriously ill or die. Those damn v*****es DO, in fact, work. You don't understand that yet?

One thing you don't seem to understand. I have had C***D according to my doctor. I had "0" symptoms and would have never known I had been infected until my blood test revealed natural antibodies. With these natural antibodies comes protection from the v***s, including the delta variant, proven by multiple studies. That's something those that have received the double v*****e can't say. With natural antibodies I see no reason to inject chemicals into my body to protect me from something I'm already protected from.
Just listening to your rant, and logic, I'm guessing you wear 3 pair of underwear just in case you s**t your pants.

Triple G

SteveS wrote:

One thing you don't seem to understand. I have had... (show quote)

Those antibodies wear off…keep testing your levels.

https://www.uclahealth.org/u-magazine/c****av***s-antibodies-fall-dramatically-in-first-3-months-after-mild-cases-of-c****-**#:~:text=A%20UCLA%20study%20shows%20that,within%20about%20a%20year.

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

Triple G wrote:

Those antibodies wear off…keep testing your levels.

https://www.uclahealth.org/u-magazine/c****av***s-antibodies-fall-dramatically-in-first-3-months-after-mild-cases-of-c****-**#:~:text=A%20UCLA%20study%20shows%20that,within%20about%20a%20year.

I'm required to have a blood test every 6 months, all is good.

National Park

SteveS wrote:

One thing you don't seem to understand. I have had... (show quote)

I understand that you may have natural antibodies as a result of getting the disease, although my understanding is that the amount of such antibodies can vary significantly from person to person who has been infected. I also understand that it is not clear yet how long those antibodies last beyond 6 months. So unless your antibody levels are periodically being tested your really have little idea how protected you are. That is why it is recommended that you get v******ted. This recommendation does not come from me, but is from the scientific community that specializes in c***d and the v*****e. 185 million Americans are fully v******ted with no significant adverse reactions. https://www.mayoclinic.org/c****av***s-c****-**/v*****e-if-already-had-c***d And, just because you have to wear 3 pair of underwear don't assume that others do.

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

National Park wrote:

I understand that you may have natural antibodies ... (show quote)

Due to having no thyroid function, I am required to get blood tests every 6 months, and request that antibodies be checked at the same time. Natural antibodies can be identified by a simple blood test, those who receive the the v******tion and have never had C***D do not have that luxury and have to take the word of someone else that they are protected. Even the FDA recommends anyone v******ted not get an antibodies test. If you can't be tested for an antibody, how do you know you're protected? Oh I forgot F***i told you so.