Cruise ship with all passengers and crew required to be v******ted have positive tests: At least six passengers on the first Crystal Symphony cruise out of New York City since March of...

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

At least six passengers on the first Crystal Symphony cruise out of New York City since March of 2020 have tested positive for the v***s. All guests were required to show proof of v*****e to board the cruise.

The C***d-positive were t***sferred to quarantine hotels on Bermuda. The passengers and ship were then subjected to quarantine and retesting on the ship.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

SteveS wrote:

At least six passengers on the first Crystal Symphony cruise out of New York City since March of 2020 have tested positive for the v***s. All guests were required to show proof of v*****e to board the cruise.

The C***d-positive were t***sferred to quarantine hotels on Bermuda. The passengers and ship were then subjected to quarantine and retesting on the ship.

False positive test results can occur (as two of the moderators of The View found out).
Breakthrough cases can occur.
V******tion is protective but not a panacea.
No test, no treatment, is ever 100%.
Why masking and social distancing should not be dismissed.
Perhaps a cruise, where close contact with folks from outside one's "bubble" may occur, is not necessarily a good idea at this time.
People are not all the same and your mileage may vary.
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The situation in Crystal Cruise's own words: https://www.crystalcruises.com/advisory-alerts/statement-crystal-symphony

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

David Martin wrote:

False positive test results can occur (as two of t... (show quote)

Those false positive tests on The View were very convenient don't ya think? Just so happened they were on a day when our VPOTUS was to be interviewed. Everyone knows how well she does with those. The fewer people asking questions the better.

Breakthrough cases, why don't we give them a name that fits, like "These damn v*****es don't work"?

Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay

SteveS wrote:

Those false positive tests on The View were very convenient don't ya think? Just so happened they were on a day when our VPOTUS was to be interviewed. Everyone knows how well she does with those. The fewer people asking questions the better.

Breakthrough cases, why don't we give them a name that fits, like "These damn v*****es don't work"?

I thought air born and death from above fitted perfectly.

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Kraken wrote:

I thought air born and death from above fitted perfectly.

lol!

A tatt of Fauchi using a mask as a para sail?

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

SteveS wrote:

Those false positive tests on The View were very convenient don't ya think? Just so happened they were on a day when our VPOTUS was to be interviewed. Everyone knows how well she does with those. The fewer people asking questions the better.

Breakthrough cases, why don't we give them a name that fits, like "These damn v*****es don't work"?

I'm double vaxed and I'm in no hurry to book a sea cruise or to turn in my mask or surrender my banjo.

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

Kraken wrote:

I thought air born and death from above fitted perfectly.

Good for you. I'm glad it "fitted".

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

SteveS wrote:

Breakthrough cases, why don't we give them a name that fits, like "These damn v*****es don't work"?

Because that would be inaccurate.

SteveS Loc: The US is my home.

David Martin wrote:

Because that would be inaccurate.

Isn't a Breakthrough Case someone who gets the v***s even though they have been v******ted not to get it? Sounds accurate to me.

David Martin Loc: Cary, NC

SteveS wrote:

Isn't a Breakthrough Case someone who gets the v***s even though they have been v******ted not to get it? Sounds accurate to me.

Yes, that is the definition of a breakthrough infection.
However, v*****e success is not limited to disease prevention, but also includes disease mitigation.

"There are very few v*****es that offer as high protection as the SARS-CoV-2 v*****es. After 8 months and delta dominance protection against hospitalization and death is nearly 100 times higher than no v*****e." (emphasis added)
—Francesca Torriani, MD, FIDSA, AAHIVS, Program Director of Infection Prevention and Clinical Epidemiology and Tuberculosis Control UC San Diego Health

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Texcaster wrote:

I'm double vaxed and I'm in no hurry to book a sea cruise or to turn in my mask or surrender my banjo.

I was at a David Bromberg show when he said "perfect pitch is when you throw an accordion in the dumpster, and it lands on the banjo".

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

SteveS wrote:

At least six passengers on the first Crystal Symphony cruise out of New York City since March of 2020 have tested positive for the v***s. All guests were required to show proof of v*****e to board the cruise.

The C***d-positive were t***sferred to quarantine hotels on Bermuda. The passengers and ship were then subjected to quarantine and retesting on the ship.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

David Martin wrote:

Yes, that is the definition of a breakthrough infe... (show quote)

Thanks for keeping it real based on data.

Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL

thom w wrote:

I was at a David Bromberg show when he said "perfect pitch is when you throw an accordion in the dumpster, and it lands on the banjo".

...and when the two of them cover a set of bagpipes in the bottom of the can..

anotherview Loc: California

Breakthrough v***s infections do occur but at a very low percentage, below 1% last I read. I also understand that individuals experiencing a breakthrough v***s infection have mild symptoms from it. The v*****e for the Chinese k**ler v***s moderates the effects of the breakthrough infection.

V******tion immunizes humans from v***s infection by marshalling the natural immune response ahead of time. This timing prevents a full-blown infection to occur.

I've yet to see a report counting the number of individuals who have died from a breakthrough infection.

SteveS wrote:

At least six passengers on the first Crystal Symphony cruise out of New York City since March of 2020 have tested positive for the v***s. All guests were required to show proof of v*****e to board the cruise.

The C***d-positive were t***sferred to quarantine hotels on Bermuda. The passengers and ship were then subjected to quarantine and retesting on the ship.