Serving the Country
Oct 19, 2012 14:56:05 #
I find it odd that those who do not serve but pay the bills for those who do are somehow looked down upon by some. Think about it - not everyone could serve in the military as there isn't enough room. Unless we are going to pass a constitutional amendment that changes the requirements to be President then it is a moot point. I just wish the current requirements were enforced.
Oct 19, 2012 15:09:54 #
I've said it before that I don't think a person running for President has to have a military background, but at some point I would like to see some member of their family that has had some type of military service. George Romney didn't, Mitt didn't, his sons didn't. After 3 generations I just think it's a little odd. Maybe Ann's dad or family has, who knows. . . To me it's just saying... "military service, that's for someone else, not us." But that's just my opinion.
Oct 19, 2012 15:13:06 #
Pay the bills?? Millions and millions of people pay their bills, Mitt uses every loop hole that he can to pay as little as possible.
Oct 19, 2012 19:59:40 #
the_imaginist wrote:
Pay the bills?? Millions and millions of people pay their bills, Mitt uses every loop hole that he can to pay as little as possible.
Do you claim all legal deductions when you file your income tax?
Oct 19, 2012 21:25:39 #
I am a Navy Vietnam Vet (aboard USS Forrestal) and I have no grudge against those who avoided service during that time. But I think those who didn't serve should be forthright about it and not try to portray what they did instead as being the same as serving.
Oct 19, 2012 21:35:07 #
Bangee5 wrote:
I joined the Navy but volunteered to go to Vietnam... (show quote)
If you'll remember, there were Republicans and Democrats who favored the war and there were Republicans and Democrats who opposed the war. The split was not along party or ideological lines. That is why those who favored the war were referred to as HAWKS and those who opposed the war were referred to as DOVES.
Oct 19, 2012 21:42:44 #
BW326 wrote:
quote=sarge69 I served with Mormons in the milita... (show quote)
I agree with you about Nixon. Watergate will be his enduring legacy, but he did a lot of very positive things as president. His trip to China for one.
Oct 19, 2012 21:46:14 #
Mac wrote:
quote=BW326 quote=sarge69 I served with Mormons ... (show quote)
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Oct 19, 2012 21:49:45 #
thegrover wrote:
quote=BW326 quote=sarge69 I served with Mormons ... (show quote)
I find Nixon fascinating. I've read three or four biographies of him. He truly was a self-made man, he really pushed himself to succeed.
Oct 19, 2012 21:55:40 #
the_imaginist wrote:
I've said it before that I don't think a person running for President has to have a military background, but at some point I would like to see some member of their family that has had some type of military service. George Romney didn't, Mitt didn't, his sons didn't. After 3 generations I just think it's a little odd. Maybe Ann's dad or family has, who knows. . . To me it's just saying... "military service, that's for someone else, not us." But that's just my opinion.
It's everybody's country, everybody should perform service to it.
Oct 19, 2012 23:14:06 #
Further proof of the HYPOCRISY of the left!. Why weren't these questions asked 4 years ago about Barryshelvik's record when he ran against Veteran John McCain? Why was this question not asked to Governor Clinton when he was running against WW2 vet George Herbert Walker Bush? Let us also not forget LBJ getting discharged from the navy in the early years of ww2 so he could run for congress? JFK being sent to the pacific cause one of his bimbos turned out to be a Nazi spy? Lets face it the last democrat with an honest military record who saw combat in WW1 was Harry Truman. Who despite firing Gen MacArthur is about the only democrat I have any respect for.
Oct 19, 2012 23:23:08 #
thegrover wrote:
He is the Commander in Chief of the US Military, so he is serving. If you think I am giving him a by with this reply, trying wearing those shoes. I would not. You are welcome to try.
He is the Commander in Chief of the US Military, so he is serving. If you think I am giving him a by with this reply, trying wearing those shoes. I would not. You are welcome to try.
And as soon as Romney takes the oath of office in January, he will be the Commander in Chief of the US Military and serving as well.
Oct 19, 2012 23:25:16 #
I had a teeshirt once that had Nixon's face on it and said "Nixon in 80!!! He is tanned , rested and ready! Nixon was a complicated man. His best friend in the senate was JFK. He created the EPA, started the whole détente playing china against the soviets that Regan benefited from when he destroyed the soviet union and its domination of eastern Europe. As for Watergate, he only got caught doing what JFK, RF, and LBJ had been doing for years. The bugging and Invasion of MLK"s privacy was under the orders of those lovely Kennedy boys after all. JFK got us into Vietnam, LBJ got use in deeper but Richard Nixon got us out. In the words of Lyn rd Skynrd " Now Watergate does not bother us, does your conscious bother you? " Nixon was a statesman, and on his worst day was still a hundred times better president then the clown who is in the white house right now.
Oct 19, 2012 23:33:18 #
sinatraman wrote:
Further proof of the HYPOCRISY of the left!. Why ... (show quote)
I started this because of the the claim by Ann Romney that Mormon Church missions were as good as being in the military. I have no issue with someone running for president who has not been in the military. The issue is not not being in the military it is avoiding being in the military.
Since everyone posted has expanded the issue let me add two things.
"Liberals got women the right to vote. Liberals got African-Americans the right to vote. Liberals created Social Security and lifted millions of elderly people out of poverty. Liberals ended segregation. Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. Liberals created Medicare. Liberals passed the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act. What did Conservatives do? They opposed them on every one of those things...every one! So when you try to hurl that label at my feet, 'Liberal,' as if it were something to be ashamed of, something dirty, something to run away from, it won't work, Senator, because I will pick up that label and I will wear it as a badge of honor." -- Matt Santos, The West Wing
http://www.va.gov/opa/publications/archives/docs/history_in_brief.pdf
Oct 19, 2012 23:41:02 #
sinatraman wrote:
I had a teeshirt once that had Nixon's face on it ... (show quote)
To better understand how we got into Vietnam read "Street Without Joy" Marines were first sent to Vietnam in the 1800's (not a typo) After World War 2 the French recolonization of VN was a disguised UN effort with WW2 Vets from many countries and a lot of US Military equipment.
Obama is one of the best Presidents we have ever had. If anyone was a clown it was GW Bush and I was foolish enough to vote for him twice. I am now a recovering Republican. The current Republican party is not the one I supported for most of my life.
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