More Advice from Tony N (Page 4): In the current era of rapid delivery of global products, the concept of grey market by Canon and Nikon really should be a thing of the past. Do Nikon...

JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington

In the current era of rapid delivery of global products, the concept of grey market by Canon and Nikon really should be a thing of the past. Do Nikon and Canon really make country specific models? Unless they do, why should they care where a consumer purchases a camera or body.
Are Canon and Nikon and perhaps Sony, just extracting a higher price from consumers in the US and perhaps Europe?

Again, the whole grey market concept is really just a penalty on the consumer.

chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA

Alafoto wrote:

Many of my quite well educated friends here in the south tend to drop the 'r's from their speech. I grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma where they didn't talk like that. However dropping 'g's was quite common. i.e; goin' rather than going. Lest all have a glass or sweet tea and be friends.

OK...so, if you're gonna do it, do it right. Drop the "e" and put an apostrophe in its place. Otherwise the reader may think "enemy"...fo' sure.

one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY

Gene51 wrote:

Good reason to never buy anything previously owned by TN. . .

Even Tony admits he puts his equipment through the gauntlet.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

JFCoupe wrote:

In the current era of rapid delivery of global products, the concept of grey market by Canon and Nikon really should be a thing of the past. Do Nikon and Canon really make country specific models? Unless they do, why should they care where a consumer purchases a camera or body.
Are Canon and Nikon and perhaps Sony, just extracting a higher price from consumers in the US and perhaps Europe?

Again, the whole grey market concept is really just a penalty on the consumer.

Someone here can probably speak to the 'history' and 'governance' of camera markets vs say computers. The markets are segmented into regions and specific countries for more reasons than to screw the customers, no matter how it now looks in Oct 2021.

BebuLamar

JFCoupe wrote:

In the current era of rapid delivery of global products, the concept of grey market by Canon and Nikon really should be a thing of the past. Do Nikon and Canon really make country specific models? Unless they do, why should they care where a consumer purchases a camera or body.
Are Canon and Nikon and perhaps Sony, just extracting a higher price from consumers in the US and perhaps Europe?

Again, the whole grey market concept is really just a penalty on the consumer.

They may or may not making camera somewhat difference depending on where they are going to sell. But their point about gray market is that for each country they have to sell at a different price and thus their profit margin is difference and also their level of service. Also for certain country they would have more liability than others if their products harm someone.

Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL

jerryc41 wrote:

Right, and that is intended to encourage people to buy USA Nikons.

Since the repair shop is run by Nikon USA, that seems a sensible business practice.

Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL

chasgroh wrote:

OK...so, if you're gonna do it, do it right. Drop the "e" and put an apostrophe in its place. Otherwise the reader may think "enemy"...fo' sure.

Excuse me...in my part of the south, it's enemy fo' sho'

Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area

CHG_CANON wrote:

I left it alone, but technically, second best is now Sony with Nikon falling to third ...

I couldn’t be happier than with my Fuji X-T2, and Fuji X100V. Guess I don’t know what I’m missing.

LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773

Fugi makes great cameras. I think the pecking order for cameras should take into consideration the mirrorless segment. Sony rules this segment. Canon is second. Nikon is a distant third.

chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA

Alafoto wrote:

Excuse me...in my part of the south, it's enemy fo' sho'

...haha, indeed. You shoulda seen me in basic training at Ft Polk, LA when this SoCal kid was introduced to grits. I thought it was Malto-Meal and put sugar and milk on 'em. Well, this HUGE mess Sgt. hovered over me yelling "...watchu doin' to mah GRITS, boy!" Haha, and later I took flight school at Ft. Rucker, Alabama...so I'm *definitely* familiar with the south!

Timmers Loc: San Antonio Texas.

jerryc41 wrote:

I watched another video from Tony Northrup last night, and he came down strong against gray market gear. He unknowingly bought a gray market lens, and he had trouble getting it repaired. He finally found a shop that cheated and fixed it for him. If you think your item will never need repair, you can save some money, but if it were me, I'd always worry about something going wrong with it.

One must wonder about this Tony dude. He is an expert on gear, writes blogs and he got suckered into buying gray market gear. One must wonder about his grasp of the subject he professes to be knowledge about. Perhaps Tony should have kept this to his self?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

jerryc41 wrote:

I watched another video from Tony Northrup last night, and he came down strong against gray market gear. He unknowingly bought a gray market lens, and he had trouble getting it repaired. He finally found a shop that cheated and fixed it for him. If you think your item will never need repair, you can save some money, but if it were me, I'd always worry about something going wrong with it.

Jerry the other half of that equation is I have bought Nikon since 1966. Not once has any one of the numerous cameras I purchased had any need whatsoever of any type of repair. Since the only difference in the Nikon cameras, grey market or those certified by Nikon USA is the piece of paper called a warranty, I could have probably saved thousands of dollars buying grey market cameras that would have needed no repair at all.

I get your point and do not necessarily disagree but.....

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Gene51 wrote:

We all know that CANON! is an acronym for Can't Afford Nikon Oh No!

Dennis

Delta49 Loc: Central Indiana

CHG_CANON wrote:

Another solution is don't buy Nikon.

My goodness Paul, you have successfully opened up a can of worms with just 6 words. Not just about cameras but everything else from spelling to infinity. LoL It just shows that everyone has some kind of button to push.

LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773

Timmers wrote:

One must wonder about this Tony dude. He is an expert on gear, writes blogs and he got suckered into buying gray market gear. One must wonder about his grasp of the subject he professes to be knowledge about. Perhaps Tony should have kept this to his self?

Have you seen his house and his new Beamer; and his wife is easy on the eyes. I thinks his grasp on making money is what he is all about?