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Oct 3, 2021 09:45:03   #
Stephan G
 
chrissybabe wrote:
I have seen, from several sources, that it is 90-92% of unvaccinated have been catching covid. This is such a telling statistic that anybody who still resists vaccination have any, or all, of the following problems -
1. They are plain stupid.
2. You couldn't convince them of anything even with proof.
3. They really get a kick out of taking a path different than others.
4. Just plain ignorant.
5. Possibly latent pyschopath because they have no empathy for others.
And I have to think that the most unlucky person in this world would end up in or before a jury composed of 12 of the above (11 in the case of in).
I have seen, from several sources, that it is 90-9... (show quote)


An anti-vaccine woman was asked about her source of information for vaccination, she proudly stated various dubious sources such as some of the talking heads on certain programs as well as what she is hearing from her friends. When asked as to whether she chooses to believe sources that do not provide evidence for their proclamations, vague opinions, or sources that provide strong evidence, specifics on the pandemic, scientific research. She hemmed and hawed and just simply walked away, mumbling to herself (probably one of her main sources).

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Oct 3, 2021 10:01:32   #
Stephan G
 
keywest305 wrote:
Yes they do and thats their choice. Again you have no right telling someone what to do with their body as adults as long as they are not hurting anyone. You can tell them the risk factors and offer help but then choice is theirs. IMO...I have friends weithvacvine and friends without. I love them all the same. Most have already got the virus and had a little cold for a few days and believe they have they antibodies which is stronger than the vaccine. I dont judge any of their choices. Divide and conquer is the agenda. Less than 1% of country has got the virus but we destroy the countries economy over it. If you want to stay in and hide from virus i welcome that and if you want to socialize I dont judge that either. You want wear a mask your choice or maskless im fine with that also. Just ask one question, if the vaccine works and you have it why are you still scared. Just as many people with vaccine if not more are catching the virus...hmm...remember just my thoughts. Am I right I dont know but soon the facts wont be hidden by gov't and we may all see we were fooled.
Yes they do and thats their choice. Again you have... (show quote)


Society has the right to protect its members from decimation regardless of form or source. In the USA, the citizens ARE the government. This is how the country was made, by We, The People. This is History.

PS., The vaccine is an insurance, it is not the cause of the epidemic. I suggest you read up on viruses and how they function. Then some definitive information on the methods to control the debility from the virus. The facts are not hidden by "the gov't". The facts are hidden by the myopia of many who do not do the research.

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Oct 3, 2021 12:01:38   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
sueyeisert wrote:
You don’t need to wear a mask or get the vaccine but then stay home. Your behavior could infect other people with the virus. Also if you get sick, will you go to a hospital and expect doctors ,nurses and staff to treat you? You could infect them. Also your taking up a bed that a heart patient or other person might need. People are dying or postponing life saving treatment because of lack of beds due to the virus. No person is an island we live as a community. We routinely get vaccinated for other diseases get vaccinated against covid.
You don’t need to wear a mask or get the vaccine b... (show quote)

We’ll said.

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Oct 3, 2021 13:06:47   #
lenben Loc: Seattle
 
Only Christian scientists have a religious basis for not getting vaccinated - but they can wear a mask. NO other religion has an exemption from vaccination. Using that as an excuse is simply a lie. And masks are public health measure - they protect everybody else but not the wearer. This is part of herd immunity.

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Oct 3, 2021 13:12:14   #
Doc Mck Loc: Terrell,Texas
 
This message applies to those weak minded individuals that are anti-vaxxers and insist on going around and spreading their infections. Your thoughts are ok, but, they are wrong. The facts told to me 2 weeks ago by our hospital administrator:1. 20 % of the Covid admissions are vaccinated people. All of those 20% are well enough to go home in a week or so without supplemental oxygen. 2. The other 80% have a significant death rate and many go home on oxygen and end up with permanent pulmonary disability. Those are the facts. I recommend the Moderna vaccine. It seems to last longer. If not available, I recommend the Phizer vaccine. If you are afraid of needles, stay home and don’t jeapardize the rest of us. Is it ok with you that only 1% of the people that catch it from you die. If you fire a rifle into a crowd of 100 and one dies, you are guilty of murder. I’m at the point of tiring of informing stupid people that don’t want to deal with the facts. Another word of advise: those that wear a mask that only covers their mouth are not masked. This virus lives in the nose. If a nurse tried that in the hospital,they would be escorted to the front door.

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Oct 3, 2021 13:17:39   #
Doc Mck Loc: Terrell,Texas
 
Doc Mck wrote:
Your thoughts are ok, but, they are wrong. The facts told to me 2 weeks ago by our hospital administrator:1. 20 % of the Covid admissions are vaccinated people. All of those 20% are well enough to go home in a week or so without supplemental oxygen. 2. The other 80% have a significant death rate and many go home on oxygen and end up with permanent pulmonary disability. Those are the facts. I recommend the Moderna vaccine. It seems to last longer. If not available, I recommend the Phizer vaccine. If you are afraid of needles, stay home and don’t jeapardize the rest of us. Is it ok with you that only 1% of the people that catch it from you die. If you fire a rifle into a crowd of 100 and one dies, you are guilty of murder. I’m at the point of tiring of informing stupid people that don’t want to deal with the facts. Another word of advise: those that wear a mask that only covers their mouth are not masked. This virus lives in the nose. If a nurse tried that in the hospital,they would be escorted to the front door.
Your thoughts are ok, but, they are wrong. The fac... (show quote)

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Oct 3, 2021 13:31:42   #
srt101fan
 
lenben wrote:
Only Christian scientists have a religious basis for not getting vaccinated - but they can wear a mask. NO other religion has an exemption from vaccination. Using that as an excuse is simply a lie. And masks are public health measure - they protect everybody else but not the wearer. This is part of herd immunity.


Masks also protect the wearers.

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Oct 3, 2021 13:46:13   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
lenben wrote:
Only Christian scientists have a religious basis for not getting vaccinated - but they can wear a mask. NO other religion has an exemption from vaccination. Using that as an excuse is simply a lie. And masks are public health measure - they protect everybody else but not the wearer. This is part of herd immunity.


Christian "scientists"... Not getting vaccinated? Seems like an oxymoron to me!

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Oct 3, 2021 13:54:54   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
This is going on and on, I have to say it, what on earth is wrong with these anti vaccine /anti mask people getting all butt hurt for being asked to do the right thing, especially in light of verifiable facts and figures? I just can't comprehend their thinking, (or lack of). Did they not get enough attention when they were children?

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Oct 3, 2021 15:16:35   #
cobra6922 Loc: Enumclaw WA
 
Just curious, does anyone have any data that shows masks actually work?

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Oct 3, 2021 15:54:54   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
cobra6922 wrote:
Just curious, does anyone have any data that shows masks actually work?

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210907/masks-limit-covid-spread-study

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Oct 3, 2021 15:57:44   #
ShelbyDave Loc: Lone Rock, WI
 
brian43053 wrote:
True - your body - your choice. I wonder how someone would feel if they refused the vaccine, got the bug, was strong enuf to fight it off but in turn passed it on to a loved one in their family and that loved one died. Don’t say it can’t happen. It did happen to a good friend of mine. While you do have a choice, you also have a responsibility to your family, loved ones and the general public. End of rant


Thank you for your comment, you do have a choice, you also have a responsibility. I get tired of hearing we have rights without hearing we also have responsibilities. When I was a kid, I remember a teacher telling us "Your rights end where my nose begin." I don't believe we should have rights that jeopardize another's life. Ya, I know, I will get crucified for saying that.

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Oct 3, 2021 16:00:59   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
ShelbyDave wrote:
Thank you for your comment, you do have a choice, you also have a responsibility. I get tired of hearing we have rights without hearing we also have responsibilities. When I was a kid, I remember a teacher telling us "Your rights end where my nose begin." I don't believe we should have rights that jeopardize another's life. Ya, I know, I will get crucified for saying that.


You are 100% right.

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Oct 3, 2021 16:48:15   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
cobra6922 wrote:
Just curious, does anyone have any data that shows masks actually work?


The virus is airborne, I wouldn't think "data" is strictly necessary, (although it is available), common sense should be enough! Some people breathe out... Then some people breathe in. Kind of obvious isn't it?

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Oct 3, 2021 19:14:11   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
After reading the last 8 pages, it appears that everyone is in agreement that vaccination is the only way through this pandemic and that anyone who thinks differently is stupid, irresponsible, ignorant or misinformed. Does this include a sizable portion of medical workers or former Covid sufferers with natural immunity. It appears we are rapidly approaching Australia. Check it out.

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