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Oct 3, 2021 20:03:21   #
KindaSpikey Loc: English living in San Diego
 
Reuss Griffiths wrote:
After reading the last 8 pages, it appears that everyone is in agreement that vaccination is the only way through this pandemic and that anyone who thinks differently is stupid, irresponsible, ignorant or misinformed. Does this include a sizable portion of medical workers or former Covid sufferers with natural immunity. It appears we are rapidly approaching Australia. Check it out.

I don't think we're too close to the situation in Australia quite yet (thankfully). Former Covid sufferers who luckily /maybe, have developed a natural immunity, well I guess they maybe personally somewhat safe, but I don't believe that would stop them from being carrier's and continuing to infect others, (kind of a selfish asshole attitude if you ask me). As for the "sizable portion" of medical workers, care qualify that with a number or percentage? I suspect measured against the total number of medical workers in this country, the number would be pretty low, probably in line with the hold outs in the general population anyway. As a side note, I have a friend who is a surgeon in a very large Californian hospital. She's the chatty friendly type, and chats with her co-workers daily, from janitors to professors, and as of 15 minutes ago, (just spoke to her), she doesn't know, or know of a single person that she interacts with who is unvaccinated, or doesn't wear a mask (because of the job). So there it is, I personally will continue to believe that there's too many selfish people out there, perhaps trying to "make a point", maybe some enjoy the conflict and argument, and some just "banging the big drum" because they crave the attention, (thinking maybe mommy didn't give them enough time when they were children)? Anyhoo, nuff said, have a great day and (try to) stay safe.

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Oct 3, 2021 20:05:39   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
Reuss Griffiths wrote:
After reading the last 8 pages, it appears that everyone is in agreement that vaccination is the only way through this pandemic and that anyone who thinks differently is stupid, irresponsible, ignorant or misinformed. Does this include a sizable portion of medical workers or former Covid sufferers with natural immunity. It appears we are rapidly approaching Australia. Check it out.

Yes.

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Oct 4, 2021 01:13:46   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
Is it necessary to advance your cause by diminisning others. The source of a lot of the information available about alternative other than vaccination comes from foreign sources because, while we have more than enough data to confirm or refute them, we choose not to analyze this information because we really don't want to know the answers as they don't fit the narrative. Many millions of people have already had Covid and have natural immunity but they are not even considered in impacts or lack of it on public health. Foreign studies have shown that natural immunity is up to 13 times more effective than vaccines but are not considered in this country. Our only reaction to this is to dismiss it as not proven or not germane. As far as medical personnel not getting vaccinated, there is a large enough percentage as to draw media attention.

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Oct 4, 2021 02:21:02   #
John Matthews Loc: Wasilla, Alaska
 
Reuss Griffiths wrote:
After reading the last 8 pages, it appears that everyone is in agreement that vaccination is the only way through this pandemic and that anyone who thinks differently is stupid, irresponsible, ignorant or misinformed. Does this include a sizable portion of medical workers or former Covid sufferers with natural immunity. It appears we are rapidly approaching Australia. Check it out.


No “sizable portion of medical workers” reject the idea of masks or vaccination in the United States. Cite your legitimate source

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Oct 4, 2021 09:54:59   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Reuss Griffiths wrote:
It appears we are rapidly approaching Australia. Check it out.


According to the latest study of plate tectonics, that is not quite right. Australia is moving toward the northeast, and that is causing trouble with their GPS system.

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Oct 4, 2021 10:40:56   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
If I understand correctly, a claim for a religious exemption from vaccination generally fails. This claim seems more like another avenue for the vaccine hold-outs to travel to avoid vaccination.
lenben wrote:
Only Christian scientists have a religious basis for not getting vaccinated - but they can wear a mask. NO other religion has an exemption from vaccination. Using that as an excuse is simply a lie. And masks are public health measure - they protect everybody else but not the wearer. This is part of herd immunity.

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Oct 4, 2021 10:49:40   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
anotherview wrote:
If I understand correctly, a claim for a religious exemption from vaccination generally fails.


But if they're really, really anxious to get into heaven...

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Oct 4, 2021 11:41:54   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Good morning. I've been spanked for speaking out of school. This thread appears to verge on a topic belong in the Attic. So I must decline to address your insight here.
jerryc41 wrote:
But if they're really, really anxious to get into heaven...

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Oct 5, 2021 16:54:52   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
John Matthews wrote:
No “sizable portion of medical workers” reject the idea of masks or vaccination in the United States. Cite your legitimate source


Again, not something that can readily be done because any definitive information regarding a subject like this is immediately labeled as misinformation and censored by social media. Suffice it to say that the phenomena is large enough to be reported as a problem by the media.

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