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Sep 27, 2021 12:08:33   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I'll address who is destroying the bedrock of democracy—the e*******l process unlike you who never bring anything to the table intellectually but ignorance and h**e. But first, the stink from your BS is coming right through the computer. Being totally hypothetical, there is no real point to your thread as John Eastman does not speak for Trump anyway. And what he proposed is within the law anyway. Many state legislators had different slates of e*****rs in 2020, PA for one. And there are provisions for that in law. This has occurred before in America which dim bulbs wouldn't know.

Now, who is destroying the bedrock of democracy—the e*******l process? Mass mail-in v****g, b****t harvesting, no v**er ID requirements, no b****t signature verification, failure to purge the v**er rolls, dead and ghost b****ts counted, not allowing poll watchers, counting late v**es cast after the polls closed, duplicate v**es counted, and more proven illegalities all perpetuated by Democrats is what has destroyed the e*******l process in this country.

And that's a shame because in a sham of an sectoral process we ended up with your boy Biden who has t***sformed us into a third-rate country in 8 short months.
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The e*******l process put Trump in office. Hillary won the popular v**e. How soon the thick forget.

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Sep 27, 2021 12:12:24   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fotoartist wrote:
All that typing contains facts, something you wouldn't know about. What have you ever brought to the table but A-Hole opinions.

Only in your mind.

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Sep 27, 2021 12:19:00   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Kraken wrote:
Only in your mind.


There is another one.

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Sep 27, 2021 12:25:24   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fotoartist wrote:
There is another one.


Where do you keep that one. Try using it, the one you have is broken.

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Sep 27, 2021 12:30:03   #
National Park
 
Wyantry wrote:
That is all really interesting reading. Typical legal obfuscation, i.e. “Lawyer-talk”.

The thing is, IT DOES NOT MATTER!
It DID NOT HAPPEN!
It CAN NOT happen now!

Continued howling, whining, crying and so-forth about “what-might-have-been” seems absolutely IRRELEVANT. It may go to proving “prior intent”, but that is prior history that right now does-not-matter.

More important is the nonsense going on in congress RIGHT NOW—Potentially placing onerous tax increases on (you can guess it) the Middle Class, and Small Businesses. As well as spending TRILLIONS of dollars with no realistic plans to assure how it will be paid for!

Oh, the tax-the-rich plan currently being floated sounds good, but if-and-until the entire tax-code is overhauled, “the rich” will {and have} already structured their tax liabilities to avoid paying taxes—legally! And until the laws are applied equally to all persons INCLUDING CONGRESS, the onerous burden of taxes will CONTINUE to be born by — (you can guess it) — the middle class and small businesses.
The “rich” will be able to continue using the built-in tax benefits to sequester, shield and avoid payments. Someone may be WORTH billions, yet only “MAKE” say, $100k/y.—the limit of their ‘tax liability’ because that is their ‘annual income’—not related to their ‘net worth’.
Or a ‘congressperson’ may make $80k/y, yet have multiple houses or properties in and around D.C. or elsewhere, that are worth hundreds-of-millions yet contribute next-to-nothing in taxes.

Yet the current bills being considered by a Democrat majority would adversely affect small businesses, small personal-farms and ultimately, the middle-class taxpayers.

A summary of the bill(s) and the possible effects and a timeline are here: https://www.nfib.com/content/analysis/national/key-dates-to-watch-congress-and-the-threat-of-small-business-tax-increases/

An assessment of some of the potential effects is here:
https://www.cagw.org/thewastewatcher/congress-should-not-impose-damaging-small-business-tax

I just hope one-or-a-few democrats have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to Pelousy et. al. and the machinations being tried to get both bills through the House concurrently, without v****g on a bill (infrastructure) already agreed-to by the Senate.

It seems to be an iteration of the old “my way or the highway” attitude (so famously employed by the “previous President”) . . . .
That is all really interesting reading. Typical ... (show quote)


Nothing is more important that the plan and attempt by Trump and his minions to o*******w a legally elected government. Nothing!

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Sep 27, 2021 12:38:56   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
National Park wrote:
Nothing is more important that the plan and attempt by Trump and his minions to o*******w a legally elected government. Nothing!


That is abundantly true; and unless everyone in this country acknowledges that, the country is lost. The next e******n will be a sham.
I think it is too late. Democracy is a failed experiment.

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Sep 28, 2021 08:25:14   #
neillaubenthal
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
One can always cite problems with the government, and blame the current administration. There is a counterpoint to everything you have cited—but to argue those points would be a wasted effort.
The real point of this thread is the six pint plan by the Trump administration to destroy the e*******l process in this country. Trump lost, but he cannot admit that; and has done everything in his power to destroy the bedrock of democracy—the e*******l process. Address that. All integrity, virtue has been lost forever Trump and his minions did it. Read “Peril” if you want to understand.
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Obviously you don’t know how lawyers work…that memo ain’t a plan. Lawyers get called on all the time to draft legal position and analysis papers on many subjects. Just like a high school debate team…they can debate the merits or potential merits on one side and tomorrow debate the opposite side. It is a simple matter of analysis of what the various interpretations of the law actually says.

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Sep 28, 2021 08:39:33   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
neillaubenthal wrote:
Obviously you don’t know how lawyers work…that memo ain’t a plan. Lawyers get called on all the time to draft legal position and analysis papers on many subjects. Just like a high school debate team…they can debate the merits or potential merits on one side and tomorrow debate the opposite side. It is a simple matter of analysis of what the various interpretations of the law actually says.


I do know how lawyers work. The memo speaks for itself.

Read “Peril” for a better understanding of the significance of the memo.

“So here’s the scenario that we propose:”. That is word for word introduction to the proposed plan.

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Sep 28, 2021 08:46:49   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
These men were planning to o*******w a l********e e******n by subverting the constitutional process of certifying legal e******n results. They should be charged with treason.


I believe we have to be at war for that, but there are plenty of legitimate charges. It certainly was a treasonous act.

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Sep 28, 2021 08:49:32   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
thom w wrote:
I believe we have to be at war for that, but there are plenty of legitimate charges. It certainly was a treasonous act.


The Republicans would’ve all over it.
It was treason.

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Sep 28, 2021 09:02:17   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
A written proposition to overturn a l********e P*******tial e******n by circumventing provisions of the Constitution, altering the established duties of the Vice-President in certifying e*******l v**es; is treason.

It is what is done in other countries, never in the U.S.

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Sep 28, 2021 09:16:22   #
National Park
 
neillaubenthal wrote:
Obviously you don’t know how lawyers work…that memo ain’t a plan. Lawyers get called on all the time to draft legal position and analysis papers on many subjects. Just like a high school debate team…they can debate the merits or potential merits on one side and tomorrow debate the opposite side. It is a simple matter of analysis of what the various interpretations of the law actually says.


I know how lawyers work. I have been one for 45 years. You can call it what you want, but it was a despicable attempt to o*******w the results of a f**r e******n. And this was not an interpretation of law. No law supports the “analysis,” and I use that term loosely, that the attorney came up with. Nothing in more than 200 years of e******n law supports what they attempted to do. When no law supports what your client wants to do you have an ethical obligation to say that to your client, not to fabricate some BS “analysis.

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Sep 28, 2021 09:31:29   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
National Park wrote:
I know how lawyers work. I have been one for 45 years. You can call it what you want, but it was a despicable attempt to o*******w the results of a f**r e******n. And this was not an interpretation of law. No law supports the “analysis,” and I use that term loosely, that the attorney came up with. Nothing in more than 200 years of e******n law supports what they attempted to do. When no law supports what your client wants to do you have an ethical obligation to say that to your client, not to fabricate some BS “analysis.
I know how lawyers work. I have been one for 45 y... (show quote)


Thank you.

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Sep 28, 2021 09:35:40   #
National Park
 
National Park wrote:
I know how lawyers work. I have been one for 45 years. You can call it what you want, but it was a despicable attempt to o*******w the results of a f**r e******n. And this was not an interpretation of law. No law supports the “analysis,” and I use that term loosely, that the attorney came up with. Nothing in more than 200 years of e******n law supports what they attempted to do. When no law supports what your client wants to do you have an ethical obligation to say that to your client, not to fabricate some BS “analysis.
I know how lawyers work. I have been one for 45 y... (show quote)
Imagine what Republicans would have said if Clinton had tried to overturn Trump's e******n the same way that Trump has tried to overturn Biden's e******n. They wanted to "lock her up" just because of the private server nonsense! They would have called for her to be hung from a crane in the streets of D.C.

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Sep 28, 2021 09:37:02   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
National Park wrote:
Imagine what Republicans would have said if Clinton had tried to overturn Trump's e******n the same way that Trump has tried to overturn Biden's e******n. They wanted to "lock her up" just because of the private server nonsense! They would have called for her to be hung from a crane in the streets of D.C.


They would be all over it.

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