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Sep 26, 2021 13:06:54   #
PGJR Loc: 33868
 
therwol wrote:
I have an Epson V800 scanner. It does have an option for scanning negatives directly on the glass. It has a dual lens system and changes focus if you specify that your film is on the glass when you scan it. It's a setting in the Epson software. I've used this function to scan negatives that don't match any of the sizes of the supplied film holders, 127 being one of them. I think you can go to around 8x10. I don't think that the lower Epson models have this feature, but I could be wrong.
I have an Epson V800 scanner. It does have an op... (show quote)


The V800 is a bit out of my price range. My goal is to just digitize them so we can look at them more often than we can when they're in boxes & share them with family. Thanks for your input.

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Sep 26, 2021 13:13:53   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
PGJR wrote:
Another great point I must consider, thank you. I do have a large Rocket Blaster & I should be able to get an anti-static brush & Pec-12. None of my negatives that are in sleeves have never been out of their sleeves & rarely looked at. That should help with any fingerprints. Thank you.


Actually, you may be surprised to find that all of your negatives are not pristine. Who processed them? Who put them away? Many of mine were processed in supermarkets by unskilled people. Fingerprints are the most annoying thing about some of those. They have chemically reacted with the negatives over the years, and cleaning doesn't touch them. Cleaning them up after the fact in a photo editor can be difficult. I also noticed that some (but not all) of those processed in supermarkets have had more color shifting over time than the others. Perhaps they just didn't pay attention to their chemicals or didn't properly stabilize them as the last step in the processing. The ones I had processed in camera stores came out in better shape. I have some color negatives that go back over 50 years that have hardly faded or shifted. I don't write any of this to deter you. I'm sure you'll get mostly good results. You should just be aware of some of the issues ahead of time. One thing I didn't mention is blowing and brushing off the scanner glass before you put new negatives into the scanner. Just leaving the scanner lid open for a few minutes will create an opportunity for dust to land on it, and it does. You don't want to scan that.

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Sep 26, 2021 13:17:57   #
PGJR Loc: 33868
 
Thank you for your great info but the only Apple I have is a 2007 Imac, a 2012 Mac Mini & 2019 MacBook Pro. I do not have a macro lens.

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Sep 26, 2021 13:26:49   #
Stan Fayer
 
If you donโ€™t have a scanner i have used a light table and photographed the negative. Downloaded the photo of the negative and in Photo (Apple) , edit I am able to reverse a negative either b&w or color. In the curves section reverse the outside bars and the photo will go from negative to positive.
Stan

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Sep 26, 2021 13:31:54   #
PGJR Loc: 33868
 
therwol wrote:
Actually, you may be surprised to find that all of your negatives are not pristine. Who processed them? Who put them away? Many of mine were processed in supermarkets by unskilled people. Fingerprints are the most annoying thing about some of those. They have chemically reacted with the negatives over the years, and cleaning doesn't touch them. Cleaning them up after the fact in a photo editor can be difficult. I also noticed that some (but not all) of those processed in supermarkets have had more color shifting over time than the others. Perhaps they just didn't pay attention to their chemicals or didn't properly stabilize them as the last step in the processing. The ones I had processed in camera stores came out in better shape. I have some color negatives that go back over 50 years that have hardly faded or shifted. I don't write any of this to deter you. I'm sure you'll get mostly good results. You should just be aware of some of the issues ahead of time. One thing I didn't mention is blowing and brushing off the scanner glass before you put new negatives into the scanner. Just leaving the scanner lid open for a few minutes will create an opportunity for dust to land on it, and it does. You don't want to scan that.
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All of my film were processed by Kodak labs, I can't say the same for the others & some of theirs were Advantix canisters that I can't convert. A lot of my film was Kodachrome 25 & those I sent out to ScanCafe. Great info, thanks.

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Sep 26, 2021 13:37:18   #
PGJR Loc: 33868
 
Stan Fayer wrote:
If you donโ€™t have a scanner i have used a light table and photographed the negative. Downloaded the photo of the negative and in Photo (Apple) , edit I am able to reverse a negative either b&w or color. In the curves section reverse the outside bars and the photo will go from negative to positive.
Stan


Thanks Stan Fayer, I do simple adjustments in Photo. I don't like Preview though, it changes the Date Created even when I don't edit the photo. I don't have the room for a light table.

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Sep 26, 2021 14:20:37   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
As others have suggested, a film scanner is the better way to go. I'll add that Epson scanners are the better-rated scanners out there. Just make sure that it will handle the format of the film you wish to scan.

As for software to drive the scanner, each comes with its own. However, Silverfast ( chttps://www.silverfast.com ) is a far better driver than that software provided by the manufacturers.
--Bob
PGJR wrote:
I don't know which forum to ask this. Is it possible to convert film negatives to positives at home? If so, what do I need & how do I do it? I just want to clearly see who or what's on them. I don't have PS or LR but I do have Affinity.
Thanks, Paul

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Sep 26, 2021 14:27:48   #
PGJR Loc: 33868
 
rmalarz wrote:
As others have suggested, a film scanner is the better way to go. I'll add that Epson scanners are the better-rated scanners out there. Just make sure that it will handle the format of the film you wish to scan.

As for software to drive the scanner, each comes with its own. However, Silverfast ( chttps://www.silverfast.com ) is a far better driver than that software provided by the manufacturers.
--Bob


Thanks, I'll check it out.

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Sep 26, 2021 14:34:47   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
PGJR wrote:
All of my film were processed by Kodak labs, I can't say the same for the others & some of theirs were Advantix canisters that I can't convert. A lot of my film was Kodachrome 25 & those I sent out to ScanCafe. Great info, thanks.


You can easily get the film out of Advantix cannisters. The problem with scanning may be the non-standard size of the film. It is 24mm wide, not as wide as 35mm film where the frames are 24mm wide on the film. The actual frames on the Advantix film are even narrower. I don't think you'd get this film to fit well into a 35mm negative holder on a scanner. You may have to cut the film as well, meaning you couldn't just roll it back into the cannister. There may be a service somewhere that could scan this film for you.

How to get it out.

http://www.camerahacker.com/extract_APS_film/index.php

Information on film and frame dimensions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Photo_System

Note that if you were using the method of photographing you negatives, the difference in dimensions would be irrelevant, but you already said that you don't have the equipment for doing that.

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Sep 26, 2021 14:57:00   #
PGJR Loc: 33868
 
Thanks for the information but I won't try to work with Advantix films.

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Sep 26, 2021 16:12:29   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Johnnyt wrote:
If you donโ€™t mind a little graininess and you have an iphone, ipad and a digital camera that is macro capable. You will also need a tripod. I made a setup to hold the photo and then you can take the photo with the camera. For the negatives you can use an iphone to illuminate them. The ipad is used to focus on the negatives. The ipad must be camera invert capable. You make a template to make it so only one negative is illuminated for the photo. you should put a piece of glass on top of the negative to flatten it. You put the Iphone under the wood base with the photo lined up under the hole so you can focus on it with the ipad or/and the camera. Then you put the setup(like the one I made) it is simple to make. on top of the iphone and photo. Put the ipad on it (in classic invert mode) You put the camera on the tripod and put it into macro mode, turn off the image stabilization.then using delayed shutter take the photo.You can edit it in photos on ipad or whatever you want.
You can use the same setup for b/w , color negatives. You can use it for copying slides without the ipad, using the iphone or whatever you have. The program I use to illuminate the negatives and slides is isoftbox on the iphone. I do not know what Android uses.
I am going to include some photos of my setup.
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Sep 26, 2021 16:37:04   #
lnl Loc: SWFL
 
therwol wrote:
You can easily get the film out of Advantix cannisters. The problem with scanning may be the non-standard size of the film. It is 24mm wide, not as wide as 35mm film where the frames are 24mm wide on the film. The actual frames on the Advantix film are even narrower. I don't think you'd get this film to fit well into a 35mm negative holder on a scanner. You may have to cut the film as well, meaning you couldn't just roll it back into the cannister. There may be a service somewhere that could scan this film for you.

How to get it out.

http://www.camerahacker.com/extract_APS_film/index.php

Information on film and frame dimensions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Photo_System

Note that if you were using the method of photographing you negatives, the difference in dimensions would be irrelevant, but you already said that you don't have the equipment for doing that.
You can easily get the film out of Advantix cannis... (show quote)


Negative Solutions (a company name) makes holders for Advantix film negatives for the Epson V600 scanner. You can find them on Amazon or Google the name for their website. They also make other size negative holders.

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