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Sep 18, 2021 16:40:12   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Wuligal wrote:
You said: Why is there an ID issue with v****g?
1. for the same reason you need ID to register for food stamps and welfare
2. for the same reason you need ID to get a drivers license
3. for the same reason you need ID to get a beautician license.
4. for the same reason you need ID to get an "easy pass"
5. for the same reason you need ID to cash a check at Walmarts
6. for the same reason you need ID to register for pre school and kindergarten
7. for the same reason you need ID to join the military
8. for the same reason you need ID to open a bank account
9. for the same reason you need ID to get a passport
10. for the same reason you need ID to create a living will
11. for the same reason you need ID to create a living trust
12. for the same reason you need ID to get a bank loan
13. for the same reason you need ID to get on an airplane
14. for the same reason you need ID to get a death certificate
15. for the same reason you need ID to get a marriage license
16. for the same reason you need ID to become a security officer
17. for the same reason you need ID to get health insurance
18. for the same reason you need ID to get a CDL
19. for the same reason you need ID to go to flight school
20. for the same reason you need ID to purchase certain medications
21. for the same reason you need ID to get out patient care at a hospital
22. for the same reason you need ID to donate blood
23. for the same reason you need ID to purchase a gun or ammunition
24. for the same reason you need ID to register for SS benefits
25. for the same reason you need ID to make use of a pawn shop
26. for the same reason you need ID to conduct any form of business with the court system
27. for the same reason you need ID to receive unemployment benefits
28. for the same reason you need ID to visit any school or campus
29. for the same reason you need ID to adopt a child
29. for the same reason you need ID to check in with a probation officer
30. for the same reason you need ID to obtain auto insurance
31. for the same reason you need ID at a traffic stop.
32. for the same reason you need ID to pick up a package at a post office
33. for the same reason you need ID FOR ALL UNION V****G
34. for the same reason you need ID to obtain citizenship

EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN RECEIVES THEIR FIRST IDENTIFICATION AT BIRTH ALONG WITH THEIR LIFELONG SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE RETIRED AT DEATH WHEN YOUR DEATH CERTIFICATE IS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE.

Almost everything you do in life requires some form of photo ID. Can you give me a concrete reason why v****g should be the singular exception? And that invalid v**er ID in Pennsylvania was one that we know of. There is no way to account for any other because we both know ID IS NOT REQUIRED TO V**E IN PENNSYLVANIA! In fact, it is against regulations for a poll worker to ask for any type of ID in Pennsylvania.

As for not everyone being able to drive to the DMV, below are listed accepted methods of ID.Confirmation issued by the county V***r R**********n Office
Non-photo ID issued by the commonwealth
Non-photo ID issued by the U.S. government
Firearm permit
Current utility bill
Current bank statement
Current paycheck
Government check
ID issued by the U.S. government
U.S. passport
U.S. armed forces ID
Student ID
Employee ID

Now give me one valid reason why v**er ID is "too difficult" for some people to get. Name me one single living, breathing American citizen that does not have some form of ID. One, just one. I'm waiting- but remember, I said American citizen.


By the way, The US is one of 16 countries out of 195 that does not have national identity cards.
You said: Why is there an ID issue with v****g? br... (show quote)


When I was in school we were taught that not having to "show our papers" was one of the things that made us different than the USSR, East Germany, etc.

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Sep 18, 2021 16:49:23   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
thom w wrote:
When did they start issuing SS cards at birth?


Only people with jobs and a social security card can v**e, didn’t you know that.

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Sep 18, 2021 19:15:30   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Because we do not have to. Where in the constitution does it say an ID is necessary?



Common sense tells us that there are thousands of things that are not in the Constitution but are now an indispensable part of modern life:


There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have birth certificates.
There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have background checks to purchase a gun.
There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have death certificates.
There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have drivers licences.
There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have C***d19 v*****e cards
There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have clearance for government workers

We both know the list is endless. V**er ID just one of thousands of protective measures we use to maintain order and and lawfulness in our society that is not mentioned in the Constitution.

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Sep 18, 2021 19:20:21   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Wuligal wrote:
Common sense tells us that there are thousands of things that are not in the Constitution but are now an indispensable part of modern life:


There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have birth certificates.
There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have background checks to purchase a gun.
There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have death certificates.
There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have drivers licences.
There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have C***d19 v*****e cards
There's no place in the Constitution that says we have to have clearance for government workers

We both know the list is endless. V**er ID just one of thousands of protective measures we use to maintain order and and lawfulness in our society that is not mentioned in the Constitution.
Common sense tells us that there are thousands of ... (show quote)


So you say, again Repukes are taking away freedoms faster than their friends the Taliban.

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Sep 18, 2021 19:40:01   #
BadPhoto Loc: Maryland
 
thom w wrote:
When did they start issuing SS cards at birth?


Not only that, there are many older people that do not have birth certificates, and cannot obtain birth certificates because they weren't issued or because the government offices burned down.

One of the main issues is that some IDs are legislated as not valid for v**er ID in these states. A gun license can be, a student ID cannot.

The ID requirements have been written to specifically disenfranchise poor people, especially minorities, as well as students. They are targeted at a mostly Democrat group.

In addition, these v**er ID laws frequently do not provide funding to enable everyone to obtain a v**er ID.

A national v**er ID could be done; just allow any registered v**er to provide any identification and issue the ID at polling places. Provide the ID with any v***r r**********n. It's as simple as a social security card. But it needs to be phased in, and not dumped on the public with little time or support.

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Sep 18, 2021 19:54:47   #
Wuligal Loc: Slippery Rock, Pa.
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So you say, again Repukes are taking away freedoms faster than their friends the Taliban.

There is a difference between Licence and Freedom. The former is "to behave as one wishes, especially in a way that results in excessive or unacceptable behavior. The latter is ,"the absence of subjection to foreign domination or despotic government. Free requires responsibility to maintain it."

No v**er ID is Licence for corruption. V**er ID is acting in a responsible manner.

By the way, it's your buddy Mr. Biden that has cozied up to the Taliban. Not me.

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Sep 18, 2021 20:05:01   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Wuligal wrote:
There is a difference between Licence and Freedom. The former is "to behave as one wishes, especially in a way that results in excessive or unacceptable behavior. The latter is ,"the absence of subjection to foreign domination or despotic government. Free requires responsibility to maintain it."

No v**er ID is Licence for corruption. V**er ID is acting in a responsible manner.

By the way, it's your buddy Mr. Biden that has cozied up to the Taliban. Not me.


Blah, blah, blah. Simple to see, Repukes are taking away freedoms. Sounds similar to Taliban. What are they scared of ?

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Sep 18, 2021 20:09:18   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Blah, blah, blah. Simple to see, Repukes are taking away freedoms. Sounds similar to Taliban. What are they scared of ?


Fearmongering.

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Sep 18, 2021 21:31:21   #
scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
There are hundreds of areas that do not have rural w****s, there are hundreds of areas where there are rural w****s complaining about lack of good internet and phone service. Examples: Lineville, Iowa or Quartzite, Arizona. Two of hundreds with complaints of bad or no internet and phone coverage. Peddle your r****m somewhere else, it gets old quick.


Those areas don't have rural b****s either. You're your own worst enemy while trying to defend your typical liberal r****t mindset. You liberals while trying to prove you're not r****t but conservatives are, are proof of just the opposite. Funny how that works. You put b****s in a lowly catagory and profess to want to help. You are the problem with r****m in the world. Sad you don't see that.

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Sep 18, 2021 21:40:17   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
scooter1 wrote:
Those areas don't have rural b****s either. You're your own worst enemy while trying to defend your typical liberal r****t mindset. You liberals while trying to prove you're not r****t but conservatives are, are proof of just the opposite. Funny how that works. You put b****s in a lowly catagory and profess to want to help. You are the problem with r****m in the world. Sad you don't see that.


Almost funny that you forget about Native Americans. Still no good answer as to why you are comfortable with areas of Iowa or Arizona with inadequate internet, guess you don’t mind if they are white.

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Sep 20, 2021 00:14:38   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So you only look at black people in New York. No answer from the millions in Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi and Louisiana. Typical select repuke.


Every one of my African American friends and neighbors I had when I lived in GA had knowledge of the internet and internet capable devices.
This was in spite of the fact that I was living in bulloch county which is not exactly modernized.
But the county seat is a public wifi hotspot for everyone.
This was over ten years ago.
The city of Statesboro had free wifi from every public building as well as 1gig wired fiber-optic internet.
This is something that is only just now coming to middle TN.

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Sep 20, 2021 02:13:51   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
chikid68 wrote:
Every one of my African American friends and neighbors I had when I lived in GA had knowledge of the internet and internet capable devices.
This was in spite of the fact that I was living in bulloch county which is not exactly modernized.
But the county seat is a public wifi hotspot for everyone.
This was over ten years ago.
The city of Statesboro had free wifi from every public building as well as 1gig wired fiber-optic internet.
This is something that is only just now coming to middle TN.
Every one of my African American friends and neigh... (show quote)



Knowledge of and daily use are two different things. Public buildings are not same as private homes.

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Sep 20, 2021 06:23:45   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Knowledge of and daily use are two different things. Public buildings are not same as private homes.


They all used the internet daily and in fact still do.
It's sad that you just blindly believe and accept what they are feeding you.
If you don't think that black people are capable of using the internet just browse through any social media site for a given area and see for yourself .

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Sep 20, 2021 07:09:23   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
chikid68 wrote:
They all used the internet daily and in fact still do.
It's sad that you just blindly believe and accept what they are feeding you.
If you don't think that black people are capable of using the internet just browse through any social media site for a given area and see for yourself .


Only you say they cannot use the internet. Why should they be inconvenienced on v**e or be educated anymore than you are.

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Sep 20, 2021 07:21:45   #
chikid68 Loc: Tennesse USA
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
Only you say they cannot use the internet. Why should they be inconvenienced on v**e or be educated anymore than you are.


mjmoore17 wrote:
So you only look at black people in New York. No answer from the millions in Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi and Louisiana. Typical select repuke
Your words not mine regarding the original post.
This was your implications that black people in other places did have or couldn't use the internet.
I was the one stating from first hand experience that they not only can but do regularly.
Do you always try to twist the t***h to align with your thoughts or are you just too ignorant to remember what you said.

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