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This is a handout that I came up with for one of my photography classes I teach
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Sep 14, 2021 10:01:25   #
User ID
 
srt101fan wrote:
Agree about the downside of too much "techno". I'm still hoping there is a way to explain things simply without introducing falsehoods....

EZPZ ...

Digital ISO is like turning up the gain on an audio recorder. It’s definitely not the same as moving the mic closer to the source or making the source louder.

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No analogy is perfect, but this one holds up decently. If you over crank the gain in the recorder you get distortion. If you over crank your ISO you get noise. If your mic is far from the source and you increase gain (but short of distortion) you lose the sense of immediacy. If conditions call for higher ISO you lose dynamic range.

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Sep 14, 2021 10:01:47   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
grandpaw wrote:
I have posted this before but it may help a lot of new photographers understand their camera settings.


I think it is good, as long as it is explained. As most are saying, iso does not change the amount of light, but sensitivity to. Just as in the old days, it was the same for film. Iso is one side of the triangle, and we adjust the other two, ss and f-stop for the exposure we want. I look at it as, set the iso first (like putting the film in the camera), then adjusting the other two. The BIG advantage of digital is we can change iso (film) instantly for the conditions.

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Sep 14, 2021 11:15:24   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
CamB wrote:
.....Getting the exposure and results right for the artist in you is more important, especially for beginners....


That can be used as a starting point, which is what I'd do. "Results" in this case would mean the captured image before any post processing. Most of the following applies to both film and digital, but the focus is on digital, which will be the main interest of most people learning photography today.

Getting the exposure right:-

Too bright = overexposed. Too dark = underexposed.

There are two things that determine the exposure -

1) The amount of captured light.

2) The amount of amplification that the sensor signal is given in-camera (digital only).

The two factors that determine the amount of captured light are:-

1) The size of the aperture (i.e. the f-stop).

2) The duration of the exposure (i.e. the shutter speed).

- where a wider aperture (a lower f-stop) and a slower shutter speed both increase the amount of captured light.

Capturing more light results in a brighter exposure because it results in a stronger signal from the camera's sensor. However, that can be overdone because the sensor has limits which can be exceeded, resulting in what is referred to as "blown highlights" (a phenomenon also referred to as the sensor becoming saturated).

Increasing the ISO brightens the captured image, and that is achieved by electronically amplifying the sensor's signal. However, noise, which is inherent in the sensor's signal, is also amplified along with the signal, which is why the use of high ISOs (i.e. the use of high amplification) results in an increase in noise. The "noise" manifests as a graininess in the captured image, and in extreme cases it causes noticeable softness and a loss of colour accuracy.

Some cameras are more prone to high ISO noise than others. More recent cameras are generally better than older models, but it is also true that some camera brands are better than others when it comes to high ISO performance. Even within a single brand, the cameras are not all equal, but all cameras have an upper ISO limit beyond which the ISO noise will be seen as unacceptable.

At this point the explanation has already covered the basics of the exposure triangle and also covered the need to avoid blown highlights and high ISO noise. And that has been achieved with the minimum of "techno".

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Sep 14, 2021 11:36:58   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
User ID wrote:
EZPZ ...

Digital ISO is like turning up the gain on an audio recorder. It’s definitely not the same as moving the mic closer to the source or making the source louder.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

No analogy is perfect, but this one holds up decently. If you over crank the gain in the recorder you get distortion. If you over crank your ISO you get noise. If your mic is far from the source and you increase gain (but short of distortion) you lose the sense of immediacy. If conditions call for higher ISO you lose dynamic range.
EZPZ ... br br Digital ISO is like turning up the... (show quote)


Maybe it helps you relate to it and that’s ok. But No it is definitely not the same. Additional random noise is not the same as distortion introduced by clipping. Very different effects.

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Sep 14, 2021 13:39:18   #
Gallopingphotog
 
This looks very useful for entry-level shooters. Myself I don't see the need for a big explanation of what ISO is/does at this point. It's liable to just confuse a newbie. They need to know that ISO affects light, and how it affects/is affected by the other two controls. But I think the technical stuff can wait a bit.

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Sep 14, 2021 13:44:43   #
RCJets Loc: Virginia
 
rmalarz wrote:
The bottom statement is misleading. The aperture and shutter speed are the factors that affect the amount of light entering the camera. ISO is not related to that.
--Bob


Can you say that one step increase, or decrease of ISO, changes the sensitivity by a factor of two, either + or - as would one of the other two factors? In other words, would going from ISO 200 to ISO 400 would have about the same effect of going from f2.8 to f1.4?

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Sep 14, 2021 13:50:29   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yep.
HOHIMER wrote:
How about this:
Moving one step to the left on any of these three settings will double the amount of light detected by your camera.
One step to the right on any of these three settings will cut the light detected by your camera by half.

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Sep 14, 2021 13:51:07   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
As I stated earlier:
Exposure is simply the amount of light and the duration, aperture and shutter speed.
Photographic Exposure is the, above-referenced, amount of light falling on a photosensitive material. That's where ISO comes into play.
--Bob

RCJets wrote:
Can you say that one step increase, or decrease of ISO, changes the sensitivity by a factor of two, either + or - as would one of the other two factors? In other words, would going from ISO 200 to ISO 400 would have about the same effect of going from f2.8 to f1.4?

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Sep 14, 2021 14:22:32   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
RCJets wrote:
Can you say that one step increase, or decrease of ISO, changes the sensitivity by a factor of two, either + or - as would one of the other two factors? In other words, would going from ISO 200 to ISO 400 would have about the same effect of going from f2.8 to f1.4?


ISO is a linear scale, so if you want a doubling you literally have to double the number. For example, going from 200 to 400 is one stop (a doubling), and going from 400 to 800 is one stop.

F-stops are an exponential scale, so each step indicates a doubling. For example, going from f/2.8 to f/2.2 is a doubling (of the aperture) and going from f/2.2 to f/1.4 is a doubling. The f-stop steps are 1, 1.4, 2, 2.8, 4, 5.6, 8, 11, 16, 22 etc. As you can see, the steps aren't evenly sized, but they do each represent 1 stop. So going from f/1.4 to f/2.8 represents a jump of 2 stops.

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Sep 14, 2021 14:33:12   #
Abo
 
R.G. wrote:
ISO is a linear scale, so if you want a doubling you literally have to double the number. For example, going from 200 to 400 is one stop (a doubling), and going from 400 to 800 is one stop.

F-stops are an exponential scale, so each step indicates a doubling. For example, going from f/2.8 to f/2.2 is a doubling (of the aperture) and going from f/2.2 to f/1.4 is a doubling. The f-stop steps are 1, 1.4, 2, 2.8, 4, 5.6, 8, 11, 16, 22 etc. As you can see, the steps aren't evenly sized, but they do each represent 1 stop. So going from f/1.4 to f/2.8 represents a jump of 2 stops.
ISO is a linear scale, so if you want a doubling y... (show quote)



Can you tell us RG, in the immortal words of Professor Julius Sumner Miller; "why is it so?" vis a vis
your aperture commentary.

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Sep 14, 2021 14:34:02   #
BebuLamar
 
rmalarz wrote:
As I stated earlier:
Exposure is simply the amount of light and the duration, aperture and shutter speed.
Photographic Exposure is the, above-referenced, amount of light falling on a photosensitive material. That's where ISO comes into play.
--Bob


If two people sunbathing at the same location and at the same time. The two people receive the same exposure to sunlight although one of them has a serious sunburn and the other one is not. That doesn't mean the one with sunburn got more exposure to sunlight.

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Sep 14, 2021 14:44:32   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Charlie157 wrote:
My opinion, for what its worth, is that I so does affect the light coming into the camera. If you meter in on a subject the values of both the shutter speed and aperture have a certain value. Change the iso the values of the shutter and aperture changes.


Aperture and shutter speed affect the amount of light that hits the sensor. Changing the ISO will brighten or darken your image without affecting the amount of light that reaches the sensor. It's kind of like turning the volume up on a radio.

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Sep 14, 2021 14:57:48   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
RCJets wrote:
Can you say that one step increase, or decrease of ISO, changes the sensitivity by a factor of two, either + or - as would one of the other two factors? In other words, would going from ISO 200 to ISO 400 would have about the same effect of going from f2.8 to f1.4?


Yes in theory that is how it works. In practice you get more noise going from ISO 200 to ISO 400 (one stop). And if going from F2.8 to f1.4 (one stop) you get a decrease in depth of field. But both yield the same increase in exposure value (EV).

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Sep 14, 2021 15:00:18   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
Bill_de wrote:
Aperture and shutter speed affect the amount of light that hits the sensor. Changing the ISO will brighten or darken your image without affecting the amount of light that reaches the sensor. It's kind of like turning the volume up on a radio.

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I like this answer. Cuts to the chase simply. Teaching to those new to photography is all about simple and easy to understand. Techno comes later (if at all)
…Cam

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Sep 14, 2021 15:04:23   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Abo wrote:
Can you tell us RG, in the immortal words of Professor Julius Sumner Miller; "why is it so?" vis a vis
your aperture commentary.


Because
f-stop = focal length / aperture_diameter

But light is proportional to the area of the aperture opening and

Area = pi/4 x diameter_squared

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