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Sep 6, 2021 16:45:50   #
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GerryER wrote:
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........ in any case, a cell phone is good for what it was originally designed for, making phone calls, and not really that good for that purpose. .............

The best phone is the one you have with you ... “

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Sep 6, 2021 17:28:58   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
rkaminer wrote:
I can’t tell the difference of your pictures. I love my 12 pro Max. It’s with me all the time. I also love better my Nikon Z. But since I can’t fit into my back pocket, most of my casual pictures are with the iPhone. When I carry both cameras I use the Z. Then when I put the pictures all together, I am not sure which pictures came from which camera; therefore both cameras win.


The Pro Max is scary good. A female friend shot this the other day!


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Sep 6, 2021 18:07:09   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The Pro Max is scary good. A female friend shot this the other day!


Spectacularly eye-catching capture
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Sep 6, 2021 18:10:30   #
GerryER Loc: Virginia USA
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The Pro Max is scary good. A female friend shot this the other day!


I believe someone said that they are good until you try to enlarge them past a certain point and then the deficiencies start to show up. Makes sense.

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Sep 6, 2021 18:31:44   #
Gallimaufry Loc: Denver, CO
 
GerryER wrote:
I believe someone said that they are good until you try to enlarge them past a certain point and then the deficiencies start to show up. Makes sense.


It makes sense only if you believe it makes sense. Or, anything you believe is true.

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Sep 6, 2021 18:36:35   #
LEWHITE7747 Loc: 33773
 
GerryER wrote:
I believe someone said that they are good until you try to enlarge them past a certain point and then the deficiencies start to show up. Makes sense.


The still look good on 20 x 30 acrylic on her wall. Bo figure?

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Sep 6, 2021 18:53:00   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The Pro Max is scary good. A female friend shot this the other day!


Who cares what the camera was.... Gorgeous capture !

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Sep 6, 2021 18:57:26   #
rkaminer Loc: New York, NY
 
GerryER wrote:
I believe someone said that they are good until you try to enlarge them past a certain point and then the deficiencies start to show up. Makes sense.


Most of the time pictures from a phone do not get enlarged past that certain point. But I must confess, that “certain point” is way past the needs of most of the pictures we display.

Therefore I don’t think that the limitations of enlarging a picture from a phone is an obstacle.

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Sep 6, 2021 20:00:31   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
NikonRocks wrote:
The biggest problem I have using cellphones to take photos/videos - we call them "mobile phones here in OZ" - is holding the device steady enough whilst I fumble for the shutter release whereas a "dslr" is designed from the get-go to be held easily and comfortably in tricky positions. Its buttons are placed in functional areas of the camera body such that taking a photo is a no brainer.

After all, the cellphone's main job is to make/take calls and is designed to be held for that primary purpose. Nevertheless, the technology being built into them is simply amazing for doing other tasks alongside taking photos.

They are becoming the "Jack of all trades" and master of none!
The biggest problem I have using cellphones to tak... (show quote)

What I do with my cell is to use the built in timer delay for either 2 or 5 sec. The count down gives plenty of time to stabilize the camera. Obviously a moving target is going to be more difficult

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Sep 8, 2021 06:42:53   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Okay, let us know what you find.

In my experience, I see my Android phone taking good snapshots with its camera, not unlike your experience.
genocolo wrote:
Actually when I selected the four photos out of many, I thought I was including two taken with the Canon. When I went back to double-check the answer yesterday, I found that all four were taken with the IPhone.

Again, I am not saying that it is better than the Canon. I have some terrific bird and wildlife shots (enlarged and framed) that could not have been taken with the IPhone. But as far as documenting our summer trips and providing content for the slideshows and movies of the trips, the IPhone was perfect—super convenient and high quality.

I also understand and appreciate the point that many commenters made that the iphone photos may not be suitable for enlarging. But I would rarely enlarge and hang such photos because of the restrictions of our wall sizes and our other artwork. But just out of curiosity I think I will try to enlarge a few of these to 16x20 and see how they turn out.
Actually when I selected the four photos out of ma... (show quote)

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Sep 9, 2021 00:20:38   #
baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
rkaminer wrote:
Most of the time pictures from a phone do not get enlarged past that certain point. But I must confess, that “certain point” is way past the needs of most of the pictures we display.

Therefore I don’t think that the limitations of enlarging a picture from a phone is an obstacle.


It is a limitation for photographers that want to enlarge (or deeply crop) photos as well as for clients that may want the professional work that they commission to be of a quality that it can be made large.

There are other limitations like inferior DR and virtually infinite DOF - yes computational photography can 'fake' a shallower DOF (although not that well yet - but it will in time) but that is to say nothing of large sensor cameras in the future making use of all the same computational 'tricks' that phones use today.

All things being equal - i.e. same tech - the larger sensor is simply better - this is physics and not an opinion - same can be said for large professional optics versus small phone lenses.

All this said, yes phones are certainly very good for the average person who wants to take snap shots whereever they go and who may on occasion get one that is a wall hanger (so long as they only size it for a desk top print).

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Sep 14, 2021 03:52:09   #
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LEWHITE7747 wrote:
The Pro Max is scary good. A female friend shot this the other day!

It’s occasionally amazing what females can occasionally do, isn’t it ;-)
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Sep 14, 2021 11:40:44   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
gessman wrote:
There are a lot of times when a cell phone does equal to a dslr or milc at a low level of functionality that doesn't put much of a demand on the results but one on one there are very few situations where my cell phone camera in my hands will produce an equal to or better shot than a dslr or milc - that's my experience and I use apps that give me more than default control of my cell camera. My biggest disappointment in using my "new" 4k cell camera is when I shot 4k video at a special family occasion and tried to look at it on a 65" 4k tv. That may very well be the ultimate test but if you have done that then you understand where the argument begins to find disfavor with the cell camera. When I go out shooting I don't want to have to wonder at what point my results will start to fall apart. As for your test, I wouldn't wager a cent on my ability to tell which were cell shots but frankly, I probably wouldn't bother to shoot those shots with any kind of camera. While nice enough, they are not within the scope of my interest range.
There are a lot of times when a cell phone does eq... (show quote)

Standard HD TV's are normally 1920x1080. A 55" or a standard 28" screen matters not, and all cell phones take much larger resolution than 1920x1080, so regardless of what camera you shoot with, the photo needs resized to 1920x1080 or that aspect ratio. In television and consumer media, 3840 × 2160 is the dominant 4K standard. About all cell phones today take more than that, so even for 4k TV you will need to make the photo smaller for 4k TV. 4k movies I don't know, but suspect similar resolution and aspect ratios apply.

All my good photo's are displayed on 55" TV and no one could possibly tell if they came from my "real" cameras or a cell phone.

To the OP, no one could possibly know what type of camera was used on his 4 pictures. If I resized them for 1920x1080 for display on any of my 1920x1080 screens, NO ONE could tell which came from a cell or a DSLR.

Not saying one camera is the same as the other, but for Digital display, you lose nothing with the cell. Which is better always depends, they both have important qualities that the other doesn't have, and it depends on what is important to you at the moment.

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Sep 14, 2021 12:05:30   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
GerryER wrote:
I hope you are being facetious here!!

And in any case, a cell phone is good for what it was originally designed for, making phone calls, and not really that good for that purpose. Anything else is a secondary bonus.

Of the many functions of a cell "phone" using it as a phone is probably the least used function, and your right, it's not all that good at it.
Kids under 50 seem to use text far more than the phone to communicate.
Kids over 80 seem to not have one, or think it's for emergency use only...

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Sep 14, 2021 12:09:42   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
User ID wrote:
The best phone is the one you have with you ... “


Good one.

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