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Aug 13, 2021 06:15:51   #
nison777 Loc: illinois u.s.a.
 
I was a tester for it when it first came out years ago...
I had much trouble with the software workflows...
Ended up buying a copy hoping things were easier some years later...
It's kind of ok..
I still prefer Photoshop for everything i am accustomed to doing...
If you like Lightroom i think that is just fine for you... I think you should enjoy it... To each is her or his own...

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Aug 13, 2021 06:32:16   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
JD750 wrote:
As said in posts above, yes you can export multiples.

First, select the ones you want to export then LR will export all of the selected photos. 12,000 is a lot you might want to do that in stages.

If you only a want images that have been adjusted you can filter for that.


My catalog has 94,000+ images and a collection that is my digital frame with 10,000+ images. Refreshing the frame is a mass export. It runs about 3-hours to process this 10K collection to refresh the frame.

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Aug 13, 2021 07:31:27   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JD750 wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I favor putting instructions in my will, to bury my hard drives and computer with me. My heirs don’t want to see the images when I am alive so they missed their chance. 🤣 And then I can use them in the afterlife. 😉


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Aug 13, 2021 09:59:25   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
pego101 wrote:
I love lightroon !!!!!!



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Aug 13, 2021 10:15:18   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
My catalog has 94,000+ images and a collection that is my digital frame with 10,000+ images. Refreshing the frame is a mass export. It runs about 3-hours to process this 10K collection to refresh the frame.


Impressive!

I’m curious what is under the hood of that digital hot rod?

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Aug 13, 2021 14:37:36   #
DJon41 Loc: Utah
 
Longshadow wrote:
My thoughts -
I don't use catalogers like in LR or PS. More trouble than they are worth, to me.
I use File Explorer and my photo directory structure as my "catalog".
I either double-click on an image in Explorer, having a default editor assigned to that extension, or right-mouse click and "Open With" to select an editor.
I normally don't open an editor then go looking for something to edit. I peruse the images in Explorer.

Floats my boat.....


Exactly! I can't get my head around LR.

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Aug 13, 2021 14:55:46   #
pego101
 
Raptor wrote:
Im at photo workshop in Maine. Im learning to use PS. One of the participants, very accomplished, feels the same way about LR catalog system as I do. My workflow is very simple and I have a good organizational system on my external drive. I want to ditch LR and use Bridge (browser capability) and Adobe Camera Raw. I understand It can do most of what LR can do. I don't batch edit. I also use Luminar 4 and am learning PS. Also I won't have to worry about LR losing photos or not recognizing a drive. Your thoughts? In an earlier post I thought my master photo disk was corrupted. It was an LR issue. I don't want this ajada.
Im at photo workshop in Maine. Im learning to use... (show quote)


Never had any problem with lightroom been using for years . Wonderful program . Ajada

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Aug 13, 2021 15:48:55   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
pego101 wrote:
Never had any problem with lightroom been using for years . Wonderful program . Ajada


I have also been using Light Room(s) for years, since June of 2015 when Apple discontinued support for Aperture.
And I have had my share of problems with Lightroom!

However when it comes to cataloging software I am reminded of a quote that is often attributed to Winston Churchill: “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.”

For me, for cataloging and retouching software, that quote definitely applies to LR.

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Aug 13, 2021 19:04:10   #
coullone Loc: Paynesville, Victoria, Australia
 
Like many photographers my system dates back 30 and more years.
Before computers handwritten journals with details and a photo number with a code linked to 5" x 8" index card of Client and job details.
When Aperture was first was released used it on a Mac and that worked reasonably well. When it was discontinued ran LR & PS for a few months. Complete disaster, Mutli copies of over 20,000 images from scans and cameras. Took ages to clean-up, thought I had not followed the set up correctly so purchased a copy of Lightroom CC/6 and Victoria Brampton' book "The Missing FAQ" -596 pages of it!
Followed her suggestions to the letter and it was better BUT still a lousy sytem. Cleaned up again (another weeks work) and abandon LS. Kept PS which I have used since Photoshop 5 (a big investment in those days).
Currently using a custom system I wrote and have changed to Affinity which is faster and designed for the photographer not graphic artists as Photoshop now is.
Perfect system? No, but best I can find or program at the moment. Now got over 30,000 images and I can find by date, subject, country, city, client or even the camera used although some of my early photos were only notated by neg of transparency size, from 35mm to half plate film (film was a wooden Gandolfi with a 8" war surplus lens aero- Kodak Ektar which cost me 5 Pounds back in 1960).
Now only take a thousand photos a year so slowed down.
Current Cameras -Canon EOS RP, Nikon 3400 (light) and Olympus OM-D EM10II plus many Film cameras up to 6 x 9 cm. about 20 lenes in all.
Why so many photos? - lots of Gravestone, Vehicle, Aircraft, Ships, Portraits, Industrial and family in order of images.

CHG_CANON wrote:
If it makes more sense to you to waste your limited time creating complex and information-laden folders and file names instead of embedding all that same data and the time doing it inside the LR catalog, software you pay to use, well it's your time and money to use (not use) as you please.

LR lets you use the simplest folders and file names such as "YYYYMMDD <Description>" for your folders and retain the original 12345678.xxx file names, The files don't mean anything until the LR edit data is merged with the original image and "export" to a target file. Worry about renaming the files, if needed, when you export the edited version.

The effort spent trying to 'describe' the images via complex folders and / or file names just needs to instead be performed inside LR so you can find those images instantaneously via the catalog search / filtering. You don't have to remember your shooting dates, just put that descriptive data into the keywords.

The reality of using a database to access your images is you just have to behave differently. You access your images via LR, not the computer OS / file system. Use a simple file system that uniquely organizes the images and don't spend time trying to move the images around afterward. LR is much more efficient and capable. Yes, it's different. It's modern-ish. Just like LR is superior to ACR. If you don't want to use the most popular software in the industry to work smarter and faster, it's your choice and your loss (and your money).

The point is: yes, it's critical to organize and identify your images. The LR catalog is the way to do this entirely inside a searchable database, again with much more robust tools and capabilities vs the OS file system. Yes, penmanship was important. But today, your typing speed and accuracy is the relevant skill. Both are communication skills, but one doesn't really matter anymore. That's the same as the unimportance of folders and filenames in the modern LR environment.
If it makes more sense to you to waste your limite... (show quote)

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Aug 13, 2021 19:07:54   #
coullone Loc: Paynesville, Victoria, Australia
 
To all photographers with their own systems including MySQL - Me too, It works!

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Aug 13, 2021 19:57:33   #
Photocraig
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If it makes more sense to you to waste your limited time creating complex and information-laden folders and file names instead of embedding all that same data and the time doing it inside the LR catalog, software you pay to use, well it's your time and money to use (not use) as you please.

LR lets you use the simplest folders and file names such as "YYYYMMDD <Description>" for your folders and retain the original 12345678.xxx file names, The files don't mean anything until the LR edit data is merged with the original image and "export" to a target file. Worry about renaming the files, if needed, when you export the edited version.

The effort spent trying to 'describe' the images via complex folders and / or file names just needs to instead be performed inside LR so you can find those images instantaneously via the catalog search / filtering. You don't have to remember your shooting dates, just put that descriptive data into the keywords.

The reality of using a database to access your images is you just have to behave differently. You access your images via LR, not the computer OS / file system. Use a simple file system that uniquely organizes the images and don't spend time trying to move the images around afterward. LR is much more efficient and capable. Yes, it's different. It's modern-ish. Just like LR is superior to ACR. If you don't want to use the most popular software in the industry to work smarter and faster, it's your choice and your loss (and your money).

The point is: yes, it's critical to organize and identify your images. The LR catalog is the way to do this entirely inside a searchable database, again with much more robust tools and capabilities vs the OS file system. Yes, penmanship was important. But today, your typing speed and accuracy is the relevant skill. Both are communication skills, but one doesn't really matter anymore. That's the same as the unimportance of folders and filenames in the modern LR environment.
If it makes more sense to you to waste your limite... (show quote)


I agree with all you say, but I can't find it 'splained anywhere. No real file layout diagram, no 'splained hierarchy, and no really understandable, by me, tutorials. I like Jim Gray's but it takes forever to get to the point, just about to where I forgot the point that I really wanted to know!

My experience with Adobe, going back decades, since I'm from that Industry, is they're very Apple oriented. That means their intuition has to be the same as mine. And it AIN'T!

So my Catalog, undefined to me as that term is, is flat as a board, and real easy to screw-up.

But I like the sliders, and can process and convert most of what I shoot decently, and WAY better than in the ever smelly dark, so I'm OK!
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