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Aug 3, 2021 23:02:33   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
ebrunner wrote:
The Master in You is an evolution of the monthly Master's Critique. Here we will give you a "topic" each month with some themes to consider. Shoot some images with the topic in mind and then post them in this thread and tell us about them. Where did you shoot the image? What are your concerns and challenges with the image? How much, if any, consideration did you give to gear to get the image you wanted? You might also wish to address the themes that are mentioned along with the topic.

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The original purpose of FYC was to be a "cafe" atmosphere where people gather to discuss topics pertaining to photography. It is hoped that this thread will encourage members to get out and shoot images that pertain to the topic and then enter into a discussion about your posts and the posts of others. This monthly topic is not about : "That is really nice" or "two thumbs up". While these are certainly legitimate responses, the aim of this topical thread is to throw a wider net. It is hoped that we will discuss what works and what does not work so well. If someone's work does not appeal to you, feel free to say so in a way that acknowledges that we all have different ideas about what appeals to us.

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Topic Of The Month , August 2021: "Less Than Pristine "

Theme 1 How do you approach this topic Mechanical decay, industrial, urban decay, or rural buildings falling apart? What do you look for?

Theme 2 Processing: When do you say "too much"? Do you visualize post processing, or let it come to you?


For some time now, I've wanted to shoot the SS United States. This is the fastest Ocean Liner to cross the Atlantic. Her last voyage was in 1969, and she is presently docked in Philadelphia while a conservancy group is trying to invent a future for this once proud ship. The dock area is closed to the public. So, I had to photograph her from the street on the far side of a chain link fence. I wanted the photo to remind the viewer of a bygone era in travel, so I tried to make it look like an old photograph. I should have shot in film; but I did not on this occasion. (Maybe in the future). I did use "film" presets in NIK. I also cloned out the lines that keep the ship from floating away from the dock.

I thought this might be a good example of: "Less Than Pristine". Of course we are interested in discussing this photo; but we also want to see your examples of "Less Than Pristine". From your archives or shot recently, the choice is yours. This topic will remain active for the month of August.

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Another worthy topic, and a very nice image, Erich. It reminds me of vintage postcards from an old collection I have. I would place yours around 1930! The replaced sky is a little intense but that is exactly what they did back in the day with those postcards and stereoscope cards - they watercolored in richer colors and more drama in the skies. I really like this. Great editing.

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Aug 3, 2021 23:04:10   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Photographed in 2020, this is Yakima's Old Cascade Lumber Mill, which closed in 2006.



I do love these old industrial sites, there's so much texture and geometry in the buildings. Neat idea to keep the yellow sign. I seldom do selective color but this is one that it really works out for.

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Aug 3, 2021 23:05:58   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
A stumble-upon scene in my apartment complex a couple of months ago. I was drawn to the light and shadows of early morning, and posted to Exploration of Digital Artistry in color. Jim-Pops suggested black and white, which - as often is the case - resulted in a very different image. I'm hoping folks will think about all the stories these work boots could tell if we listen

(edit - just now am thinking a crop from the bottom might improve. Or do the hanging laces add interest?)

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I like the hanging laces, they add to the "left behind in a hurry" look. Nice processing here, I'll have to look up your color version but I can't believe it would improve on this nice rich conversion.

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Aug 3, 2021 23:10:03   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
edrobinsonjr wrote:
I took this in October of 2017 in one Boise's parks. Every time I come to it I want to do something to it but always end up leaving it alone.

Everything in the image strikes me as old and discarded. The boot has served well but where is it's mate? The old tree trunk and root seems to be commiserating with the boot. Sad.

I have tried cropping several ways but everything seems to belong.

Ed


The scene does look sad and left behind carelessly, including the ragged tree root that's trying to escape the frame. I agree with Erich that there are unlimited possibilities for processing, especially to enhance the detail in that boot which to me resembles a witch's shoe, lost perhaps while flying too low over the tree. But I agree with you that all the elements are needed, and in the places you captured them.

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Aug 3, 2021 23:12:50   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I decided to post this in counterpoint to the USS United States. This old truck has outlived its life expectancy by several generations but here he is still chugging along, proving that being old and rusty does not mean you're dead. Now he has survived being in the wrong place, a picture taker with the wrong lens and an owner who didn't seem excited about having his truck preserved for posterity, he yelled at me in Spanish.

Best I could do Nikon D7200, 70-300 Kit lens, ISO 400, f8 @ 1:1000 and limited access to my subject.
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A fine old truck. There's no better editing fun than an old vehicle like this. Nothing wrong at all with your capture in my view, and the photo looks just fine as it is. But you could spend quite some time playing with this one in a variety of ways with editing choices and make so many different fun versions. Not saying any would be better but there's a lot of different photos hiding in this one.

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Aug 3, 2021 23:15:14   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
cbtsam wrote:
This is a somewhat different interpretation of less than pristine, as the topic is botanical, not mechanical. I hope it is still germane to the monthly topic.

I do a lot of shots of what I call wabi-sabi, seeking to portray the beauty in imperfection, almost always with plants and their flowers.

While I sometimes anticipate what I'll do in post, it is mostly a feel your way kind of thing for me. I think I just know when it's too much, but I rather suspect that just enough for me may be way too much for you! :-) I generally don't care too much about reproducing "reality," as I'm often not sure what that is.

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That's just beautiful - simple, classic beauty. I share your love of the wabi-sabi breed of images, and find myself seeking out flowers that have been nibbled on or frostbitten, rather than the perfect specimens.

Wonderful image.

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Aug 3, 2021 23:16:49   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
Gauss wrote:
I spent a week or so in the upper peninsula of Michigan back in 2016. One day I roamed around Calumet where there a bunch of historic buildings from the long gone mining days. Many are not in use and showing signs of neglect while others are repurposed and in use. Certainly an area rife with subjects of decline. Here is one example.


What an interesting building! Well spotted and captured.

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Aug 3, 2021 23:17:38   #
captivecookie Loc: Washington state
 
The old fridge wasn't keeping things cold, and the old typewriter has seen better days, so I thought I'd put them together. Done on the fly with my Samsung phone and processed with the phone app photoshop express. When I zoomed in I didn't like the noise in the shadows, so I would process it differently if moved to the computer.


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Aug 3, 2021 23:18:24   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
jburlinson wrote:
Has anyone else ever wondered how a blackboard feels after the school day is over and the troublemaking kid who was forced to erase it as punishment duty did a poor job (probably just for spite)?

I typically title my photos and this one is called "Blackboard Singing in the Dead of Night".

As to post-processing, I rarely say "too much". When your subject is a dirty blackboard, it needs all the help it can get.


Your vision and imagination have joined forces here to create a fascinating abstract-ish image.

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Aug 3, 2021 23:26:57   #
minniev Loc: MIssissippi
 
I love taking pictures of imperfect things: old vehicles, abandoned houses, industrial sites from ages gone by, ragged flowers, all of it! My tendency is to edit many of them with a grunge type processing approach. My own old farm gives me quite a few opportunities. This is one of the mystery outbuildings that we aren't sure how old it is or what it was first used for. Posting the original and an edited version meant to look like an old photo.


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Aug 4, 2021 05:12:32   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
minniev wrote:
Another worthy topic, and a very nice image, Erich. It reminds me of vintage postcards from an old collection I have. I would place yours around 1930! The replaced sky is a little intense but that is exactly what they did back in the day with those postcards and stereoscope cards - they watercolored in richer colors and more drama in the skies. I really like this. Great editing.


Thank you. Getting the lines off the ship and "de-cluttering" the image was the most work; but figuring out what to do with the sky caused the most gnashing of teeth. I did not want to go too far; but to match the look of an old photo (my intention) I knew that I would have to be more than just photo realism. Thanks for taking a look.
Erich

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Aug 4, 2021 05:20:56   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
captivecookie wrote:
The old fridge wasn't keeping things cold, and the old typewriter has seen better days, so I thought I'd put them together. Done on the fly with my Samsung phone and processed with the phone app photoshop express. When I zoomed in I didn't like the noise in the shadows, so I would process it differently if moved to the computer.


Like the blackboard, this image caught me by surprise. I did not think that folks would be pulling different elements and putting them together. I figured that there would be a lot of photos of items that had seen better days. Organic as well as man made subjects came to mind. I love that you created an image by combining elements. The information about the phone and the editing are interesting and important. We sometimes lose sight of the fact that it is not important how an image is created. The end result speaks for itself. Lenses, camera types, film sensitivity and settings are only relevant to the photographer who might want to re create a specific look. To the viewer, the image is all that matters.
Erich

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Aug 4, 2021 05:24:01   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
captivecookie wrote:
The old fridge wasn't keeping things cold, and the old typewriter has seen better days, so I thought I'd put them together. Done on the fly with my Samsung phone and processed with the phone app photoshop express. When I zoomed in I didn't like the noise in the shadows, so I would process it differently if moved to the computer.
A super-cool idea. Whimsical, highly engaging to me.

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Aug 4, 2021 05:25:38   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
minniev wrote:
I love taking pictures of imperfect things: old vehicles, abandoned houses, industrial sites from ages gone by, ragged flowers, all of it! My tendency is to edit many of them with a grunge type processing approach. My own old farm gives me quite a few opportunities. This is one of the mystery outbuildings that we aren't sure how old it is or what it was first used for. Posting the original and an edited version meant to look like an old photo.


I like that you included the original and a copy of your finial edit. Both would have qualified in terms of the topic; but the treatment of the subject gives us an insight into your train of thought and what you wanted to achieve with the photo. With all the "grunge", the house becomes a bit more obscured; but, overall, I like edit more than the original. The processing does seem to fit the subject.
Erich

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Aug 4, 2021 05:26:47   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
minniev wrote:
I love taking pictures of imperfect things: old vehicles, abandoned houses, industrial sites from ages gone by, ragged flowers, all of it! My tendency is to edit many of them with a grunge type processing approach. My own old farm gives me quite a few opportunities. This is one of the mystery outbuildings that we aren't sure how old it is or what it was first used for. Posting the original and an edited version meant to look like an old photo.
Except for the poisonous snakes, humidity and tornadoes, I would surely love spending hours exploring your historic homestead. Great atmospheric processing.

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