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Aug 1, 2021 10:58:52   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
I think the sky replacement works well with photo. The colors and tones are similar to what you see on the ship itself. Sometime back I saw a YouTube tutorial on getting rid of chain link fences. I think your rendition worked out well.

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Aug 1, 2021 11:01:56   #
NJFrank Loc: New Jersey
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
A stumble-upon scene in my apartment complex a couple of months ago. I was drawn to the light and shadows of early morning, and posted to Exploration of Digital Artistry in color. Jim-Pops suggested black and white, which - as often is the case - resulted in a very different image. I'm hoping folks will think about all the stories these work boots could tell if we listen

(edit - just now am thinking a crop from the bottom might improve. Or do the hanging laces add interest?)


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A stumble-upon scene in my apartment complex a cou... (show quote)


I remember seeing your color image. Jim Pops suggestion seems to work well in this posting. Reminds me of something you might see on a porch by the steps to someones front door.

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Aug 1, 2021 11:23:02   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
NJFrank wrote:
I remember seeing your color image. Jim Pops suggestion seems to work well in this posting. Reminds me of something you might see on a porch by the steps to someones front door.
Indeed!

Thanks Frank

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Aug 1, 2021 14:56:09   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
I took this in October of 2017 in one Boise's parks. Every time I come to it I want to do something to it but always end up leaving it alone.

Everything in the image strikes me as old and discarded. The boot has served well but where is it's mate? The old tree trunk and root seems to be commiserating with the boot. Sad.

I have tried cropping several ways but everything seems to belong.

Ed


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Aug 1, 2021 16:05:07   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
edrobinsonjr wrote:
I took this in October of 2017 in one Boise's parks. Every time I come to it I want to do something to it but always end up leaving it alone.

Everything in the image strikes me as old and discarded. The boot has served well but where is it's mate? The old tree trunk and root seems to be commiserating with the boot. Sad.

I have tried cropping several ways but everything seems to belong.

Ed


I can understand your problem. I would not know what to "edit" out of the photo, and still have the same photo. I think that I would leave all the elements alone; but I might try different strategies for processing the photo. You have chosen to remain true to the scene as you probably saw it; but there are a lot of possibilities that you might want to try.
Erich

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Aug 1, 2021 16:50:21   #
captivecookie Loc: Washington state
 
Marking this so I can read it later. Liked all the pictures at first glance.

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Aug 1, 2021 16:54:17   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
I decided to post this in counterpoint to the USS United States. This old truck has outlived its life expectancy by several generations but here he is still chugging along, proving that being old and rusty does not mean you're dead. Now he has survived being in the wrong place, a picture taker with the wrong lens and an owner who didn't seem excited about having his truck preserved for posterity, he yelled at me in Spanish.

Best I could do Nikon D7200, 70-300 Kit lens, ISO 400, f8 @ 1:1000 and limited access to my subject.


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Aug 1, 2021 17:02:04   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
NJFrank wrote:
I think the sky replacement works well with photo. The colors and tones are similar to what you see on the ship itself. Sometime back I saw a YouTube tutorial on getting rid of chain link fences. I think your rendition worked out well.


I searched the available sky replacements until I found one that seemed to work. Thanks.
Erich

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Aug 1, 2021 17:07:42   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I decided to post this in counterpoint to the USS United States. This old truck has outlived its life expectancy by several generations but here he is still chugging along, proving that being old and rusty does not mean you're dead. Now he has survived being in the wrong place, a picture taker with the wrong lens and an owner who didn't seem excited about having his truck preserved for posterity, he yelled at me in Spanish.

Best I could do Nikon D7200, 70-300 Kit lens, ISO 400, f8 @ 1:1000 and limited access to my subject.
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Surprised that the owner was peeved about you taking a photo. As for the connection to the ship....Ocean Liners became hopelessly obsolete as soon as transatlantic flight became commercially viable. Pick up trucks continue to be extremely useful. As long as you don't care about bells and whistles, the old ones are as practical as their newer counterparts. I never owned one before 2014 and now I can't imagine how I did without one all those years.
Erich

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Aug 1, 2021 18:17:26   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
ebrunner wrote:
Surprised that the owner was peeved about you taking a photo. As for the connection to the ship....Ocean Liners became hopelessly obsolete as soon as transatlantic flight became commercially viable. Pick up trucks continue to be extremely useful. As long as you don't care about bells and whistles, the old ones are as practical as their newer counterparts. I never owned one before 2014 and now I can't imagine how I did without one all those years.
Erich


Me too.

Hopelessly obsolete? Only as high speed transportation to and from the Continent. Cruising for pleasure is highly popular and profitable. The Queen Mary II still makes high speed transatlantic scheduled runs. Cruise Lines provide cruises from 3 days to 6+ month tours.

Cunard Lines understood that there would always be a need and a market for Luxury transatlantic service. US Lines never figured that out. The result was the Queen Mary and the Queen Mary II continued on their run and continued to be profitable. US Lines allowed The SS United States to become obsolete. The only difference between the SS United States and my truck is that the truck owners refused to accept obsolesce.

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Aug 1, 2021 18:24:22   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
edrobinsonjr wrote:
I took this in October of 2017 in one Boise's parks. Every time I come to it I want to do something to it but always end up leaving it alone.

Everything in the image strikes me as old and discarded. The boot has served well but where is it's mate? The old tree trunk and root seems to be commiserating with the boot. Sad.

I have tried cropping several ways but everything seems to belong.

Ed
I like the pov, especially that the root runs from foreground to the tree. It's an engaging shot which does raise stimulating questions.

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Aug 1, 2021 18:28:10   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I decided to post this in counterpoint to the USS United States. This old truck has outlived its life expectancy by several generations but here he is still chugging along, proving that being old and rusty does not mean you're dead. Now he has survived being in the wrong place, a picture taker with the wrong lens and an owner who didn't seem excited about having his truck preserved for posterity, he yelled at me in Spanish.

Best I could do Nikon D7200, 70-300 Kit lens, ISO 400, f8 @ 1:1000 and limited access to my subject.
I decided to post this in counterpoint to the USS ... (show quote)
I prefer the rear view you included in your Photo Gallery topic. For me, that one better shows the value of the truck as a working person's tool.

In both pics, the juxtaposition against well kept newer homes is striking.

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Aug 1, 2021 18:34:29   #
srt101fan
 
ebrunner wrote:
The Master in You is an evolution of the monthly Master's Critique. Here we will give you a "topic" each month with some themes to consider. Shoot some images with the topic in mind and then post them in this thread and tell us about them. Where did you shoot the image? What are your concerns and challenges with the image? How much, if any, consideration did you give to gear to get the image you wanted? You might also wish to address the themes that are mentioned along with the topic.

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Topic Of The Month , August 2021: "Less Than Pristine "

Theme 1 How do you approach this topic Mechanical decay, industrial, urban decay, or rural buildings falling apart? What do you look for?

Theme 2 Processing: When do you say "too much"? Do you visualize post processing, or let it come to you?


For some time now, I've wanted to shoot the SS United States. This is the fastest Ocean Liner to cross the Atlantic. Her last voyage was in 1969, and she is presently docked in Philadelphia while a conservancy group is trying to invent a future for this once proud ship. The dock area is closed to the public. So, I had to photograph her from the street on the far side of a chain link fence. I wanted the photo to remind the viewer of a bygone era in travel, so I tried to make it look like an old photograph. I should have shot in film; but I did not on this occasion. (Maybe in the future). I did use "film" presets in NIK. I also cloned out the lines that keep the ship from floating away from the dock.

I thought this might be a good example of: "Less Than Pristine". Of course we are interested in discussing this photo; but we also want to see your examples of "Less Than Pristine". From your archives or shot recently, the choice is yours. This topic will remain active for the month of August.

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The Master in You is an evolution of the monthly M... (show quote)


Erich, as a ship lover, I thank you for posting this photo. I saw the ship in New York in the late 50s but have not seen her in Philadelphia. A very nice shot of a wonderful ship. She certainly occupies a prime spot in the history of the great North Atlantic liners. Just curious, did you have any emotional reaction seeing her in her current condition?

I love the image. But I do wonder about the sky. The colors fit the theme, but is it a bit too much? Don't know. I also wonder about the possibilities in a b & w version. Have you considered that?

Nice work, and thanks again for posting a great photo with a great subject.....

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Aug 1, 2021 18:44:00   #
cbtsam Loc: Monkton, MD
 
This is a somewhat different interpretation of less than pristine, as the topic is botanical, not mechanical. I hope it is still germane to the monthly topic.

I do a lot of shots of what I call wabi-sabi, seeking to portray the beauty in imperfection, almost always with plants and their flowers.

While I sometimes anticipate what I'll do in post, it is mostly a feel your way kind of thing for me. I think I just know when it's too much, but I rather suspect that just enough for me may be way too much for you! :-) I generally don't care too much about reproducing "reality," as I'm often not sure what that is.


Tulip #12, 2021-05-28-A5-C3-Rim-x35-17-55-17-(A,Radius16,Smoothing2)-copy by Sam Yaffe, on Flickr

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Aug 1, 2021 18:47:23   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
cbtsam wrote:
This is a somewhat different interpretation of less than pristine, as the topic is botanical, not mechanical. I hope it is still germane to the monthly topic.

I do a lot of shots of what I call wabi-sabi, seeking the beauty in imperfection, almost always with plants and their flowers.
Sam, I find this to be a stunning, highly engaging photo. Dead or dying flowers and plants make compelling subjects IMO.

(you sure figured out the flickr link stuff fast )

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