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Jul 5, 2021 22:00:31   #
smussler Loc: Land O Lakes, FL - Formerly Miller Place, NY
 
I just did a search for refurbished cards. NewEgg - first hit - has lots of them. No reviews on any that I looked at-each said "be first to review". Satisfaction ratings were around 80%. Sounds like something to avoid.

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Jul 5, 2021 22:26:25   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
BH 64g for under $20. extreme pro 160 speed. my # may be slightly off

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Jul 5, 2021 22:35:21   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Ched49 wrote:
What do they do to refurbish a memory card, clean the metal contacts? And are the new ones that much more expensive than refurbished 0nes?

They clean the contacts and case.
Maybe test the cells? That's all they can do.
I've no idea of the cost on refurbs. New 16Gb Sandisk are $6 to $8 at B&H.

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Jul 5, 2021 22:37:53   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
rook2c4 wrote:
How does one mistreat a memory card? Yell at it? Just about everyone treats their memory cards the same. Put it into the card slot, take it out of the card slot.

Besides, you can always inspect and test the purchased used card before a shoot to make sure it works and isn't defective. Easy enough.


First, there is a limited number of write / erase cycles on NAND Flash cards. If you buy used, you have no idea how many of those have been used up

Secondly, exposure to ESD (static) discharges (especially SD cards with exposed contacts) may not immediately kill a card, but each exposure degrades the junction until it finally does. When you buy used, you have no idea how the card was stored or handled and exposed to ESD.

Finally, your chances of getting a counterfeit card (which are very prevalent in the market) are higher when purchasing used from an unverified source than purchasing from a reputable dealer.

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Jul 5, 2021 22:42:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
TriX wrote:
First, there is a limited number of write / erase cycles on NAND Flash cards. If you buy used, you have no idea how many of those have been used up

Secondly, exposure to ESD (static) discharges (especially SD cards with exposed contacts) may not immediately kill a card, but each exposure degrades the junction until it finally does. When you buy used, you have no idea how the card was stored or handled and exposed to ESD.

Finally, your chances of getting a counterfeit card (which are very prevalent in the market) are higher when purchasing used from an unverified source than purchasing from a reputable dealer.
First, there is a limited number of write / erase ... (show quote)


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Jul 6, 2021 02:41:57   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
TriX wrote:
First, there is a limited number of write / erase cycles on NAND Flash cards. If you buy used, you have no idea how many of those have been used up

Secondly, exposure to ESD (static) discharges (especially SD cards with exposed contacts) may not immediately kill a card, but each exposure degrades the junction until it finally does. When you buy used, you have no idea how the card was stored or handled and exposed to ESD.

Finally, your chances of getting a counterfeit card (which are very prevalent in the market) are higher when purchasing used from an unverified source than purchasing from a reputable dealer.
First, there is a limited number of write / erase ... (show quote)


That's why they are cheap. For a low enough price, I would buy a whole crate of them.

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Jul 6, 2021 09:26:58   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
rook2c4 wrote:
That's why they are cheap. For a low enough price, I would buy a whole crate of them.


And risk the data that you spent all that $ on camera equipment and your time to acquire?

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Jul 6, 2021 13:02:28   #
smussler Loc: Land O Lakes, FL - Formerly Miller Place, NY
 
Here's a link to amazon for 3 64GB cards for $39.99
Why Buy Refurbished ? And check the 128GB pricing!!

Couldn't pass that up, just ordered 3 myself, with amazon rewards credit - less than $9 a card . . .

And I just cancelled the order upon reading the reviews . . . They might be fine, but . . .
Only bad cards I ever purchased - off of Amazon . . .

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Jul 6, 2021 13:14:14   #
Canisdirus
 
You get what you pay for in this world.

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Jul 6, 2021 13:16:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Canisdirus wrote:
You get what you pay for in this world.


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Jul 6, 2021 20:51:35   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
B and H under $20 64 g

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Jul 7, 2021 15:27:26   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
In the past, I have purchased a few "refurbished" cards on eBay. I have never had a problem with them. Now with the price going down, I don't have to use that source anymore.

Adorama has Fuji film 64 GB for $9.99. Can't beat that price.

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Jul 7, 2021 15:52:28   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
elliott937 wrote:
I've been building up an extra supply of memory cards. I need to watch my funds, so I looked over at eBay and found some 'refurbished' compact flash cards. I bought a couple, for less than 1/4 the cost on our favorite store ... Amazon. I've tried them and they seem to be working fine.

Have any one else here purchased refurbished memory card?


Let me first say that there is no such thing as refurbishing a memory card. The chips inside are sealed and there is nothing external that can be done to the card to make it work better.

A second point is that memory cards do wear out. The Flash memory erase process slowly wears out a card. And random bits will go bad over time. Most of the time, there are not enough of these bad bits to overwhelm the error correction that the chips use but the day is coming when the card will fail.

Internally, the Flash chips employ block replace strategies and perhaps column replace strategies at testing during manufacturing. Once the chips are beyond manufacturing, there is no more of this replacing process performed. This cannot be performed on packaged parts, thus no refurbishing.

The few $$$ saved is not worth it.

Additionally, there are cases where pirated chips are packaged and sold as much larger and faster packages. They are known to make a smaller part continually overwrite the same area making you think you have a larger card. And they will sell it so that it looks like a legitimate manufacturer of memory cards. Buying so called "refurbished" may get you some of these cards. By the way, Flash Memory manufacturing is difficult and quite expensive to set up a fab. I would seriously doubt that there are manufacturers making the chips that are destined to go into these fraudulent memory cards. There are only a handful of manufacturers in the entire world making Flash Memory. The only source I can think of is that some older, smaller, slower die are obtained in some manner and packaged to look like something they are not.

I wouldn't do it.

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Jul 9, 2021 10:41:02   #
Bill.Doub
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
This is the type of thinking that makes people think you don't really care about your images. I don't know how to be more serious.

What brands are you buying refurbished? If they're not SanDisk Extreme Pro, why not? Your images aren't worth about $16 per new 32GB card? Has anyone ever heard of a SanDisk Extreme Pro card failing? Anyone? Ever??

Did you see this story in the main section recently? https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-702205-1.html

BTW - memory cards are not long-term storage devices. You need only as many as your longest trip, assuming you can offload images during the trip and reuse the cards on the road. I don't have every card stacked here at the keyboard, but for 3 full-frame digital bodies and 1 pocket model, I'm pretty sure I have just 12 x 32GB cards - combined, both CF and SD, maybe only 10. How much of an 'extra supply' are you creating?
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Your 'BTW' message is the first thing I thought of when I read the original message. Why are you storing all your images on memory cards. If I'm traveling by car or some other means that allows me to have my laptop with me, I transfer filled cards to the PC, store on internal drive and also cloud storage. If no laptop, I transfer to phone or tablet via WiFi (and also cloud storage).

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Jul 9, 2021 11:03:58   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Bill.Doub wrote:
Your 'BTW' message is the first thing I thought of when I read the original message. Why are you storing all your images on memory cards. If I'm traveling by car or some other means that allows me to have my laptop with me, I transfer filled cards to the PC, store on internal drive and also cloud storage. If no laptop, I transfer to phone or tablet via WiFi (and also cloud storage).


"Long term" is not while one is on safari or traveling home, it is when one puts the cards in a drawer for archival saving.

Not sure what you mean by "Why are you storing all your images on memory cards."
I did not infer "storage" (as in long term) from his post. They are unloaded (transferred to a PC) when he gets back from an outing.

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