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Jun 9, 2021 09:30:41   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
How so? Please explain.
CWGordon wrote:
Curtis:
Yes, what currently is happening is very important. However, those that support Democracy have every reason to be concerned about a Trump future. It is also very important.

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Jun 9, 2021 09:33:36   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
My opinion reflects actuality.
Kmgw9v wrote:
News media workers are very often biased, and self-selverving; but to generalize, suggesting that the mass of them “shun verifiable facts” and have replaced “reason and critical thought” with “their emotionalism”, operating on “gut feeling” alone—is childish hyperbole.
Overstating your thoughts distracts from your credibility.

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Jun 9, 2021 09:34:48   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
News media workers are very often biased, and self-selverving; but to generalize, suggesting that the mass of them “shun verifiable facts” and have replaced “reason and critical thought” with “their emotionalism”, operating on “gut feeling” alone—is childish hyperbole.
Overstating your thoughts distracts from your credibility.


You (meaning most people) actually think there are journalist in the main stream media that act independently and actually seek the t***h.
They say only what they want you to know; the news is used to herd us in the direction they want us to go.

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Jun 9, 2021 09:51:49   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
By demonstration of the news media performance, we may say that in general the news media outlets function as political arms of the major political parties.
CNN has become notorious for its status as the mouthpiece of the Democrat Party.
soba1 wrote:
You (meaning most people) actually think there are journalist in the main stream media that act independently and actually seek the t***h.
They say only what they want you to know; the news is used to herd us in the direction they want us to go.

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Jun 9, 2021 09:59:31   #
CWGordon
 
Another view: is it worth mentioning that FOX has been telling the Republican Party what to do for years? Is it worth mentioning that OAN, NewsMax and Q***n are spokesmen, not just for the Republican Party, but its’ most radical memories? Another view is really just the radical right wing view, hardly an independent voice or view, at all. Let’s be fair and honest about it, it’s not an independent view, as it appears intended to be.

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Jun 9, 2021 10:00:28   #
CWGordon
 
My previous post should have said members, not memories. mea culpa.

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Jun 9, 2021 10:12:26   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
soba1 wrote:
It’s all a show they are all actors in a world wide play, yes including your boy Trudeau…
That’s why I’m not contesting your statement.


Trudeau is the worst, probably the leader of the cabal.

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Jun 9, 2021 10:22:10   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
anotherview wrote:
By demonstration of the news media performance, we may say that in general the news media outlets function as political arms of the major political parties.
CNN has become notorious for its status as the mouthpiece of the Democrat Party.


You said “political arms of the major political parties”. Then you cited CNN as “notorious” mouthpiece of the Democratic Party. That was it.
So what other “political parties” did you mean, and what “news media outlets” did you have in mind?
Your post only told a part of the story.

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Jun 9, 2021 10:37:38   #
DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"
 
anotherview wrote:
News media workers and their ilk suffer from the difficulty of replacing their emotionalism with reason and critical thought. They shun involving verifiable facts and information in their conversation, oral or written. Typically, they operate on gut feeling. This condition blinds them to counter-facts. Etc.


Your sweeping generalization is clearly wrong; there are reliable news sources (AP to name one). In your own words you have presented bias and are doing the same thing that you decry in news reporting.

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Jun 9, 2021 10:47:33   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
anotherview wrote:
By demonstration of the news media performance, we may say that in general the news media outlets function as political arms of the major political parties.
CNN has become notorious for its status as the mouthpiece of the Democrat Party.


Agreed

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Jun 9, 2021 10:48:30   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
DukeTarHeel wrote:
Your sweeping generalization is clearly wrong; there are reliable news sources (AP to name one). In your own words you have presented bias and are doing the same thing that you decry in news reporting.


I heard it said and Im finding it to be true.
There is more t***h in movies than the news.

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Jun 9, 2021 11:48:46   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
CWGordon wrote:
My previous post should have said members, not memories. mea culpa.


After you make a post...you can just edit the post, for up to an hour, when you spot a mistake.

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Jun 9, 2021 12:24:33   #
Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin
 
berchman wrote:
As the president hints at running for president once again, his future could lie in the courtroom, not the Oval Office

He’s Teflon Don no more, at least when it comes to court.

Donald Trump, no longer insulated by claims of p**********l protections, faces a host of increasingly serious legal problems in some of the US’s most high-profile courts, including both criminal investigation and civil litigation.

Trump “can face criminal charges for activities that took place before he was president, after he was president, and while he was president – as long as they were not part of his duties while he was president of the United States,” said attorney David S Weinstein, partner at Jones Walker LLP’s Miami office.

Trump has not been charged with any crimes, and he has repeatedly denied wrongdoing personally and in his business dealings. His attorneys did not respond to requests for comment. A request for comment through his website received an automatic response of: “Thank you for your inquiry. Our staff is currently reviewing your request.”

But the exact impact of this on Trump’s political future is unclear. Political science experts say that legal actions against Trump might not pose problems, as even if he were found to have committed wrongdoing, his loyalists might stick with him.

The most threatening legal investigation, which involves potential for jail either for Trump or his associates if it proceeded and resulted in conviction, does not relate to his p**********l duties.

The Washington Post reported on 25 May that Manhattan prosecutors had convened the grand jury that is “expected to decide whether to indict Donald Trump, other executives at his company or the business itself, should prosecutors present the panel with criminal charges”.

This development suggests that Manhattan prosecutors’ inquiry into Trump and his business concerns have hit an “advanced stage” after proceeding for more than two years. More, it indicates that Manhattan prosecutors believe they have discovered evidence of a crime. This potential evidence could be against Trump, an executive at his company, or his business.

This inquiry is broad-ranging, involving Trump’s business dealings prior to his presidency. The investigation is exploring whether the value of some real estate in his company’s portfolio were manipulated in a manner that defrauded insurance companies and banks. The investigation is also seeking to determine whether questionable assessment of property values might have resulted in unlawful tax breaks, per the Washington Post.

Meanwhile, the New York state attorney general has ramped up its investigation. “We have informed the Trump Organization that our investigation into the organization is no longer purely civil in nature. We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan DA. We have no additional comment at this time,” a spokesman for the office said in an email to the Guardian.

Fani Willis, district attorney of Fulton County, Georgia, said in February that there were plans to investigate Trump’s call to the Georgia secretary of state, in which he urged him to “find” sufficient v**es to allow him to win. Willis also announced plans to probe other “attempts to influence the administration of the 2020 Georgia general e******n,” the Post said.

In New York, Trump faces several major civil suits. Two women who accused Trump of sexual assault, ex-Apprentice contestant Summer Zervos and advice columnist E Jean Carroll, have filed defamation actions against him for statements he made about their allegations. He also faces a lawsuit filed by Efrain Galicia, an activist, over allegedly being attacked by Trump’s security during a 2015 protest outside Trump Tower.

Something like criminal proceedings involving taxes could firm up support, as Trump could ramp up his claims of victimhood, playing to aggrieved v**ers who think the system is r****d against them. Plus, experts said, some of Trump’s base is attracted to his boorish, bullying behavior.

“The majority of the evidence that we have on hand says that people who like Trump don’t care what he does – it just doesn’t matter if he breaks the law,”
said Francisco I Pedraza, a political scientist at University of California Riverside. For those v**ers, “he can do no wrong”.

“We know from a lot of social science research that people who back Trump also register very high on validated and reliable indexes of racial resentment, for example, he serves that and offers a kind of politics that responds to that flavor of politics,” Pedraza said. “Anything else doesn’t matter as long as he continues to be a champion for r****t [sentiments].”

Several experts said, however, that Trump could lose some support if allegations offended economically disadvantaged persons in his base – if he c***ted the proverbial little guy, for example, those who feel c***ted by the system might turn on him.

Samuel Popkin, a research professor at the University of California San Diego and author of Crackup: The Republican Implosion and the Future of P**********l Politics, said: “If he gets nailed on stuff that is very complicated and hard to decipher and just looks like taxes are too high and everybody gets screwed, ‘I’m just another businessman trying to [give] the government no more than they deserve.’ It will not hurt him.

“If there’s a conviction that has to deal with real theft, and stealing and s**mming people, like the business with Trump University but on a massive scale, then it could hurt him.”

“It really depends on which charges.”

Susan MacManus, professor emerita of political science at the University of South Florida, similarly said: “If it’s taxes, people are less likely to see that as big an issue” compared to something more serious, such as security.

However, “any kind of conviction of some kind of criminal offense could definitely sway” a number of Republicans, MacManus said.

“The question is when you start looking at the fringes of the base, and you start looking at independent v**ers, not Republicans,” said Thomas Patterson, a professor at Harvard Kennedy School. With that group, legal action could carry the “possibility of erosion” in supporting Trump.

Regardless of whether Trump, his employees, or company are prosecuted, it’s all but guaranteed to result in unprecedented attention and controversy, exacerbated by the ex-president’s notorious recalcitrance.

One New York courts insider told the Guardian that the frenzy would make the Harvey Weinstein case “look like somebody with training wheels”.

“I can only imagine what a circus it would be,” the insider said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/08/first-thing-teflon-don-no-more-as-legal-threats-mount-against-trump
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Just let him fade into the distance like a bad memory and get on with a real honest Republican who people can v**e for.

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Jun 9, 2021 12:26:22   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
anotherview wrote:
My opinion reflects actuality.


Wouldn't that be for someone other than yourself to determine?

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Jun 9, 2021 12:28:59   #
CWGordon
 
MWalsh: Thank you. I was unaware I could correct that way. Maybe I also should do a better proofreading. I will try harder. Again, thank you.
CWG

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