chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand

You are making an assumption that I care whether I want to look competent. You know how sometimes you watch somebody doing something, and they are doing it so wrong, that all you want to do is go up and give them a whack around the head ? I sometimes try the same with words. Maybe not the best approach but I see so many on here who don't have a clue and it frustrates me. God gave us a brain and it was made to be used not to sit there and act like it is a marshmallow.

Yourstruly43

There once was a discussion on this website about hyper-focal distance. I read all kinds of responses with no satisfactory answers, so I finally joined the conversation. I gave the answer published in "Photography" by Barbara London, John Upton, etc. -- the most widely used Photography text used all over the country, and still there were attacks from people who questioned the answer and wanted to continue the discussion for eons.

Anyway, my knowledge of what's new in photography equipment gets frozen from time to time -- on a need to know basis. I'm glad for the help I got here. It wasn't all that long ago that I was shooting with a Fuji 6x9 or a Sinar View camera and scanning with an Imacon or Nikon 6x9 film scanner making really large prints. I can be a little slow at times.

chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand

Go back and read the OPs first entry. Read it again. Where does it say D800 ? A D800 was mentioned later but not in the initial posting where it should have been.

chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand

Who were you replying to ? Go away and learn how to use this forum correctly.

chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand

Because CF B cards weren't around then. It not even being mentioned should have told you something. It would probably take maybe a few minutes to find how CFB cards relate to D850s. Although you might think I was critiquing you maybe I should have made it a bit wider and try to cover all those whose brains seem to have turned to marshmallow based on some of the questions asked here. It takes 10 seconds to find the answer from the internet but a whole day before you would see an answer here on UHH.

Yourstruly43

I don't know if your comment was aimed at me, but I didn't mention which camera I had because I associated CF cards with my Nikon D800 (which I kept because what was and is being offered for trade in is laughable) and my QXD cards with my Nikon D850. I knew there was a difference, and you couldn't put one in a slot designed for the other.

What was confusing is that the new cards also include CF in there name, and I read somewhere that the new CF (Express B) would fit in the same slot as a QXD card. This was somewhat confusing as all SD cards will fit in the same slot (even though they might not all work). So I Googled the new cards and was just taken mostly to opportunities to buy the new cards. Noting in the Nikon manual.

Anyway, I am now clued in, properly scolded, and will buy the new cards over a QXD card the next time I'm feeling flush.

chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand

Okay. I will admit that when searching for information google almost always pops up where you can buy them (and tons of stuff not really even related much) and often pages of it. You need to quickly learn how to get past the crap to find the information. One of the downsides to google searches. Note that all SD cards do NOT fit in every SD slot. For a lot of them you need adapters. I can't remember whether it was mentioned by anybody else but you will also need a new card reader as well.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

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Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

What is a QXD card?
I know there are XQD ones and a CF Express one but the QXD is new to me.
A Nikon only product?

Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA

The OP never said D800E (his camera) or D850. We learned that he owns a D800E, like me and not a D850, like me also.

His question was never about 'fine art photography'.

I think there is only room here for attempts to answer other members questions,often without enough OP information to give a good answer to an incomplete question — not personal critiques.

I have seen claims here about the making of fine art photography and bite my tongue and say nothing. There is no fine art photography on this site. There is some well seen and beautifully rendered nature photography, but that boat for the most part, sailed long ago as far as being fine art. Making pictures that are seen as what’s in National Geographic is not making fine art, but trying to do so can advance your ability to see. Seeking an individual voice/vision is what leads to the making of fine art.

Further, people who are engaged in fine art photography are interested in expanding the definition of the medium and expanding it or bringing a new understanding to some existing area whose definition seems to be closed. I lived most of my life in that arena, and spent as much time worrying about equipment as needed to make the pictures I wanted to make.

Thank you to everyone who tried to answer my question. Everyone here knows more than I do about most of the advanced settings on there digital cameras. As far as this discussion is concerned, I was just trying to find away to save some money and I don’t think there is one.[/quote]

Dear "Yours", it is a D800E, not a D850. The D800E can take the CF Express Type 1 card, not an XQD card like the D850. He asked about cards that do not fit his D800E.

Fine Art, my BFA, can be any area of taking/making pictures to reach above and beyond the mundane to a 'higher level' of visualizing what you present to others. Simple fact, you might call it 'fine art' and any 10 other viewers might say much less. Much the same as you considering an image as "ho hum, mundane" and other viewers see it as a transcendental image qualifying as "fine art". "Fine Art" is in the eyes of the viewer, not always the creator of the image. - But, if you always work to produce a transcendent art-form image, more viewers and "critics" will see them as your "fine art".

I don't live for critics or forums where others might say what I consider my best photos as "fine art". I believe they exist as they are, in spite of anyone else and their opinions. (IMO) Any photographic artist is/should be working to produce art and fine art. This is NOT commercial art, for a mass market/audience and a client. It requires vision, purpose, effort and more interpretation of their personal vision to create an image or images that "touch the soul" of another human creature. The more that you do that is the more that you are working toward the almost indefinable effort to extend you vision and share it with others.

And, if you are not a 'fine art photographer', that is not a defamation or insult of any kind. No harm, no foul. Shoot your pictures, share them, enjoy them, enjoy the replies from other photographers. Keep doing what you are doing. With time, you will likely begin to be influenced by the expressed opinions of others. This is natural. Some of them are experienced or insightful. Many are not. This path may point you toward being a "fine art" photographer. Or it might direct you to doing 'what it takes' to win contests at the local camera club. Not 'fine art photography', but fulfilling. Enjoy it. Grow with it. (But, be aware that most of these "judges" will rate you on your ability to mimic their type of photography.)

If you want to do 'fine art photography', the fastest path to learning and growing is to immerse yourself in the images of other recognized 'fine art' photographers and their images. This is easier in big cities where there might be a museum or archive of images to view and learn from. If not, it used to be high quality 'photo books'. Now it might be online, if your computer/laptop is high enough quality to reproduce the tonal range and image quality of the museum's originals.

jeffhacker Loc: Dallas, Texas

They will both work if your firmware allows it as they are the same size. That being said, however, make sure your card reader can handle both. I went for a few months not understanding why I couldn't download a lot of pictures, until a salesman at my local [not big box] camera store figured out that I had both types, and I got a new reader. FWIW, I have a Nikon Z6 (switched from a D500 last summer so I've had it about a year).

nikonbrain Loc: Crystal River Florida

If using a Nikon D500 or a D850 you can use a CFExpress type B card in a QXD slot only after you do the firmware upgrade check with Nikon for firmware upgrade . Why use CFExpress type B over QXD is speed . My Sandisk has a read speed of 1500 MB/sec and a write of 800MB/sec . Better for 4k video and I am not sure but 10 frames a sec guaranteed . I never used the QXD as I bought the more popular CFExpress type B .

chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand

Hmmm. My understanding is that a XQD and the CF-B card work at the same speed in a D850. It is hardware limited. So no you wouldn't necessarily pick the CF-B because its faster in a D850. The CF-B cards might be faster in hardware designed for it but you gain nothing in a D850. So no need to go out and purchase CF-B cards because you think you will gain a speed benefit over your existing XQD cards. Or if you want to buy cards which can be used in possible future purchases. A bit of mis-information here.

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

A bit of mis-information here as well. The biggest benefit of the faster card in the D850 is the READ SPEED when uploading images to your computer. To obtain the fastest read speeds requires the proper cable and ports on your computer. Makes a BIG difference when uploading 2000+ images after an afternoon of shooting sports!

chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand

Like most people here never enough typing patience to add everything. And not mis-information just not all the information. Obviously a CF-B card will be faster when used in a CF-B reader because the reader, having hardware designed to read the card can make the most of its performance. If you have 2000+ images you might see a bit faster download speed but an XQD won't be that far behind the CF-B. A number of issues here to but if you want to find them use google. But with 2000+/a day images you are in a small minority and the difference isn't enough to decide to scrap your XQD for CF-B unless you have an acute bout of GAS or too much money, or are a recent owner of a D850 in which case you would be silly not to go with CF-B. Latest (and more expensive) iterations of CF-B can have very fast speeds, just not in a D850. My wife sometimes can have up to 5000 images so she starts a copy and goes makes tea. In fact in 20 years she has never once complained about downloading taking too long (well not entirely true but more to do with the laptop speed not the actual transfer speed). In fact the longest operation has nothing at all to do with D850s, CF-B or XQD but the length of time to make a backup copy. Leaving aside the time it takes to review and delete the crap.