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May 31, 2021 00:11:01   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
JohnFrim wrote:
The freedoms that you claim to have and that I don't are trivialities that to me are not worth fighting for. America may be the "freest" of the "free world" but that does not make the rest $hithole countries, and a former POTUS famously said while speaking so eloquently and p**********lly.


Now that sounds like a Sour Grapes attitude if I ever heard one, something like, you may have the 2nd Amendment but since I don’t like firearms anyway I don’t care. But I and millions of others do care. Many millions of men and women have around the globe helping others have the rights we have. It is not a joke to say many country would now be speaking German, Italian or Japanese if not for American military men and women who have their lives for the freedom others have.

Dennis

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May 31, 2021 09:17:58   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Now that sounds like a Sour Grapes attitude if I ever heard one, something like, you may have the 2nd Amendment but since I don’t like firearms anyway I don’t care. But I and millions of others do care. Many millions of men and women have around the globe helping others have the rights we have. It is not a joke to say many country would now be speaking German, Italian or Japanese if not for American military men and women who have their lives for the freedom others have.

Dennis


Well, you are correct about your crazy 2nd Amendment... which is just an amendment and could easily be amended again to something sensible.

And what is bad about speaking German? Das ist eigentlich meine Muttersprache.

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May 31, 2021 09:37:38   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Well, you are correct about your crazy 2nd Amendment... which is just an amendment and could easily be amended again to something sensible.

And what is bad about speaking German? Das ist eigentlich meine Muttersprache.


So you would be okay living under what Hitler wanted the world to be? Are you crazy or just nuts?

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May 31, 2021 09:39:22   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
dennis2146 wrote:
The difference John is that in America with the Left Wing anti gun politicians there is no real sensible gun regulation.
You are correct about there not being sensible gun regulation, but both parties are at fault for that.
dennis2146 wrote:
For many years there has been a talk from the Left of taking guns away from citizens even though the 2nd Amendment forbids such action.
As I have often said, an amendment can be amended again to keep up with the times. Your current version is a dinosaur and not applicable to this or even the past century.
dennis2146 wrote:
You might be aware there are over 25,000 gun laws on the books already. Yet many of those laws are not enforced. Don't ask me why. I have no idea. I can tell you that many of the laws are only meant to keep law abiding citizens from having firearms. Not one of the laws does anything to stop criminals from having or obtaining firearms. Criminals do not generally purchase firearms in a gun store as do honest citizens.
This is the most fallacious argument ever made in defence of gun ownership. Of course criminals will get guns despite regulations. The real point is that you want to prevent people who should not ever own guns from getting their hands on the them and BECOMING criminals!!!
dennis2146 wrote:
You might be aware of H****r B***n, President Biden's son, who purchased a firearm from a gun store but lied on the Federal Form 4473. Lying on that form is a felony charge of perjury. Over 60,000 people violate that law every year. Yet ATF does nothing to prosecute the offenders. Please explain to me why they do not.
You are the ex-cop; you should be able to explain that better than I can.
dennis2146 wrote:
That law is set up to stop criminals from purchasing firearms.
I don't buy that silly argument at all.
dennis2146 wrote:
As a drug abuser H****r B***n is prohibited from owning firearms. And yet he does. Is there a reason to enact even more anti gun laws when those we have are not enforced?
No, don't add yet another useless regulation or law. Trash the entire 2nd Amendment and all related/dependent laws and regulations and start from a clean slate.
dennis2146 wrote:
Another example: A felon is prohibited from owning firearms or ammunition. It is illegal, a felony, for ex felons to even touch a firearm. Yet it often happens that an armed felon is caught in the act of a burglary or theft. In order to have a speedy trial the District Attorney will drop the charge of felon in possession of a firearm and charge the felon with perhaps a simple trespassing charge. The felon gets a reduced sentence, the District Attorney can spout off that he has a high conviction rate for his next e******n speech and the criminal walks away after maybe a short term in a county jail rather than a state prison where he belongs.
Another example: A felon is prohibited from ownin... (show quote)
That is just a normal part of your country's crazy judicial system where politics gets in the way of logic.
dennis2146 wrote:
Once again, why even have laws that are not enforced except for honest citizens of let's say someone who feels threatened and starts carrying a handgun because he thinks his neighbor is out to get him.
It truly is sad that people fear going out on the street without their sidearm.
dennis2146 wrote:
Our Left Wing fools have been wanting to confiscate or other wise do away with AR and AK platform rifles. Even though these exact rifles have a very minimal impact on crime the Left still wants to put on a big show of getting rid of them. Why is that John? Why the HUGE display of anti semi automatic rifles when similar rifles have been popular in America since the late 1800's. Perhaps you can explain that to all of us. Minimal use in crime statistics and yet the Left wants to get rid of these two rifle types. Why.
Our Left Wing fools have been wanting to confiscat... (show quote)
A simple 2-word answer... stupid politics.
dennis2146 wrote:
Now I get you are not a gun person. But you can be a sometimes common sense person. So put away your anti gun bias and explain to us why the Left wants to take away something that does no or very minimal harm.
My common sense tells me that on a world scale the US is "way out in left field" (not politically, of course) when it comes to gun laws.

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May 31, 2021 09:40:45   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
papakatz45 wrote:
So you would be okay living under what Hitler wanted the world to be? Are you crazy or just nuts?


You are equating speaking German with endorsing Hitler. That would be as dumb as equating speaking English with endorsing Trump!!!

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May 31, 2021 09:42:33   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
They are under the "C".


Nice, finally it is recognized that the MSM reports from a l*****t POV.

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May 31, 2021 09:42:59   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
JohnFrim wrote:
You are equating speaking German with endorsing Hitler. That would be as dumb as equating speaking English with endorsing Trump!!!


Get help!

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May 31, 2021 09:48:42   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
Oh know! They're coming to take our guns, again. Just like Obama did! Just Clinton did! Just like every Democrat in the past has done? Just because not a single Democrat owns a Gun... except Bernie. Oh Know!
Conservatives are being played for Fools if they believe Liberals don't want to keep their Guns too. How else are We going to protect our home and family from another White massacre like in Oklahoma? Oh Know... lol

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May 31, 2021 10:54:05   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
JohnFrim wrote:
You are equating speaking German with endorsing Hitler. That would be as dumb as equating speaking English with endorsing Trump!!!


The post prior to yours referred to Japan or Germany winning WW2. Your response asking what would be wrong speaking German suggest you would be okay with Germany and Japan winning WW2 and the world speaking the languages of those conquering countries. Trump has nothing to do with the conversation. Oh, I forgot, Trump is in your mind 24-7 and you cannot converse without bringing him in.

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May 31, 2021 11:10:50   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Oh know! They're coming to take our guns, again. Just like Obama did! Just Clinton did! Just like every Democrat in the past has done? Just because not a single Democrat owns a Gun... except Bernie. Oh Know!
Conservatives are being played for Fools if they believe Liberals don't want to keep their Guns too. How else are We going to protect our home and family from another White massacre like in Oklahoma? Oh Know... lol


" another White massacre like in Oklahoma?" You mean the sorry state of affairs that took place 100 years ago? I think most b****s are as well armed these days as most w****s. Like me and many others, they would fight as hard to defend their family and home as I would. It's also pretty likely that the police would intervene long before a group of w****s became a mob. They only look the other way (in certain locations) when the mobs are largely black and carrying "B*M" signs. Thus, your over simplistic mockery is not valid in any way in the 21st century.

By the way...do you know the difference in usage of the words know and no?

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May 31, 2021 11:31:03   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
papakatz45 wrote:
The post prior to yours referred to Japan or Germany winning WW2. Your response asking what would be wrong speaking German suggest you would be okay with Germany and Japan winning WW2 and the world speaking the languages of those conquering countries. Trump has nothing to do with the conversation. Oh, I forgot, Trump is in your mind 24-7 and you cannot converse without bringing him in.


And you think I didn't get that?

Did you get that I am yanking your chain?

Regardless, no one -- not even you -- knows whether the reign of Hitler would have come to an abrupt end when people came to their senses... like the short-lived Trump Dynasty!!!!! He had delusions of 3 terms, followed by 3 terms each for Don Jr, Ivanka, and Eric. Poof! Gone in a flash of reality! (Yank, yank, yank... flush!)

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May 31, 2021 11:48:28   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Well, you are correct about your crazy 2nd Amendment... which is just an amendment and could easily be amended again to something sensible.

And what is bad about speaking German? Das ist eigentlich meine Muttersprache.


Nothing wrong with speaking or any other language. The problem as you apparently don't recall is that millions of people did NOT want to speak German, Italian or Japanese when they would have been forced to do so. You missed a lot being from Canada didn't you John?

There you go again with Left Wing BS nonsense when you say, crazy 2nd Amendment. There is a reason America has the 2nd Amendment. You have never had the freedom to know what that means. Your country easily went along with Great Britain ruling the world because you were part of it. But America was taxed without representation, like s***es to the British Empire and King George lll. Your country was not attacked. Mine was. We revolted and basically told the British to shove their rules and taxes up their butt. You still accept wh**ever they may give you but you are still under their rule to a degree. We are not.

If you think the 2nd Amendment is crazy, how about the rest of the Amendments in the Bill of Rights. Should we not have those Amendments either; are they crazy? Does Canada allow searches of homes and private possessions without a warrant? Can your government quarter soldiers in your homes without permission? If your government orders every citizen to turn in their firearms will you Canadian citizens do that? OR will your people tell the government to stick it up their ass? That is exactly what citizens in America are able to legally do if the government tells us to turn in our firearms. You disagree of course but then again as a Left Winger you must believe in a government that has that much power over its citizens.

I thank God every day for being born in this great country of mine, America, where we do have freedoms unknown to citizens of other countries.

America has millions of firearms owned by private citizens. But look around and the murder rate is highest in those cities/states with the strictest anti gun laws. Imagine that. Those who kowtow to the government wishes of no guns are the same as those who want to commit the highest number of murders. Amazing!!!

Dennis

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May 31, 2021 12:26:28   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
Alafoto wrote:
" another White massacre like in Oklahoma?" You mean the sorry state of affairs that took place 100 years ago? I think most b****s are as well armed these days as most w****s. Like me and many others, they would fight as hard to defend their family and home as I would. It's also pretty likely that the police would intervene long before a group of w****s became a mob. They only look the other way (in certain locations) when the mobs are largely black and carrying "B*M" signs. Thus, your over simplistic mockery is not valid in any way in the 21st century.

By the way...do you know the difference in usage of the words know and no?
" another White massacre like in Oklahoma?&qu... (show quote)


Wifey says "You bust yourself up." I prefer not to explain my 'jokes' no matter how good or bad.

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May 31, 2021 12:29:48   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
I'm sorry, I don't speak Ghetto. Since you don't explain yourself, I guess I'll have to wonder.

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May 31, 2021 13:23:09   #
captivecookie Loc: Washington state
 
I'm not so sure a conquering nation would impress their language upon a defeated nation as would have happened in some instances way back when. I do think they would have language laws in favor of the winning nation, but I'm not sure how that would play out. Rather than language, it would be allowed speech, disallowed speech, and compelled speech that would be the big changes. That pesky freedom of speech would be right out of here if the USA were o*******wn. Thankfully, this Greatest Freedom (my estimation) would be protected by the Second Greatest Freedom (the right to bear arms). These first two amendments protect the rest of the constitution, including, lest we forget, the part that outlaws s***ery.

Remember when President Biden told us that no amendment is absolute (my paraphrase)?

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