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May 27, 2021 20:19:02   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
ronpier wrote:
Everyone has a system that works for them. To each his/her own.I have 16 years of 100% success. Regular formatting works for me but not for everyone. I personally don’t change what works.


Neither do I.
( I tested ICs, including memory, for over 27 years.)

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May 27, 2021 22:18:00   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
Longshadow wrote:
But if they still work, why?
Just because they're "old technology"???

Gotta have newest, latest, and greatest?


Exactly, the picture quality isn't going to degrade over time just because the card is old.

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Jun 9, 2021 21:19:52   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
Thanks for all the helpful information. It brought up another question...Dare I clean the contacts of a memory card with something like Deoxit, to insure good contact and use, and how do you clean the interior contacts of the camera for the same reasons?

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Jun 10, 2021 00:20:59   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
flyboy61 wrote:
Thanks for all the helpful information. It brought up another question...Dare I clean the contacts of a memory card with something like Deoxit, to insure good contact and use, and how do you clean the interior contacts of the camera for the same reasons?


I'd suggest not. The gold plating is only a few atoms thick. Cleaning can remove some of the few atoms that are there, exposing the base metal and creating a problem where there was none. Contacts should be largely self-cleaning. Careful and considerate handling is a better preventive measure.

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Jun 12, 2021 11:28:37   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
larryepage wrote:
I'd suggest not. The gold plating is only a few atoms thick. Cleaning can remove some of the few atoms that are there, exposing the base metal and creating a problem where there was none. Contacts should be largely self-cleaning. Careful and considerate handling is a better preventive measure.


Thank you!

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Jun 12, 2021 21:36:05   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The problem with old / small cards is not their ability to function. Rather, they have relatively (to extremely) slow read / write speeds, simply due to being earlier technology built to earlier and smaller file size standards. A sports / wildlife capable camera like your D7100 is negatively impacted when high frames per seconds are captured and need to be written from the camera buffer to the card due to the card's slow write speed. Newer cameras featuring the industry standard 24MP sensors also fill these cards very fast in RAW. If roughly 1000 24MP RAW files fill a 32GB card, that's around 175 RAW files to a 4GB card. I might fill that card in 30 minutes of shooting, unless it takes 30 minutes to clear the buffer to the card ...
The problem with old / small cards is not their ab... (show quote)


There's many other issues.

Especially the older ones, there's a limited amount of read/write/erase cycles.
There's also bit and chip rot. A reformat will help.

ECC codes means it tries to figure out the bad part- for only a certain number of times.
By the time that part is declared unreadable it's pretty much gone. And unusable.

A RAW file is @ 2x larger than a JPG. It takes 2x the resources.
Do both- it takes your camera 3x as long- and is 3x as large- to fully process.

JUST discussed this. "Why is my larger new one slower than my older one?"
It isn't. Writing 8gb to a 16gb disc takes shorter than writing 58gb to a 64gb disc.
...
And tech just marches on. Every couple years and the world changes.
I LERV the pictures the sensor in my D80 makes- the D600 is a better camera. That D850 ...
.
HDDs and SSDs from the last couple years are estimated to last 5x to 10x times longer than new 10yr olds.
I've been installing software from flopoies. CDs and DVDs.- for decades.
And I've been installing them onto PATA and SATA1 spinner drives. Takes time ...
Been doing some upgrades. Changed some slow Xeons to i5s and i3s. 8 to 12/16 ram.
USB 3.1 port, fast 32gb flash drive, Win10 and Office installs, on some decent 1tb SSDs.
Done?! Really?! Reboot- boom! There it is!! Kids think I'm a wizard ...

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Dec 5, 2021 22:25:51   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
Thank you all. I took a class once, sponsored by a local photo store. The "expert" teaching told us we needed to format our memory cards more than once, to clean out "electronic trash" completely(?) I don't take classes from them any more.

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Dec 5, 2021 22:37:07   #
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flyboy61 wrote:
Thank you all. I took a class once, sponsored by a local photo store. The "expert" teaching told us we needed to format our memory cards more than once, to clean out "electronic trash" completely(?) I don't take classes from them any more.

Yup.

We must choose our experts wisely ... easier said than done :-(

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