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May 20, 2021 08:15:00   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Blues Dude wrote:
I also had a problem with Adobe Photoshop, and no, I don't expect lifetime support. But I do expect the software to continue to operate as it did when I first bought it.
Lifetime support just means updates, which used to be optional. Originally when Adobe updated Photoshop, you had the option of buying the latest version or not. But the version you had bought still continued to work!
Today, Adobe's business model is selling software as a service (SAS), not as a product. That's their right to do so. But preventing buyers from accessing their older products is lousy.
Imagine the outcry if Ford or Chevy stopped selling parts for their 2010 and older cars/trucks.
I also had a problem with Adobe Photoshop, and no,... (show quote)




Do you sign a contract without reading and understanding it? You must, because you did not read the EULA, end user license agreement. You do not own the software, they do. You pay a fee to use it as long as they allow you to......I guess you want your car to time problem free FOREVER? You refrigerator? Evolution, is a part of life.

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May 20, 2021 09:19:28   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
It's partly choice of words plus a sell-job. Adobe used to issue an update once a year at a cost of 100s of dollars. Now, at $9.99 per month, the total annual subscription cost comes to $119.88.

So, one may translate the word "free" to "low-cost."
Bill_de wrote:
And that shows how easily people are fooled. If you are paying $9.99 per month, it ain't free!!!

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May 20, 2021 09:32:24   #
mikkel56 Loc: Greenbelt MD
 
They are screwing with you because you want them to cater to your whims.

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May 20, 2021 13:00:11   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
I appreciate your tongue-in-cheek reply. Even if it's stupid.


"Stupid", dear boy is the next image you see in the mirror.

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May 20, 2021 13:19:30   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
anotherview wrote:
It's partly choice of words plus a sell-job. Adobe used to issue an update once a year at a cost of 100s of dollars. Now, at $9.99 per month, the total annual subscription cost comes to $119.88.

So, one may translate the word "free" to "low-cost."


When I used PS I had a choice. I opted to buy every other update for $139. My software still worked just fine, even during the year I didn't pay.

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May 20, 2021 17:15:08   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
traderjohn wrote:
"Stupid", dear boy is the next image you see in the mirror.
I quit using that line in the 3rd grade. I see you're still locked in at 8 years old. OBTW - to avoid sending this thread to the attic where it does NOT belong, I'll be ignoring you henceforth (oh - that means, in the future).

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May 20, 2021 17:49:58   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
anotherview wrote:


So, one may translate the word "free" to "low-cost."


That would be one heck of a translation. I think Mr. Webster just rolled over in his grave!




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May 21, 2021 07:32:44   #
BebuLamar
 
Bill_de wrote:
That would be one heck of a translation. I think Mr. Webster just rolled over in his grave!




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Actually Free tends to associate with High Cost. Like when you pay for a high price hotel you get free breakfast.

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May 21, 2021 22:56:42   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
I appreciate your tongue-in-cheek reply. Even if it's stupid.

It’s actually accurate. I know people who do this.

Sorry it motivated you to name calling. I will refrain from that in turn.

I agree you should and in fact are able to buy a software product with an “infinite license”. The problem is that the software product must run under some operating system. Operating systems evolve and change due to competitive pressure and also to counter security threats. So at some point in the future the “infinite license” will not work.

Maybe you expect the developer to spend time and money to update her software to the new OS then give it away for free? That’s not fair either.

But you can buy a piece of software with an infinite license, load it on a machine then unhook that machine from all contact with the outside world. It will work forever. Or until the machine breaks. Whichever comes first. This is the reality of the “infinite license” running indefinitely.

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May 22, 2021 01:33:41   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
JD750 wrote:
It’s actually accurate. I know people who do this. I agree you should and in fact are able to buy a software product with an “infinite license”. The problem is that the software product must run under some operating system. Operating systems evolve and change due to competitive pressure and also to counter security threats. So at some point in the future the “infinite license” will not work.
Hi - - JD:
I maintain a computer that runs Win 98 and another with Win 311. No updates required, and Ami Pro and numerous other legacy programs (including games) simply work fine. Another of my legacy machines runs Win-NT and maintains my crypto-currency flawlessly. I don't expect any of those softwares to be compatible with Win-10, however I don't expect the software vendors to invade my legacy machines and kill the programs - which is the point of this thread. The OP noted that his software - previously working fine under Win-10 was apparently disabled by adobe. This is dirty pool !! And is why I disabled all adobe links from functioning on my computer (how to instructions previously posted).
The computer I built in 2015 (https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-496767-1.html) started with the bogus POS called Win Vista - which was eventually updated to Win-10 by microsoft when they acknowledged vista was a POS. I will NOT update my machine to Win 11, 12, or whatever they call it, but expect to run this machine as is until it, or I, die. I choose to NOT let adobe disable my software (as happened to the OP) - and I do not need any additional capabilities or fixes - as what I currently have exceeds my abilities for now and into the future.
JD750 wrote:
Sure, it's easy. Just unplug it from the internet and disable wi-fi and never ever plug it in again or turn on wi-fi.
Sorry if you feel insulted at my reply to your suggestion - but in todays day and age, isolationism is not a realistic option.

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May 22, 2021 06:35:08   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Sorry if you feel insulted at my reply to your suggestion - but in todays day and age, isolationism is not a realistic option.


You are quite the sad lonely person.

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May 22, 2021 09:49:43   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Sorry if you feel insulted at my reply to your suggestion - but in todays day and age, isolationism is not a realistic option.


I am not insulted by others opinions. However name calling doesn’t foster communication. I wanted to point that out.

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May 22, 2021 15:08:19   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
JD750 wrote:
I am not insulted by others opinions. However name calling doesn’t foster communication. I wanted to point that out.
Well - stupid isn't really a name - it's a condition. If, as I suspect, your comment was tongue in cheek, then it was clever. Otherwise - - -
What do you think about my post above detailing many of my still functional legacy machines and ? infinite licenses? Imagine if Nintendo or Sony at some point in time INACTIVATED all of their old gaming machines. Yes - given - if you want to play the current release of HALO - your old gen-1 machine likely won't work. BUT - that Gen-1 machine Along with the games you bought to play on it - should work 'forever'.
Just like CS6 should work 'forever' on my Win-10 computer.
That was the OP's point (I think) - Adobe software he had purchased (not subscription based) simply stopped working after something was pushed to his computer by adobe.

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May 26, 2021 12:48:47   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Blues Dude wrote:
I also had a problem with Adobe Photoshop, and no, I don't expect lifetime support. But I do expect the software to continue to operate as it did when I first bought it.
Lifetime support just means updates, which used to be optional. Originally when Adobe updated Photoshop, you had the option of buying the latest version or not. But the version you had bought still continued to work!
Today, Adobe's business model is selling software as a service (SAS), not as a product. That's their right to do so. But preventing buyers from accessing their older products is lousy.
Imagine the outcry if Ford or Chevy stopped selling parts for their 2010 and older cars/trucks.
I also had a problem with Adobe Photoshop, and no,... (show quote)

Yeah, but try to get parts for a 1947 Chevy. That would be more equivalent, given the rapid advances of sotware technology.

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May 26, 2021 12:50:50   #
mikeroetex Loc: Lafayette, LA
 
Bill_de wrote:
And that shows how easily people are fooled. If you are paying $9.99 per month, it ain't free!!!

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I pay $9.99 a month for LR. they toss in PS and updates for free.

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