Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

I had the R before getting the R5 and loved the mirrorless feature of the camera and all that brings, but hated the redesigned controls, how has your experience been with the R?

I was able to create some wonderful landscape images with that camera but it seemed that I was inadvertently changing settings while shooting simply while handling the camera. The R5/R6 is pretty much like going back to the 5 series as far as the controls are concerned with a few nicely added features. If you are a long time Canon shooter you will really appreciate the newer bodies.

JohnH3 Loc: Auburn, AL

I am having no issues with either camera in any respect except good results other than my R5 connecting to WiFi when in a crowded WiFi environment. When I bought both cameras (at different times), I went through every single page in the settings and set them to my ways of shooting. I bought the R6 first. When I bought the R5, I duplicated the settings one to one with the R6. In my hands, both cameras are the same.

I am not experiencing the issues I continually read about others having. I will say that I think owning the EOS R, R5, and R6 gives me a perfect combination of cameras. Just as you don’t use a hammer to turn a screw or a screwdriver to drive a nail, one camera does not serve every need. The R6 is absolutely perfect in my opinion for portraiture. I have used the R5 some for portraits, but it is almost overly detailed. It is not an issue with the camera, but simply because it has a LOT OF MEGAPIXELS. When it comes to group shots and landscapes, it is exemplary. The R is between the two in megapixels and definitely has its place as well. It is not at all a camera to be overlooked when compared to the R5 and R6.

I honestly think a lot of the problems people are having with the R5 and R6 focuses upon making the transition from DSLR to mirrorless. There is a big difference. What I observe is that users are basically totally in love with their R5s and R6s or frustrated with them. For me, I think going through each page of the settings was important and crucial to even better understanding the R5 and R6. Also, the focusing systems on the DSLR cameras and the mirrorless are different and react differently. I very often switch between one shot and servo depending upon what I am shooting. I will also change focus settings depending on the shot.

If someone is looking for a more generalized camera for everyday shooting/photography, in my opinion the EOS R would be a better choice for him/her than either the R5 or R6. The R is really the perfect everyday/general shooting camera of the three.

I am convinced that there is a learning curve involved with using both cameras. In my opinion, the results are worth the efforts to navigate the curves! I find that with all three mirrorless cameras, the color straight out of the camera is so exceptional that I find myself doing very little color editing on post productions if my settings were absolutely on target when shooting. I guess I am in the category of being totally in love with all three mirrorless cameras (Although the 5DMKIV still gets a lot of work time.)!

DRM Loc: NC

I have both R5 and R6. I don't think I have used the R6 at 35mm or wider, but I certainly have used the R5 at wide angles, using both the RF 15-35 f/2.8L IS and the RF 24-105 f/4L IS. I primarily shoot landscapes with the R5, which usually means small apertures and shutter speeds much slower than 1/200 second. I have not experienced any blurry images in these situations--none. In fact, sharpness equals or surpasses that produced by similar EF lenses on my 5Div.

Caveat: I am almost always shooting from a tripod. If the reported blurriness was generated handheld, my experience may not be relevant.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

With the IBIS and an IS lens you should still be able to expect better sharpness than with the R or the 5DIV. I think that the camera store he went to was trying to sell him a new full line of camera gear, body, lenses an entire outfit.

jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ

Demo cameras? Really? I don't think I'd trust a demo camera because too many people have messed with it and could have possibly caused some damage. I'm also pretty sure that there would be a lot of stink raised if this were truly the case.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

That is a very sharp pic shot in adverse lighting conditions. Having said that, the blur previously described, if for reasons similar to problems noted with Panny M4/3, happened between speeds of 1/60 and 1/200 and only with certain lenses, and with a Copal shutter.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

There have been isolated reports of this and Canon has responded and is looking into it.
From reading it looks like a firmware update is needed, nothing mechanically wrong.
If it were a big issue it would be better known for the thousands/millions already sold.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

Hi Bob,

I don't have those cameras, but have been considering one in the not-too-distant future...

My understanding of the "problem" is that it's the first image in a burst that gets blurred by the in-body image stabilization (IBIS). All images after the first seem fine. Now, these are the first two Canon cameras to have IBIS, so there may be some user error involved.... People not being accustomed to using IBIS.

But even if it isn't user error and assuming it's a glitch, the solution seems pretty simple.

For shots like you want to do... Just turn off IBIS and put the camera on a tripod. Even if you don't do that, how often do you shoot waterfalls and streams at 10 or 20 frames per second? Wouldn't you be taking single images, not bursts that fill up your memory card rapidly? As best I can tell, the "problem" only occurs when firing bursts of shots and it's only the first image that might be blurred.

Canon will fix it, you can rest assured. Maybe it will be done with a firmware update. Or maybe they will need to do a recall to change a physical component. They've taken care of problems in the past.... Loose mirrors in the original 5D, metering problems from a light leak in very early copies of the 5D Mark III, overheating AF components in the 1D Mark III. Etc. "Stuff happens", not a lot. But on the rare occasion when it does Canon is really good about resolving things.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

You need to set the camera to shoot continuously at a high frame rate, be sure IBIS is on, then take some short bursts of shots. Compare the first image from each burst against the subsequent images in the burst. Supposedly the "problem" will only occur in some of those "first" images.

Not sure if this is more or less prone to happen with a lens that also has image stabilization, which I don't believe your Sigma does.

If it's an image stabilization problem... such as the IBIS is still moving the sensor around when the image is made... it probably doesn't matter that you're using an ultrawide lens at a small aperture, where great depth of field would hide any focus error. On the other hand, if the blurred first image is due to a focus error, it might be more meaningful to use a telephoto with a relatively large aperture where any error would be more obvious.

I bet a lot of the people who are seeing the occasional problem are shooting sports or wildlife with telephotos. Those are more likely to be shot with bursts of shots at high frame rates. I think to shoot 12 frames per second (mechanical shutter) you need a minimum shutter speed of 1/250 (camera will reduce frame rate if slower shutter speeds are used). I imagine, but don't know for certain, that even faster shutter speed would be needed with the 20 frames/sec electronic shutter.

Show me any camera that's perfect every time and I just might buy it! (Far more of my images are messed due to something dumb I did... certainly aren't the fault of the camera.)

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

I am sure that I will get soon and do some waterfalls, I will pay attention but even so I don't think that I will be shooting within the parameters set by the OP.... If I ever notice flaws in the camera I will post about it, so far I love this camera.

Bobmski Loc: Atlanta, Ga

I hope your right. I called Canon support yesterday, described the issue and the rep I spoke with indicated that Canon was unaware of any blurry images when shooting wide and slow.

dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

Perhaps Ferrari should supply talented drivers with their automobiles.

Capn_Dave

Now that's a concept

gouldopfl

I have been a Canon shooter for years and my biggest issue isn't with the camera bodies but the slowness of getting new glass to market. I am not a professional so I have quite a few Tamron G2 lenses. Both Sigma and Tamron have I believe announced Z mount lenses, but neither for the RF mount. I don't know if Nikon has opened the spec for Z mount but Canon is still a closed system. Sony has published their mount information and there have been many third party quality lenses.

I have quite a bit of EF mount glass but I don't want to pay the 2000+ for Canon glass. Canon is going to turn into a company for professionals with the R5/6, the announced R3 and the R1. The R and RP are left with very few lens options for the hobbyist.

Zooman 1

Have used the R, RP and R6, seldom shoot below 1/200 so can't comment on blurry photos below this speed. I have gotten a large number of blurry photos at higher speeds, but have blamed it on user error. Many of the blurry photos had no sharp area. Will try hand held and on a tripod to see if there is a problem.