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May 4, 2021 18:26:01   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Hi Bob,

I don't have those cameras, but have been considering one in the not-too-distant future...

My understanding of the "problem" is that it's the first image in a burst that gets blurred by the in-body image stabilization (IBIS). All images after the first seem fine. Now, these are the first two Canon cameras to have IBIS, so there may be some user error involved.... People not being accustomed to using IBIS.

But even if it isn't user error and assuming it's a glitch, the solution seems pretty simple.

For shots like you want to do... Just turn off IBIS and put the camera on a tripod. Even if you don't do that, how often do you shoot waterfalls and streams at 10 or 20 frames per second? Wouldn't you be taking single images, not bursts that fill up your memory card rapidly? As best I can tell, the "problem" only occurs when firing bursts of shots and it's only the first image that might be blurred.

Canon will fix it, you can rest assured. Maybe it will be done with a firmware update. Or maybe they will need to do a recall to change a physical component. They've taken care of problems in the past.... Loose mirrors in the original 5D, metering problems from a light leak in very early copies of the 5D Mark III, overheating AF components in the 1D Mark III. Etc. "Stuff happens", not a lot. But on the rare occasion when it does Canon is really good about resolving things.
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May 4, 2021 18:37:39   #
John Hicks Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
 
If this was true the Canon Photo Plus magazine in the UK would have picked it up This is an independent magazine and they test Canon gear to the utmost and they have not mentioned this at all another example of fake news.

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May 4, 2021 20:40:45   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
John Hicks wrote:
If this was true the Canon Photo Plus magazine in the UK would have picked it up This is an independent magazine and they test Canon gear to the utmost and they have not mentioned this at all another example of fake news.


But, a nitwit responding in the comments section on a camera listing is such an authoritative source ...

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May 5, 2021 02:34:01   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Zooman 1 wrote:
Have used the R, RP and R6, seldom shoot below 1/200 so can't comment on blurry photos below this speed. I have gotten a large number of blurry photos at higher speeds, but have blamed it on user error. Many of the blurry photos had no sharp area. Will try hand held and on a tripod to see if there is a problem.


If you are intending to investigate, it might be worth comparing the results from different lenses. In the world of Panny M4/3, it was noted that the problem ocurred more often with a particular 14-140 attached and at 1/60 - 1/100. There have been no problems recorded with the later electro-magnetic shutter fitted to the G9 and GX9.

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May 5, 2021 07:13:05   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
But, a nitwit responding in the comments section on a camera listing is such an authoritative source ...


Are you sure it was a real nitwit? Not just some nitwit wannabe? Are they certified by the Nitwit Eligibility Society Team (NEST)? In case you were wondering what happened to the Idiot in Society group, they reorganized following the Monty Python debacle to form NEST, now the premier idiot interest organization.

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May 5, 2021 08:19:49   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Perhaps Ferrari should supply talented drivers with their automobiles.


Mention that to BMW, would you please?

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May 5, 2021 09:16:27   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Bobmski wrote:
I'm interested in the Canon R5 or R6, however I recently read a review on the B and H site, where the reviewer indicated that images taken with the mechanical shutter at 35mm or less and a shutter speed of 1/200 sec. or less resulted in blurry images. I had a chance to visit B & H last week and the Cannon sales staff confirmed that all pictures taken on their demo cameras at those settings resulted in blurry images. Since I enjoy shooting water scenes, cascades and streams, this obviously gave me cause for concern. The only workaround they mentioned was to use the electronic shutter for those situations. The reviewer indicated that Canon was aware of the problem but there was no plans for a fix at this time. I did call Canon support, they were unaware of the problem.

I appreciate comments from folks who have shooting experience with either the Canon 5 or 6 regarding this issue.

Thanks
Bob M
Atlanta, Ga.
I'm interested in the Canon R5 or R6, however I re... (show quote)

Here you may judge sharpness/blurriness for yourself. Just a random shot of an object with fine details in the doormat fibers. Canon R5, 24mm, F/5.6, 1/50 sec handheld. JPEG SOOC, the only post processing was to reduce JPEG quality to 90% to come within UHH limit on file size.


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May 5, 2021 09:21:46   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
David Martin wrote:
Here you may judge sharpness/blurriness for yourself. Just a random shot of an object with fine details in the doormat fibers. Canon R5, 24mm, F/5.6, 1/50 sec handheld. JPEG SOOC, the only post processing was to reduce JPEG quality to 90% to come within UHH limit on file size.


Any nitwit with a browser can click into the upper left corner and see the details are softer at f/5.6 than the ability to count individual fibers in the matt in the center of the frame near the cardinal. Will that nitwit post a comment that sways the opinion of the type who are easily influenced by these types of comments?

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May 5, 2021 09:34:07   #
John Hicks Loc: Sible Hedinham North Essex England
 
I agree with CHG Canon do you really believe any main stream camera company would market a camera that gives blurry results at a slow speed setting on a wide angle lens when the two particular cmaeras are part of the future, I certainly do not and I am surprised anybody on here would do.

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May 5, 2021 10:14:20   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
So, I thought that maybe I could lay this thread to rest, this morning the sun is out so I took a walk around the yard and got some shots of my neighbor's cabin as well as my over grown yard and fire pit. These pics are medium resolution jpegs straight off the camera, on one or two I adjusted wb because it was set manually in the camera to shade and as the sun rose higher I did not switch settings. No sharpening has been done to these images, other than a wb adjustment no other processing has been done. What is amazing to me is that these images were shot handheld, the combination of the image stabilized lens with the IBIS of the Canon R5 resulted in the ability to take images handheld that you would never be able to get with a DSLR. The last image is a crop of the CR3 file that has been processed as I would most any other pic, it is the only image that I applied sharpening with the Photoshop High Pass filter and then I resized it to a smaller file for posting here.

20mm 1/8th Second Exposure
20mm 1/8th Second Exposure...
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16mm 1/25th Second Exposure
16mm 1/25th Second Exposure...
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20mm 1/4 Second Exposure
20mm 1/4 Second Exposure...
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24mm 0.3 Second Esposure
24mm 0.3 Second Esposure...
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CR3 Cropped resized 16mm 1/25th
CR3 Cropped resized 16mm 1/25th...
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May 5, 2021 12:00:39   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
LFingar wrote:
Mention that to BMW, would you please?


OH NO!
BMW drivers are, by definition, incapable of rational driving!
I think you may have to prove you failed your license exam at least three times just to qualify for a test drive of a beemer.
BMW types think the lines on the road is where you aim the middle of you vehicle.

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May 11, 2021 18:31:04   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
DanielB wrote:
I own the R5 and have not and\or have not noticed this problem but I'd be happy to test it out for you and give you my opinion.

I did however just shoot some night home landscapes for a client using bracketed exposure and I was shooting more like 24mm and much slower and had no issues at all.


I haven't forgotten about my testing - I've been particularly busy as of late...and my dang water heater went out on me and I'm really tiered of cold showers...grrr!

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