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Apr 27, 2021 10:00:44   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
btbg wrote:
It is hardly capitalism that may leave people no choice. Electric cars are currently subsidized by the government. Tesla is now the most valuable company in the world, yet they have never been profitable. That is hardly capitalism.

And I'm sure you are correct that the President and his policies are not the only thing that drive the price of gas or any other product. However, He has already shut down the Keystone pipeline and all new oil leases on federal land. That certainly impacts fuel costs.

But the big thing is that in order to meet his goals the price of gas and natural gas must rise exponentially because the only way to cut carbon emissions by that much it to shut down coal and natural gas power plants and get most gasoline powered cars off the road.

That isn't going to happen without substantially raising the price of gasoline. You may well be in favor of the policy, but to say that I'm incorrect in my analysis shows that you have not looked at some of the consequences of current public policy.

Can you honestly say that they aren't going to substantially raise gas prices. How else will they get internal combustion engines off the road. And, that isn't capitalism, that is government interference.

And, you and everyone else who seems to favor electric cars over internal combustion engines have all failed to answer where the additional power is going to come from and how all of this infrastructure is going to be put in place in less than 10 years. You can't even start building a power plant in the first 10 years from when you propose it, so where is all of that power going to come from? Once that is explained, then we might be able to have a discussion.
It is hardly capitalism that may leave people no c... (show quote)


Your 3rd sentence ("Tesla is now the most valuable company in the world") is already wrong. A simple Google search...

TOP 10 Most Valuable Companies in the world
#1. Saudi Aramco. $2,458 bln.
#2. Apple inc. $2,213 bln.
#3. Microsoft. $1,653 bln.
#4. Amazon Inc. $1,596 bln.
#5. Delta Electronics (Thailand) $1,435 bln.
#6. Alphabet Inc. $1,203 bln.
#7. Tesla, Inc. $834 bln.
#8. Facebook. $757 bln.
More items...•Feb. 6, 2021

So why should I believe any of your other claims about electric cars (or face masks!)?

Further to your concerns of charging times, here is a technology based on super capacitor technology that might replace batteries (charge time of minutes, not hours):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEStor

My bicycle head/tail lights assembly uses a supercap to power the light when stopped at an intersection. It takes very little travelling distance for the front wheel generator to charge up the supercap, and when I put the bike into the garage after a ride the light is on for about 3 minutes.

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Apr 27, 2021 10:03:25   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
slocumeddie wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0TtbWfmsaw


And your point is... ????

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Apr 27, 2021 10:29:54   #
DEBJENROB Loc: DELRAY BEACH FL
 
btbg wrote:
It is hardly capitalism that may leave people no choice. Electric cars are currently subsidized by the government. Tesla is now the most valuable company in the world, yet they have never been profitable. That is hardly capitalism.

And I'm sure you are correct that the President and his policies are not the only thing that drive the price of gas or any other product. However, He has already shut down the Keystone pipeline and all new oil leases on federal land. That certainly impacts fuel costs.

But the big thing is that in order to meet his goals the price of gas and natural gas must rise exponentially because the only way to cut carbon emissions by that much it to shut down coal and natural gas power plants and get most gasoline powered cars off the road.

That isn't going to happen without substantially raising the price of gasoline. You may well be in favor of the policy, but to say that I'm incorrect in my analysis shows that you have not looked at some of the consequences of current public policy.

Can you honestly say that they aren't going to substantially raise gas prices. How else will they get internal combustion engines off the road. And, that isn't capitalism, that is government interference.

And, you and everyone else who seems to favor electric cars over internal combustion engines have all failed to answer where the additional power is going to come from and how all of this infrastructure is going to be put in place in less than 10 years. You can't even start building a power plant in the first 10 years from when you propose it, so where is all of that power going to come from? Once that is explained, then we might be able to have a discussion.
It is hardly capitalism that may leave people no c... (show quote)


where did you get the idea that we had a capitalist system ....

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