Gimp VS Photoshop
Apr 20, 2021 00:25:06 #
Apr 20, 2021 00:30:25 #
steinr98 wrote:
Brent:. There is a way you can revert back from Big Sur- Off hand I do not know how but have read there is a way- You might go to the Apple group area(forgot the name of the group). or try U tube. I know it can be done !! Might be your easiest answer...I did not upgrade as it does affect some of Adobe's programs and scanners - Another note for future use- I never upgrade for almost a year as there seems to be "THINGS" that don't show-up right away... If it works- Don't knock it!!
You bring up an excellent point about THINGS.....and waiting for all the bugs to get out with the different patches they always seem to have to make it work right. I appreciate your efforts in trying to get me back on the road with CS6. I think I will be just cave into the subscription fee. At some point in the future CS6 won't work or be so far behind technology that it won't be worth it to try to keep the band aids on. Thanks!
Apr 20, 2021 00:32:03 #
gouldopfl wrote:
Gimp and Darktable are powerful tools. I use Linux... (show quote)
Thanks for your input on this topic!
Apr 20, 2021 00:32:39 #
johngault007 wrote:
Glimpse is a separate branch from GIMP. Both development teams are reported to work with each other on new code, but at the end of the day, each team decides what they add to their own branch.
Apr 20, 2021 00:34:23 #
Moondoggie wrote:
Brent, your "Surf Scenes" are terrific and you should not compromise on your quality photo's. If you are familiar with PS, then that's the way to go.
Moondoggie, I agree with you 100%. I'm not going to compromise quality for $120 a year in cost. Good point.
Apr 20, 2021 00:35:10 #
btbg wrote:
I also find Photoshop to be easier to use than Affinity. I tried the 90 day trial period to see if I could justify canceling my Adobe subscription. I'm still using Adobe and will continue to pay the cost as it seems better than the other choices.
Excellent points. I agree with you! Thanks!
Apr 20, 2021 00:37:02 #
vangoughsear wrote:
My recommendation would be to check out DXO's Photo Lab 2. I don't remember what I paid for it but I think a perpetual license can be had for 150 - 200 USD. It comes with the full Nik collection of plugins and, with the exception of the most advanced image manipulations, it will do anything Photoshop will do.
Thanks vangoughsear for your input and ideas. At this time I'm not really interested in learning a new program. I'm going to pay the $120 a year and be done with it all! Thanks though.
Apr 20, 2021 00:42:48 #
JohnR wrote:
Brent - I've surfed through most of the posts :) o... (show quote)
John, I really appreciate your ideas and suggestions but with technology it always seems to be changing and at some point my CS6 will be so far behind the eight ball that I will feel buried. I'm going to just move ahead and get the most updated OS (Big Sur) and the most advanced PS (CC). I will be using the state of the art stuff and hopefully be a happy camper once again. Thanks!
Apr 20, 2021 00:44:39 #
Railfan_Bill wrote:
Hi Bret, I just started using Gimp and I like it. Understand that I only use it for astrophotography, but the sane levels and curves function are available in Gimp. It also has the layers so that you can go from one layer to another to check on the progress of your work. I am still learning, but for my astro work, it fits the bill. Only thing I need to learn is how to remove the green cast caused by the Bayer filter over the sensor. RFB
Thanks Bill. I'm planning on sticking with PS and will have less of a learning curve to deal with. Less stress is worth big bucks to me!
Apr 20, 2021 00:47:34 #
jcryan wrote:
I have been using GIMP for three years now. There ... (show quote)
Thank you. I have been watching tutorials and been playing with GIMP. After reading many posts of other UHH members I'm thinking I should stick with PS and pay the subscription. I won't have such a huge learning curve to deal with. I will be worth the money in my opinion.
Apr 20, 2021 00:49:41 #
Dennis833 wrote:
I used Photoshop and InDesign for many years before switching to Affinity Photo and recently to Affinity Publisher.
Both programs are great IMO. I found Gimp confusing on a Mac.
Both programs are great IMO. I found Gimp confusing on a Mac.
Thanks Dennis. I appreciate your thoughts. I really don't have a need or desire for a publishing program but would like the latest PS and LR.
Apr 20, 2021 00:51:58 #
smiller999 wrote:
You are not alone in that. I've been a Linux user ... (show quote)
Thanks for your thoughts and input!
Apr 20, 2021 01:04:00 #
sippyjug104 wrote:
Brent, I've used a salad of photo editing and illu... (show quote)
Thanks sippyjug for your input on this topic. I have been playing around with GIMP and Affinity Photo along with tutorials. You are right about the low cost of Affinity and the FREE is also nice with GIMP. The money is not the issue with me. I want to know the program and not have to start over by learning a new program. I appreciate your thoughts though.
Apr 20, 2021 01:05:13 #
Ysarex
Loc: St. Louis
sippyjug104 wrote:
Brent, I've used a salad of photo editing and illu... (show quote)
No. Sippyjug, not to single you out as many others in this thread have made similar claims about GIMP. Your post is just the most recent and someone needs to say no to this misinformation about GIMP. No it can't do all anyone would want.
It can't do what I want and all I want to do is simple stuff like darken a sky -- efficiently. Yes GIMP can do it but not efficiently. GIMP is way too expensive because it's so inefficient. Here's an example. I attached a photo below. It's a straight raw conversion with no additional editing. First job is to darken the sky.
I don't want to just drag a gradient over it because of the tree branches. I want to darken and saturate the sky with little to minor effect on the tree branches and I want to keep the the tops on the trees on the left side looking natural. I also just for reference attached my processed version of the photo so you can see what I want in the sky.
Can GIMP do it? Yes it can, but can it do it easily and efficiently? An emphatic NO! I recorded the steps it takes to just darken the sky using three different apps. Here they are:
Capture One
one mouse click add layer.
one mouse click type value set exp reduction.
one mouse click type value raise saturation.
one mouse click activate luminosity Range.
two mouse clicks adjust luminosity range limits slider.
one mouse click turn off display mask.
two mouse clicks adjust radius & sensitivity sliders
one mouse click OK.
one mouse click activate mask eraser and remove unwanted mask in water and grass -- done.
Photoshop
one mouse click duplicate layer.
one mouse click set blend layer to Multiply.
one mouse click turn off dupe layer.
one mouse click select magic wand.
4 mouse clicks to select the sky.
one mouse click turn back on dupe layer.
one mouse click add layer mask which conforms to selection.
one mouse click to bring up Refine Mask dialog.
4 mouse clicks with slider adjustments to set refine mask parameters.
one mouse click OK.
one mouse click layers palette adjust dupe layer opacity -- done.
GIMP
one mouse click duplicate layer.
one mouse click Colors menu.
one mouse click Desaturate dialog.
one mouse click set parameter to Luminance
one mouse click OK.
one mouse click go to Channels.
one mouse click and drag Green channel to duplicate channel box.
one mouse click back to Layers.
one mouse click select background layer.
one mouse click Select menu Select all.
one mouse click back to Channels.
one right mouse click on dupe channel to bring up sub menu -- select subtract from selection.
one keyboard command Shift Ctrl A to remove selection.
one mouse click go to Layers.
one right mouse click delete the duplicate layer.
one mouse click duplicate background layer.
one right mouse click on dupe layer select add layer mask.
one mouse click in layer mask dialog -- select Mask to Channel.
one mouse click drop menu select green channel copy
one mouse click OK.
one mouse click change blend mode to Multiply.
one mouse click select paint brush.
one mouse click make paint brush big.
one mouse select layer mask.
multiple mouse clicks paint layer mask black everywhere except sky
done.
Notice how much more involved the process is in GIMP. While someone -- assume a GIMP guru is stepping through that I'm finishing the rest of the edit in C1 and I'll be on to another image while the GIMP use is applying another excessively involved and convoluted sequence of steps to try and finish this edit. With serious work to do I get the weekend off and the GIMP guru burns the midnight oil all seven nights of the week.
GIMP in theory could do the job the same way I did it in PS (Affinity can -- if not better) except it can't because it lacks that Refine Mask Edge option in PS (and Affinity) and because in PS you can see what you're doing but in GIMP trying to refine a selection edge is really irritating because you can't get a good look at what you're doing till you do it and then go oops and undo and then redo it and go oops and undo it and then redo it and go oops and then undo it and redo it and then settle because you can't stand it any more. Reading that last sentence is often what it feels like to work in GIMP. Yes GIMP can do it but you don't get the weekend off.
Apr 20, 2021 01:05:54 #
bbqroaster wrote:
I have used gimp briefly but only when I needed a capability outside of Darktable (similar to LR). Darktable is available free for Mac, Windows and Linux.
Thanks! Free is good! lol
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