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Apr 19, 2021 14:55:36   #
vangoughsear Loc: Pittsburgh area
 
My recommendation would be to check out DXO's Photo Lab 2. I don't remember what I paid for it but I think a perpetual license can be had for 150 - 200 USD. It comes with the full Nik collection of plugins and, with the exception of the most advanced image manipulations, it will do anything Photoshop will do.

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Apr 19, 2021 15:04:33   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
BrentHarder wrote:
Recently I made a HUGE error: I got an email message to update my operating system on my Mac to Big Sur. I installed it. Little did I know that I was making my CS6 Photoshop program and others non-functioning. Adobe of course wants everyone to pay a monthly subscription fee to have Photoshop and I am now looking into other options. So far the one I am gravitating to is Gimp. It is similar to Photoshop but no fee. I'm wondering if any of you UHH members have switched over to Gimp and if you have, how do you like it? I've been using Photoshop my whole photographic time and didn't want to have to learn a whole new program. I have downloaded Affinity Photo for the free 90 day trial period but it's not really very user friendly. Thanks for your advice in advance.
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Brent - I've surfed through most of the posts :) on your Big Sur problem and only one mentions the possibility of returning to your previous OS. If you have been using Time Machine for backup then its reasonably easy to go back and you will then have working everything you had before going to Big Sur. Any photos, documents, emails etc since the upgrade will need to be backed up to a separate external HDD as the first part of the process involves erasing Big Sur and everything in it :) You then restore from your last Time Machine backup. Takes a while but has worked perfectly for me on a couple of iMacs now. Everything works as it did before going to Big Sur. I've stopped at Mojave on my iMacs, MacMini and MacBook Pro as I still use Aperture and will continue to do so - see no reason to change. Cheers JohnR

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Apr 19, 2021 15:37:07   #
Railfan_Bill Loc: "Lost Wages", Nevada
 
Hi Bret, I just started using Gimp and I like it. Understand that I only use it for astrophotography, but the sane levels and curves function are available in Gimp. It also has the layers so that you can go from one layer to another to check on the progress of your work. I am still learning, but for my astro work, it fits the bill. Only thing I need to learn is how to remove the green cast caused by the Bayer filter over the sensor. RFB

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Apr 19, 2021 16:28:45   #
jcryan Loc: Las Terrenas, Dominican Republic
 
I have been using GIMP for three years now. There is a learning curve, but there are tutorials out there specifically to help PS users migrate to GIMP. Price is right, you can do most things in multiple ways. You can use it non-distructively or not. It is well supported and continuously improving. It is also extensible via plug-ins, brushes, etc.

Try it out. It costs nothing but some time. I recommend the tutorials by Davies Media Design, including his Udemy class on Photo Editing.

Good luck!

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Apr 19, 2021 17:34:19   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
John N wrote:
Everything I learn is difficult (some sort of dyslexic issue the experts said) but I have found Paintshop Pro a not to hard transition from a previous Elements package.

I also used GIMP when a teacher asked if I could help out with some editing tutorial for disadvantaged kids and found it O.K. At my level it seemed to be just as good as Elements.

I have heard that AFFINITY is harder to get to grips with (Club members) but most seem to think it's worth the effort.

I would take a favourite image and try all the free trials.
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Great advice, Thanks for your thoughts on this topic.

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Apr 19, 2021 17:38:21   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
Gene51 wrote:
One pays for what they get, and one never gets what they don't pay for. Updating your OS to remain current is not necessarily a bad thing. Trying to keep a 9 yr old software application that is no longer supported by the publisher could be very frustrating, as is using less than adequate software, especially if one works in the industry. There are few applications that have the depth and scope of Photoshop and the Adobe ecosystem.


Gene, I've been bouncing around all the options and am leaning towards just caving into the subscription. Photography is one of my passions in life and I do have the money to pay for it. With the subscription I will always have the latest version and won't have to worry about anything like a 9 year old version. You bring up some good points. Thanks.

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Apr 19, 2021 17:50:46   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Updates can be tricky. Sometimes good and sometimes bad. I got two Windows updates two days in a row. No problems, though. I got my three Macs in 2012, and I can no longer update. I guess they've reached Nirvana.

As for being "user friendly," all it takes is practice. The more time you spend with Affinity, the friendlier it will become.


Thanks Jerry for your thoughts on this. I'm kind of leaning in the direction of just paying the money each month.

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Apr 19, 2021 17:52:15   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
yssirk123 wrote:
I've been a photoshop user for ~20 years, and find the $10 monthly subscription a bargain. But if you're absolutely opposed to subscription services, you may want to try Affinity or On1. Out of curiosity I downloaded Gimp several years ago, and decided it just wasn't worth the investment in time.


yssirk123, I'm leaning in the direction of just paying the money. I don't want hassles and it's worth paying to keep my life simple!

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Apr 19, 2021 18:06:30   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Adobe DOES have a $20/month option, which includes more cloud storage. But I don't use the cloud for my photos (I do use it as a backup backup including photos) so I ignore the $20/month subscription and stick with the $10/month version. I'm only interested in the Adobe software, not the Adobe cloud. If you do a lot of mobile work you may have a different view.


DirtFarmer, I'm on board with you all the way. I'm thinking about the exact same things as you.

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Apr 19, 2021 18:11:40   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
You could get a trial of Paint Shop Pro, I've found it easier that both Adobe ( a lot of years ago) or Gimp


Thanks Bob. I've never used Paint Shop Pro, and not really ready to learn a new program right now.

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Apr 19, 2021 18:14:47   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
nikon123 wrote:
.......but somewhat interesting in that the two responders totally ignored the original question. I too am interested in hearing about GIMP. I use the Photos program on my Mac - not bad but has gaps. Perhaps GIMP does not suffer those GAPS.
(Great Photo Application Software). hey - I just developed a name, now I need the program!


GPAS.......catchy name! lol I love it! Personally, I'm leaning on just paying the bucks to have Photoshop and not have to learn a new program.........just the upgrades since CS6.

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Apr 19, 2021 18:21:45   #
BrentHarder Loc: Southern California
 
dpullum wrote:
I was struck by a UT title "I have used PS for 25 y and just discovered that ..." Now that is a learning curve!!!
There are times when cheating by using plugin or stand alone one tune programs do the job quite will and effortlessly. I have used Topaz plugins before Topaz was Topaz. Jixipix is also interesting. Flamingpear has many free and "older" free plugins, being lazy my favorite is R-B swap [part of old free] a click and my 520 nm IR has the sky blue and trees red.. gone is the red sky. Plugins of course will work in GIMP. Affinity is great and upgrades free. There are many editing programs and one need not be chained to Adobe PS or Ltroom

For those who like the word Adobe, PSE is a low-cost choice and works well if you add Elements+. $12
As you walk down the PSE hall many PS doors are there but locked... Elements+ opens those doors so you can use the tools in those rooms just like the big boys who pay Adobe to use PS by the month.

"The "surface" Photoshop Elements functions are quite sufficient for a beginner. As you advance, though, you may miss one or another <many> undocumented functions. Here "Elements+" will be of service to you."
http://elementsplus.net/
http://elementsplus.net/help/en/index.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vkMJ-OB_b4
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Thanks dpullum for your wisdom and links too!!!!

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Apr 19, 2021 19:38:48   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
I used Photoshop and InDesign for many years before switching to Affinity Photo and recently to Affinity Publisher.
Both programs are great IMO. I found Gimp confusing on a Mac.

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Apr 19, 2021 21:08:27   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
User ID wrote:
Two useless trash replies. So typical of UHH. Expect it to get even worse. I too am quite interested in hearing from at least a few actual Gimpsters :-(

Rotsa ruck to us both ...

what a great answer.you're worse then them. Didn't you mother teach you any manners or the golden rule abut doing to others as you want them to do unto you

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Apr 19, 2021 21:51:55   #
smiller999 Loc: Corpus Christi
 
wildweasel wrote:
I guess I am the strange bird here, I am a Linux user and have been for 30 years and have only ever used GIMP along with programs like Darktable, Raw Therapee and Digikam, all free and open source, and I find them all to be able and capable to do what I need to do. Any new software will require a learning curve and it just comes down to what time you are willing to invest to learn it. There are many youtube videos for learning GIMP as well as the others.


You are not alone in that. I've been a Linux user since 1998, and have found GIMP more than meets my needs. If you are not a pro you likely don't need the color management features that really make PS the choice for many. I've played a bit with layers and masks, and they are capable enough for anything I've tried to do. And the companion application Darktable will probably satisfy your RAW needs, unless you have a pretty new camera (my version doesn't handle CR3 (from the EOS R5) yet, but it should soon).

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