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Apr 14, 2021 10:42:24   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
anotherview wrote:
Your screed overlooks the popular v**e resulting in a handful of states deciding the presidency.


You have a scewed vue of v****g. The popular v**e results in the majority of American citizens deciding the presidency. Where they live is inconsequential. One person, one v**e. That's the way it should be.
With the E*******l College the e******n is decided by a few states also, but they are the least populated.

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Apr 14, 2021 10:49:24   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
anotherview wrote:
The EC functions inclusively to spread political power. In contrast, the popular v**e for President by effect concentrates political power in a few heavily populated states. Your text makes no mention of this distortion.


Your complaint seems to be that when people congregate and discuss things, they come to conclusions that you don't like.

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Apr 14, 2021 12:08:12   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Frank T wrote:
You have a scewed vue of v****g. The popular v**e results in the majority of American citizens deciding the presidency. Where they live is inconsequential. One person, one v**e. That's the way it should be.
With the E*******l College the e******n is decided by a few states also, but they are the least populated.


We have a Federal government. That's why we are the United States and not the United People.

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Apr 14, 2021 14:08:45   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Fotoartist wrote:
We have a Federal government. That's why we are the United States and not the United People.


So you believe the essence of America is it government.
I believe the people are the most important element and the essence of our country.

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Apr 14, 2021 14:26:21   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Fotoartist wrote:
We have a Federal government. That's why we are the United States and not the United People.


I hope you realize that makes absolutely no sense.

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Apr 14, 2021 18:29:04   #
cwp3420
 
thom w wrote:
There are many excuses I would accept for typos. Being too lazy isn't one of them, and as long as that is how much respect you have for your readers, I refuse to be one. On my laziest day, I wouldn't try to use lazy as an excuse. I find your attitude contemptible.


You’ve made plenty of typos in your time on here, troll, and you just described how we feel about you.

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Apr 14, 2021 20:04:43   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
cwp3420 wrote:
You’ve made plenty of typos in your time on here, troll, and you just described how we feel about you.



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Apr 14, 2021 20:25:55   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
cwp3420 wrote:
You’ve made plenty of typos in your time on here, troll, and you just described how we feel about you.


and none of them was because I just couldn't be bothered. You are one of the reasons I know Rose isn't a serious person. She never calls you out, and you come here exclusively to troll. Just who is "we"?

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Apr 14, 2021 20:52:57   #
cwp3420
 
thom w wrote:
and none of them was because I just couldn't be bothered. You are one of the reasons I know Rose isn't a serious person. She never calls you out, and you come here exclusively to troll. Just who is "we"?


“We” are all the conservatives who disagree vehemently with your picture of what America should be. As far as trolling, I read, ask, and answer questions and respond to those that do. You on the other hand write crap with your snide little innuendos, and then no one hears from you again until you feebly try and insult one of us. However, when someone engages you in an attempt to have a conversation with you, you run quickly to mommy’s basement until she can soothe your frayed, tender feelings. Now, true to self, you attack Rose when she isn’t even in this conversation. You’re a h**eful little man. Funny that no other liberal on here never comes to your defense or even gives you a thumbs up for your posts. Face it, even “your” side doesn’t support you. Ergo, you’re the true definition of a troll. You’re just not intelligent enough to realize it. Now, Princess, run back to mommy and hide under her skirt.

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Apr 14, 2021 21:15:27   #
Rose42
 
thom w wrote:
and none of them was because I just couldn't be bothered. You are one of the reasons I know Rose isn't a serious person. She never calls you out, and you come here exclusively to troll. Just who is "we"?


Oh but I have...troll. You never call out Frank, mjmoore (wh**ever) or any other left winger no matter how depraved the comment.

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Apr 15, 2021 01:44:55   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Wikipedia has a useful write-up of the the E*******l College: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_E*******l_College. It touches on your concern regarding proportionality.
CWGordon wrote:
another view: I disagree in part with your conclusions.

a.). I think small states get an e*******l v**e for far fewer people than are needed to get a larger state a v**e.

b.). I think it is part of Democracy that the majority should win e******ns.

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Apr 15, 2021 11:41:09   #
trainspotter Loc: Oregon
 
cwp3420 wrote:
You’ve made plenty of typos in your time on here, troll, and you just described how we feel about you.



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Apr 15, 2021 16:00:43   #
neillaubenthal
 
Frank T wrote:
The e*******l college is a throwback to appeasing the s***e states and has outlived its usefulness. When you look at it closely you'll find things like why North and South Dakota are two different states, yet now, Washington DC becoming a state is adamantly opposed by the GOP, and the only reason I can discern is that they are mostly Democrats that live there.
In the end, it will take a Constitutional Amendment to eliminate it, so the debate about it is pretty useless. Perhaps the National Popular V**e agreement can bypass it, if enough states sign on.
Meanwhile, the GOP will fight tooth and nail to keep it intact because they are losing the populace and can onlyhope to remain in power by c***ting.
The e*******l college is a throwback to appeasing ... (show quote)


They were all s***e states when the Constitution was ratified…so your argument is bogus.

That said…there's a way to get rid of the E*******l College…it's called a constitutional amendment…and that very document spells out the procedure for doing so. I suggest that those in favor of eliminating it and going with popular v**e…simply follow the approved process.

The National Popular V**e Compact will never be passed…because the small states won't v**e to eliminate their ability to have a say in the e******n of the President…and even if it was approved it is very likely unconstitutional since the EC is specified in the constitition. Several states have withdrawn from the pact and been told that their entrance is permanent and cannot be rescinded…again most likely unconstitutional.

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Apr 17, 2021 01:50:33   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Good points to keep in mind. The EC is here to stay for sound political reasons. It has worked in our dear nation for more than 200 years.
neillaubenthal wrote:
They were all s***e states when the Constitution was ratified…so your argument is bogus.

That said…there's a way to get rid of the E*******l College…it's called a constitutional amendment…and that very document spells out the procedure for doing so. I suggest that those in favor of eliminating it and going with popular v**e…simply follow the approved process.

The National Popular V**e Compact will never be passed…because the small states won't v**e to eliminate their ability to have a say in the e******n of the President…and even if it was approved it is very likely unconstitutional since the EC is specified in the constitition. Several states have withdrawn from the pact and been told that their entrance is permanent and cannot be rescinded…again most likely unconstitutional.
They were all s***e states when the Constitution w... (show quote)

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