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Could Steroid use have contributed to G****e F***d's death?
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Apr 12, 2021 19:20:28   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
I am not ignoring the knee on his neck, or trying to justify a case of extreme police brutality. The points I have been trying to make were that if Mr. Floyd lived a healthier lifestyle, he might have survived the arrest. Had he not put up resistance, he probably would have survived the arrest, and if he refrained from participating in criminal activities, he would not have been arrested in the first place.


TWICE TODAY i agree with your every word.

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Apr 12, 2021 19:27:09   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
I am not ignoring the knee on his neck, or trying to justify a case of extreme police brutality. The points I have been trying to make were that if Mr. Floyd lived a healthier lifestyle, he might have survived the arrest. Had he not put up resistance, he probably would have survived the arrest, and if he refrained from participating in criminal activities, he would not have been arrested in the first place.

G****e F***d was without oxygen for over 3 minutes.

No one can survive without oxygen.

Have you tried to hold your breath for that length of time?

What happened?

How long were you actually able to hold your breath?

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Apr 12, 2021 19:36:40   #
Triple G
 
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
I am not ignoring the knee on his neck, or trying to justify a case of extreme police brutality. The points I have been trying to make were that if Mr. Floyd lived a healthier lifestyle, he might have survived the arrest. Had he not put up resistance, he probably would have survived the arrest, and if he refrained from participating in criminal activities, he would not have been arrested in the first place.


And, many others have made those exact same bad choices and are still alive. They weren’t stopped by Chauvin.

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Apr 12, 2021 19:41:32   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
With the high profile G****e F***d murder case almost upon us, battle lines are drawn between both sides of the racial/political divide. To the B*M crowd, and their l*****t supporters, his death is entirely the fault of the r****t white "pig". To those at the other end, Floyd's own actions, along with his underlying medical conditions are to blame, and the officer was simply doing his job. As a physician with over 35 years of practice, and no particular bias in the black vs blue conflict, I feel the t***h lies somewhere in between. What struck me most from the medical standpoint was the degree of c****ary atherosclerosis in someone with such a superb physique and low body fat. From my years of experience as a doctor and gym rat, this points to anabolic steroid use, at some point in his life. From his past history, it is safe to say that he was genetically gifted with extreme athleticism and the ability to build muscles with little effort, due in part to a higher than average testosterone level, which not only enabled muscle building, but overall increased his level of agressiveness. Throw in a shot of "roids" from time to time, and you have the perfect storm for a mean, strong SOB, along with a body that looked magnificent on the outside, but falling apart on the inside, with his cardiovascular health wrecked by a combination of high endogenous testosterone, exogenous steroids, and his unhealth lifestyle of smoking, drinking and street drug use. His erratic disposition is also common in steroid users
With the high profile G****e F***d murder case alm... (show quote)


I find it amusing how white people attempt to justify their actions against persons of color.

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Apr 12, 2021 19:46:11   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
RixPix wrote:
I find it amusing how white people attempt to justify their actions against persons of color.


Funny how people see only what they want to see. I in no way justified Chauvin's actions and hope he is convicted of criminal charges. I am just pointing out things in Floyd's lifestyle that put him where he was. This wasn't a case of a black man targeted by KKK members for his race. It was a case of a man who happened to be black being arrested by a rogue cop after commiting a crime

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Apr 12, 2021 19:49:02   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
Funny how people see only what they want to see. I in no way justified Chauvin's actions and hope he is convicted of criminal charges. I am just pointing out things in Floyd's lifestyle that put him where he was. BTW, I am not totally white. I am 1/8 native american and 1/4 jewish


So you are white.

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Apr 12, 2021 19:55:46   #
Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So you are white.


Depends on whom you ask. Were I to walk down a street in Nairobi, Kenya, the answer would be yes. If you asked the folks on the W***e S*********t website "Stormfront", the answer would be no

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Apr 12, 2021 19:56:01   #
GeorgeH Loc: Jonesboro, GA
 
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
I am not ignoring the knee on his neck, or trying to justify a case of extreme police brutality. The points I have been trying to make were that if Mr. Floyd lived a healthier lifestyle, he might have survived the arrest. Had he not put up resistance, he probably would have survived the arrest, and if he refrained from participating in criminal activities, he would not have been arrested in the first place.


...and if he refrained from participating in criminal activities, he would not have been arrested in the first place."[/quote]

Would you concede that Mr Floyd may not have known that the bill was counterfeit? Is that possible? I seriously doubt that ANYONE could have survived nine minutes plus of the sort of knee on the neck. And lets admit that Mr Chauvin had ample warning that Mr Floyd was unable to breathe. Mr Chauvin need to be separated from society in some way or another for the rest of his life.

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Apr 13, 2021 07:26:54   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
How we live our life brings consequences, good, bad, and indifferent. The sad saga of Mr. Floyd presents an example in stark terms of this governing dynamic. His drug use, his medical ills, and his criminal activity together culminated in a fatal confrontation with the police. The physical facts document this side of the matter.

The saga continues in a court of law. Its outcome there we await. Let us hope the jury takes account of all verifiable facts and information in its deliberations. A verdict from the working of this process hopefully serves justice.
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
I am not ignoring the knee on his neck, or trying to justify a case of extreme police brutality. The points I have been trying to make were that if Mr. Floyd lived a healthier lifestyle, he might have survived the arrest. Had he not put up resistance, he probably would have survived the arrest, and if he refrained from participating in criminal activities, he would not have been arrested in the first place.

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Apr 13, 2021 12:10:05   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
anotherview wrote:
How we live our life brings consequences, good, bad, and indifferent. The sad saga of Mr. Floyd presents an example in stark terms of this governing dynamic. His drug use, his medical ills, and his criminal activity together culminated in a fatal confrontation with the police. The physical facts document this side of the matter.

The saga continues in a court of law. Its outcome there we await. Let us hope the jury takes account of all verifiable facts and information in its deliberations. A verdict from the working of this process hopefully serves justice.
How we live our life brings consequences, good, ba... (show quote)


What is most important is the knee on his neck. None of the other figures into his death. That is the only thing that matters.

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Apr 13, 2021 12:43:48   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
Funny how people see only what they want to see. I in no way justified Chauvin's actions and hope he is convicted of criminal charges. I am just pointing out things in Floyd's lifestyle that put him where he was. This wasn't a case of a black man targeted by KKK members for his race. It was a case of a man who happened to be black being arrested by a rogue cop after commiting a crime


No one know if he committed a crime or not. It is not a crime to unwittingly pass counterfeit money. It is only a crime if he knew and intent in defrauding the merchant .

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Apr 13, 2021 23:33:11   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Untrue.
mjmoore17 wrote:
What is most important is the knee on his neck. None of the other figures into his death. That is the only thing that matters.

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