Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)

With the high profile G****e F***d murder case almost upon us, battle lines are drawn between both sides of the racial/political divide. To the B*M crowd, and their l*****t supporters, his death is entirely the fault of the r****t white "pig". To those at the other end, Floyd's own actions, along with his underlying medical conditions are to blame, and the officer was simply doing his job. As a physician with over 35 years of practice, and no particular bias in the black vs blue conflict, I feel the t***h lies somewhere in between. What struck me most from the medical standpoint was the degree of c****ary atherosclerosis in someone with such a superb physique and low body fat. From my years of experience as a doctor and gym rat, this points to anabolic steroid use, at some point in his life. From his past history, it is safe to say that he was genetically gifted with extreme athleticism and the ability to build muscles with little effort, due in part to a higher than average testosterone level, which not only enabled muscle building, but overall increased his level of agressiveness. Throw in a shot of "roids" from time to time, and you have the perfect storm for a mean, strong SOB, along with a body that looked magnificent on the outside, but falling apart on the inside, with his cardiovascular health wrecked by a combination of high endogenous testosterone, exogenous steroids, and his unhealth lifestyle of smoking, drinking and street drug use. His erratic disposition is also common in steroid users

IDguy Loc: Idaho

There is no question he was on drugs. But that does not excuse the police officer’s behavior. I don’t see it as a r****t issue. It is a brutal police officer that should have been fired many times before. He is guilty of murder, period.

Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)

maybe not murder, but definitely manslaughter. He was even meaner than floyd.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

And by coincidence his drug: lifestyle etc death happened when a knee was his neck?

One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID

Let the t***h see the light of day, he kind of brought it on himself.

Triple G

Nothing excuses the actions of the officers.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

Floyd was a thuggin, but it doesnt excuse the officers action.
That man was subdued.
The law that I remember is that if someone attacks me and I defend myself.
If start to get the best of the attacker and he says I give up u win and I keep on beating up on him I then become the assailant.
The only thing I disagree with about Floyd.
He should not be celebrated like some martered hero.

Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)

Well said; Floyd was basically a bad person, but being a bad person is not a capital offense, and being a cop is not the same as being judge, jury, and executioner.

soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca

Yep, no one is above the law

Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)

His behavior and lifestyle put him in harm's way; Officer Chavin did the harm

Frank T Loc: New York, NY

There's a lot of second guessing going on here about cause of death. I think you all need to remember that the cause of death was ruled a homicide by the medical examiner.
Think of it like this. If you were in an intensive care unit suffering from terminal cancer and someone came in and shot you in the head, what would the cause of death be?

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

O.J. was for a while.

mikee

He did not put a knee on his own neck!

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

He “ brought @ getting k**led on himself ????

mwalsh Loc: Houston

The far right keeps talking about the left treating Floyd as a hero, a role model, and a martyr.

Maybe they are right about the martyr aspect...but I don't even see that. Martyrs are k**led because they stood for something...they are victims. To me Floyd was definitely a victim. His criminal past and imperfections make him no less a victim. He was subdued, had stopped resisting, had been cuffed within minutes of the interaction.

But I really don't remember the left calling him a hero...maybe some did.

To me it is not about him being a hero...he was hardly a role model. But his actions that day were no excuse for his death.

The lead homicide detective, who I believe has been called the highest rank officer on the force and the police chief have both testified that Chauvin broke protocols and stated on the stand that his actions were unjustified and were out of compliance with the department's training.

So the two top cops have thrown Chaucin under the bus for his actions that day.

Floyd's past is irrelevant.