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Mar 31, 2021 22:19:09   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
I wanted to work on your first image. You mentioned it was an overcast day so I used one of my skies I shot that show an overcast day breaking up.
1) I started by opening your photo in Photoshop's camera raw, opened the shadows and increased whites showing the eagle's beauty.
2)Next step was using Photoshop's sky Replacement. When it does its thing you will have a sky mask.
3) Next got one of my skies, I thought to be appropriate for this picture, and placed it just above my eagle.
4) I dragged the sky mask that photoshop previously made and used it with my own sky picture.
5) Now deleted the photoshop sky group as I no longer needed it.
6) I highlighted my mask held Alt/Option key and clicked. You will now just see the mask in B&W. I wanted my white areas cleaner so I got my white brush and choose at the top changed the Mode: to Color Dodge set opacity to around 45% and painted over the whole image. Hit Alt/Option key and clicked to get back to normal setting on the mask.
7) I saw a lot of color fringing in Purple, blue, and yellow. I selected the eagle layer and opened in Camera raw. Selected Defringe and used the eye dropper tool to select the purple fringing color when I did the purple fringing disappeared instantly. Not sure if I could have done the next two steps at the same time but I reopened camera raw filter Selected Defringe and used the eye dropper tool to select the blue fringing color. Did it one more time for the yellow fringing area
8) Last step I saw that some of the limbs were fading out, week. I made a new blank layer. Highlighted and clicked my mask went Select>Inverse moved to my newest blank layer and painted a dark brown over the limbs that needed improvement.
I wanted to work on your first image. You mentione... (show quote)


Very nice result to what you did Jim. Your choice of the sky couldn't have been much better. The edges look good as you strengthened and neutralized them. Improved exposure on the eagle helps a lot. Subtlety done. It could still use contrast and perhaps lightening to the head though.

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Mar 31, 2021 22:39:05   #
Jim-Pops Loc: Granbury, Texas
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Very nice result to what you did Jim. Your choice of the sky couldn't have been much better. The edges look good as you strengthened and neutralized them. Improved exposure on the eagle helps a lot. Subtlety done. It could still use contrast and perhaps lightening to the head though.


You'r correct about the head. I went back and fixed it now the eagle looks more ominous.

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Mar 31, 2021 22:43:23   #
Overthehill1
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
I wanted to work on your first image. You mentioned it was an overcast day so I used one of my skies I shot that show an overcast day breaking up.
1) I started by opening your photo in Photoshop's camera raw, opened the shadows and increased whites showing the eagle's beauty.
2)Next step was using Photoshop's sky Replacement. When it does its thing you will have a sky mask.
3) Next got one of my skies, I thought to be appropriate for this picture, and placed it just above my eagle.
4) I dragged the sky mask that photoshop previously made and used it with my own sky picture.
5) Now deleted the photoshop sky group as I no longer needed it.
6) I highlighted my mask held Alt/Option key and clicked. You will now just see the mask in B&W. I wanted my white areas cleaner so I got my white brush and choose at the top changed the Mode: to Color Dodge set opacity to around 45% and painted over the whole image. Hit Alt/Option key and clicked to get back to normal setting on the mask.
7) I saw a lot of color fringing in Purple, blue, and yellow. I selected the eagle layer and opened in Camera raw. Selected Defringe and used the eye dropper tool to select the purple fringing color when I did the purple fringing disappeared instantly. Not sure if I could have done the next two steps at the same time but I reopened camera raw filter Selected Defringe and used the eye dropper tool to select the blue fringing color. Did it one more time for the yellow fringing area
8) Last step I saw that some of the limbs were fading out, week. I made a new blank layer. Highlighted and clicked my mask went Select>Inverse moved to my newest blank layer and painted a dark brown over the limbs that needed improvement.
I wanted to work on your first image. You mentione... (show quote)


That sky is a perfect fit.

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Apr 1, 2021 07:58:50   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Nice job Jim!

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Apr 1, 2021 08:19:00   #
MCHUGH Loc: Jacksonville, Texas
 
tommystrat wrote:
Both Photoshop 2021 and Luminar 4 offer very good sky replacement features. Both come with stock sky photos, or you can use your own images and import them. Luminar has a free trial so maybe download that program and give the sky replacement a try and see what develops!


You said you can import your own images in 2021 but how do you do that. I have tried and failed what am I doing wrong? I really would appreciate your help. I really like the PSE 2021 program.

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Apr 1, 2021 08:54:33   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
MCHUGH wrote:
You said you can import your own images in 2021 but how do you do that. I have tried and failed what am I doing wrong? I really would appreciate your help. I really like the PSE 2021 program.

You have PS Elements? If yes, you tried the Guided Edit section with new sky replacement option? If yes, see this thread: https://photoshopelementsandmore.com/thread/7240/sky-replacement-pse-2021-example

Looks like quite a few hoops to jump through to use your own image in Guided Edits. There are other ways (I have PSE 2018), including working with layers in Expert Mode. If that thread doesn't answer your question, please start a new topic with more info. Be specific about where you hit a roadblock.

If you need additional sky files, there are several in this library you may borrow
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-630884-1.html

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Apr 1, 2021 10:30:26   #
MCHUGH Loc: Jacksonville, Texas
 
Thanks for your reply. I know how to replace the sky using layers it is not difficult but I also like the replacing the sky in the Guided Edits. I use the sky images in it but would like to use my own sky images in many of my photos. I know you can import your own sky images in PS but I have not found a way to do this in PSE 2021. I don't have PS and really don't need it. I can do all that I need to do in PSE 2021 which is what I use. It is just so much faster and easier with the Guided Edits than using layers for sky replacement.

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Apr 1, 2021 10:46:17   #
MCHUGH Loc: Jacksonville, Texas
 
I did check out the thread you suggested and will try it. There are several of the shy images in the selections that I will not likely use so replacement will be OK. Thanks again for your help. UHH always comes to the rescue.

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Apr 1, 2021 10:58:45   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
MCHUGH wrote:
Thanks for your reply. I know how to replace the sky using layers it is not difficult but I also like the replacing the sky in the Guided Edits. I use the sky images in it but would like to use my own sky images in many of my photos. I know you can import your own sky images in PS but I have not found a way to do this in PSE 2021. I don't have PS and really don't need it. I can do all that I need to do in PSE 2021 which is what I use. It is just so much faster and easier with the Guided Edits than using layers for sky replacement.
Thanks for your reply. I know how to replace the ... (show quote)
OK, well the link I gave first is for a discussion thread about how to force your own image into the Guided sky replacement. Good luck!

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Apr 1, 2021 11:44:20   #
MCHUGH Loc: Jacksonville, Texas
 
Linda I enjoyed the link. Not being any good with computers I have not been able to find the file I need on this new Windows 10 system I have. Will have to do some more learning of Windows 10 but I am really stubborn so I will keep working on this.

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Apr 1, 2021 11:56:54   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
Jim-Pops wrote:
I wanted to work on your first image. You mentioned it was an overcast day so I used one of my skies I shot that show an overcast day breaking up.
1) I started by opening your photo in Photoshop's camera raw, opened the shadows and increased whites showing the eagle's beauty.
2)Next step was using Photoshop's sky Replacement. When it does its thing you will have a sky mask.
3) Next got one of my skies, I thought to be appropriate for this picture, and placed it just above my eagle.
4) I dragged the sky mask that photoshop previously made and used it with my own sky picture.
5) Now deleted the photoshop sky group as I no longer needed it.
6) I highlighted my mask held Alt/Option key and clicked. You will now just see the mask in B&W. I wanted my white areas cleaner so I got my white brush and choose at the top changed the Mode: to Color Dodge set opacity to around 45% and painted over the whole image. Hit Alt/Option key and clicked to get back to normal setting on the mask.
7) I saw a lot of color fringing in Purple, blue, and yellow. I selected the eagle layer and opened in Camera raw. Selected Defringe and used the eye dropper tool to select the purple fringing color when I did the purple fringing disappeared instantly. Not sure if I could have done the next two steps at the same time but I reopened camera raw filter Selected Defringe and used the eye dropper tool to select the blue fringing color. Did it one more time for the yellow fringing area
8) Last step I saw that some of the limbs were fading out, week. I made a new blank layer. Highlighted and clicked my mask went Select>Inverse moved to my newest blank layer and painted a dark brown over the limbs that needed improvement.
I wanted to work on your first image. You mentione... (show quote)


Wow, that is very nice work!


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Apr 1, 2021 12:51:32   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I've sent you a private message. Apologies to the OP for this long hijack. It is never a good idea to start a separate conversation in someone else's thread

MCHUGH wrote:
Linda I enjoyed the link. Not being any good with computers I have not been able to find the file I need on this new Windows 10 system I have. Will have to do some more learning of Windows 10 but I am really stubborn so I will keep working on this.

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Apr 1, 2021 15:18:47   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Rongnongno wrote:
There is nothing ambiguous or left to interpretation in the section policies.

If you had complained about another user and not been the op I would have ignored it.

Since I am a moderator I am held at a higher standard.

If you try to make something out of it, good luck.

- Threads are created for a purpose by a single individual. The OP controls the content, not the section moderator (unless the thread does not fit the section). This means if an OP complains to one of the active section moderator the complaint will be reviewed. The moderator's reaction will be dictated by the section policies.
There is nothing ambiguous or left to interpretati... (show quote)


Rongnongno, one of the two Monitors said the following: "If you try to make something out of it, good luck." That sounds suspiciously like a threat. I was afraid something like this was going to happen, with the change of Moderators.

I, for one, will no longer post in PPDI until the Moderator is removed and/or replaced. Threats have no place in this Forum or on UHH.

Jack

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Apr 2, 2021 09:20:33   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Rongnongno, one of the two Monitors said the following: "If you try to make something out of it, good luck." That sounds suspiciously like a threat. I was afraid something like this was going to happen, with the change of Moderators.

I, for one, will no longer post in PPDI until the Moderator is removed and/or replaced. Threats have no place in this Forum or on UHH.

Jack

I think Ron misunderstood my intent, and he took my comments as a threat to HIM. I'm a huge proponent of allowing others to comment and edit others pictures at least in the PP forum, so I would never threaten anyone for doing so, particularly the moderator, so that was a mistake on his part. He misinterpreted my intent, not the first time it's happened to me.

My opinion is the rules here should state if you post a pic in the PP forum expect that others will comment and show their edits at will. If you wish to show your work w/o risk of this, ALL the other forums are available to protect your precious work. It's not my forum, nor my web site, so that's just a personal opinion. It seems a rare occasion when one posts a pic here and is asked, that they refuse to allow others to show their edits. By rare, I think it might be never, so it's a rule few in this forum seem to care about.

Anyway I wish you would reconsider leaving the group, as it would be a loss to the forum if you left.

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Apr 3, 2021 06:14:11   #
twosummers Loc: Melbourne Australia or Lincolnshire England
 
Here you go! (lovely original too)


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