If you shoot wildlife is it the camera or the lens?
Mar 3, 2021 19:59:05 #
shooting wildlife now, I would go for a better camera , faster processing bigger buffer etc.
Mar 3, 2021 20:02:29 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
If it is the photographer that i makes /i the sh... (show quote)
#2: I would take the Canon R6 for 2499.00 from B&H and the Canon 200-400 with built in 1.4 used, also from B&H for 6999.95. This fills the bill and would be an excellent combination for birding. Didn't specify if the lens had to be new, the new price for this lens is almost 11,000 but the used price fits your options.
Mar 3, 2021 20:03:09 #
Blaster34 wrote:
What do they say most often; "buy the best glass you can."
Yeah, “they” say that. And the more oftener they say it the more sillier it sounds. But Polly craves crackers.
Mar 3, 2021 20:11:26 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
That wasn't the options I offered. 
True but nobody around here ever pays any attention to an OP’s actual query.
Mar 3, 2021 20:36:35 #
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Mar 4, 2021 07:29:12 #
"is it the camera or the lens?"
is it the lens or the available light?
is it the camera or the speed or the subject?
is it the size of the sensor or the speed or the memory card?
is it leaving the memory card at home or forgetting to take off the lens cap?
These either or questions leave me cold. They are seldom useful and often (as in nearly always) misleading.
It is not the camera OR the lens. It is both. And they have to be appropriately paired to the task at hand.
These kind of questions and the comments they elicit lead one to prioritize a single element over the system. As a great ornithologists once told me,
"If you can't see the forest for the trees, don't worry about it, try to see both. Then look for everything that is not forest or tree. Those are the birds. Which is what we are out here looking for!"
is it the lens or the available light?
is it the camera or the speed or the subject?
is it the size of the sensor or the speed or the memory card?
is it leaving the memory card at home or forgetting to take off the lens cap?
These either or questions leave me cold. They are seldom useful and often (as in nearly always) misleading.
It is not the camera OR the lens. It is both. And they have to be appropriately paired to the task at hand.
These kind of questions and the comments they elicit lead one to prioritize a single element over the system. As a great ornithologists once told me,
"If you can't see the forest for the trees, don't worry about it, try to see both. Then look for everything that is not forest or tree. Those are the birds. Which is what we are out here looking for!"
Mar 4, 2021 08:18:46 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
If it is the photographer that i makes /i the sh... (show quote)
#2: Jack, 15 months ago I got a used D850 for $2200 and then a new 500mm pf for $3600. A few add-ons (filters, jumbo battery, etc) for $600. So the total is much less than your total. A used D500 would be even less.
Mar 4, 2021 08:41:38 #
Mar 4, 2021 09:10:30 #
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Can you elaborate on your idea of 3 different cameras. I primarily use my 1Dx MkII but only consider it one camera or more appropriately camera body...
Scott Kelby points this out in his original critique of the 1 DX. Go into the tools menu and then to custom settings. Here the user can create three entirely different collections of settings under C1, C2, and C3. Each is effectively a different camera.
Most serious photographers with whom I have shot in the field prefer to carry multiple lenses and one body. They feel the lens is simply an extension of the body. Any lens can fit any body, as long as mounts match.
This too remains a personal preference, as does most photographic equipment.
Cheers.
Mar 4, 2021 12:10:56 #
dsmeltz wrote:
"is it the camera or the lens?" br is it... (show quote)
Answer to dsmeltz Great non answer to a simple question: No.1 or No.2. I'm assuming you consider yourself a competent wildlife photographer and giving a simple answer to a simple question should not be difficult.
Mar 4, 2021 13:03:23 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
Answer to dsmeltz Great non answer to a simple question: No.1 or No.2. I'm assuming you consider yourself a competent wildlife photographer and giving a simple answer to a simple question should not be difficult.
A rational answer to a foolish question? When you stick the word "or" into a question where the issue is NOT an either or, the asker is responsible for the response.
Anyone who gives an answer where the choice between two sides of a false dichotomy, is more foolish than the one who asked the question.
I was trying to be as nice as this issue deserved. But idiotic comments like yours deserve derision.
If you want to send someone (possibly even the OP if they are honestly confused, in this case) down a foolish rabbit hole, shame on you! No one has yet to successfully defend the camera or lens basis of this issue. If you really believe that such a choice (without knowing the base line of the current equipment or what type of birding photos are being sought) is rational, please hand in your photographer card to the nearest shredder!
Mar 4, 2021 13:06:49 #
cactuspic
Loc: Dallas, TX
I would buy a Canon R5 camera body and a used Canon 100-500 though I might have to wait a bit for the lens as they are still a little rare on the uses market. I would also look at gray market versions of the lens.
Mar 4, 2021 14:00:07 #
I would choose #1 and don't shoot wild life.
Fuji GFX-100s for $6000 and Fujinon GF 80mm f/1.7 for $2300.
Fuji GFX-100s for $6000 and Fujinon GF 80mm f/1.7 for $2300.
Mar 5, 2021 13:21:06 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
If it is the photographer that i makes /i the sh... (show quote)
# 2 Canon 500 L, 300-2.8 L, 70-200 L others, get the best glass you can.
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