I've got film in my deep-freeze. I will use it whenever the mood / situation arises. I have plenty of (Dry) chemistry for the processing. Film was the norm' when I took an interest in Photography (1947).
CHG_CANON wrote:
The only people shooting film in 2021 are fossils, the idle rich and hipsters from Brooklyn.
(And several UHH community members.)
Welcome aboard!
Hey! I resemble that remark!
I have never used a medium format.
How are you doing digging yourself out of the white stuff?
Curmudgeon wrote:
From an old time retiree, its been over 20 years now.
Stan, you haven't yet quite understood what retirement means. Retirement does not mean you shouldn't be busy but it does mean that
you have first call on your time. It's time to train the "other people"! Let them wait, shoot and process the rest of the film, scan the negatives you have.
It's time for you to stop and smell the roses.
JMHO take it for what it's worth
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There is nothing wrong with retirement. I have a few hobbies I’m waiting to dig my fingernails into.
jeryh
Loc: Oxfordshire UK
I still have all my film gear-Hasselblad 501 CM, Leica, Nikon, and contax 35mm. I still think Film is very valid- it is very expensive though !
With film, it's expensive when you shoot a lot and costs very little when you don't shoot. And with digital, it doesn't cost anything more between the first and one thousandth image, but you still have to pay for the Photoshop subscription even when you shoot zero.
While true, the expense of the monthly Adobe subscription -- $9.99 last I looked -- barely adds any weight to the cost profile of doing digital photography. The price includes the full Photoshop, Adobe Camera Raw, and Bridge, along with periodic updates and new additions.
I repeat what I've learned from film photographers who switched to digital, that it affords more control over the process. That's the argument from practicality. Some former film photographers also mention that they do not miss all the chemicals, smells, and mess from developing film.
All the same, film photography offers its own side to doing photography. I repeat another opinion of mine: Film photography laid the foundation for modern photography.
CHG_CANON wrote:
With film, it's expensive when you shoot a lot and costs very little when you don't shoot. And with digital, it doesn't cost anything more between the first and one thousandth image, but you still have to pay for the Photoshop subscription even when you shoot zero.
CHG_CANON wrote:
The only people shooting film in 2021 are fossils, the idle rich and hipsters from Brooklyn.
(And several UHH community members.)
Welcome aboard!
Pretend as you may, you are not qualified to say how others ought to enjoy their photography.
Jery, not really.
Film expense:
1 roll of 100ft Ilford HP5 - $80.00
1 liter of developer Ilford DD-X - $20.00
1 gallon of Kodak fixer - $13.00
100 feet of film yields 18 rolls of 36 exposures Cost per exposure $0.12
1 liter of developer - 50 rolls or 900 exposures Cost per exposure $0.02
1 gallon of fixer - 50 rolls or 900 exposures Cost per exposure $0.01
Thus, each exposure costs $0.15
A Nikon D850 is priced at 3000. Thus for the cost of a Nikon D850 one could shoot 20000 photographs.
For 120 film that's 4,751 exposures using 2-1/4x2-3/4 cameras and 5,660 exposures for 2-1/4x2-1/4 format
Using 4x5 film will provide me 1,477 exposures.
So, all in all, it's not as expensive as one might profess.
--Bob
jeryh wrote:
I still have all my film gear-Hasselblad 501 CM, Leica, Nikon, and contax 35mm. I still think Film is very valid- it is very expensive though !
I still, on occasion, shoot film. The expense is in the processing costs for those of us who don't have/want a dark room
rmalarz wrote:
Jery, not really.
Film expense:
1 roll of 100ft Ilford HP5 - $80.00
1 liter of developer Ilford DD-X - $20.00
1 gallon of Kodak fixer - $13.00
100 feet of film yields 18 rolls of 36 exposures Cost per exposure $0.12
1 liter of developer - 50 rolls or 900 exposures Cost per exposure $0.02
1 gallon of fixer - 50 rolls or 900 exposures Cost per exposure $0.01
Thus, each exposure costs $0.15
A Nikon D850 is priced at 3000. Thus for the cost of a Nikon D850 one could shoot 20000 photographs.
For 120 film that's 4,751 exposures using 2-1/4x2-3/4 cameras and 5,660 exposures for 2-1/4x2-1/4 format
Using 4x5 film will provide me 1,477 exposures.
So, all in all, it's not as expensive as one might profess.
--Bob
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That ignores the cost of the film camera.
Exactly!!! I was focusing on recurring costs based on the vast majority of comments made regarding the use of film.
--Bob
JohnSwanda wrote:
That ignores the cost of the film camera.
rmalarz wrote:
Exactly!!! I was focusing on recurring costs based on the vast majority of comments made regarding the use of film.
--Bob
But you are comparing the recurring costs of film with the cost of a digital camera when you have to buy a camera for both.
No I'm not. I'm only showing the recurring cost of film.
--Bob
JohnSwanda wrote:
But you are comparing the recurring costs of film with the cost of a digital camera when you have to buy a camera for both.
As a former AV man in an educational TV studio (Washington County, Maryland) back in the day when you had to know where to situate the Mic where to angle it and which pot controlled volume, I can relate to the pungent darkroom smells.
After all that, prefer digital controls over over "awsh*" mistakes that can't be redone.
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