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Jan 12, 2021 06:58:21   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I signed up for the Covid shot, so now I wait for a phone call. I can also call a local place and see when they can take me.

My son is in an odd position. He works for Lowe's, an essential business - "hardware, appliance, and building material stores" - but the people who work at Lowe's are not essential. He would have to work in a grocery store dealing directly with customers. He's taking another three weeks off from work. At least one person who works there has had Covid, and the local numbers are still going up.

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Jan 12, 2021 07:19:20   #
Triple G
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I signed up for the Covid shot, so now I wait for a phone call. I can also call a local place and see when they can take me.

My son is in an odd position. He works for Lowe's, an essential business - "hardware, appliance, and building material stores" - but the people who work at Lowe's are not essential. He would have to work in a grocery store dealing directly with customers. He's taking another three weeks off from work. At least one person who works there has had Covid, and the local numbers are still going up.
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That’s a ridiculous distinction. All front line employees in essential stores should be in the same grouping. It’s one example where a nation-wide guideline would be helpful.

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Jan 12, 2021 07:19:28   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Here, in Pasco County [Tampa area] Florida, if you live on the west coast you are Republican Affluent 65 and so all the shots were directed there. On the west of the county where Blacks and Hispanics live it is 40 miles to the shot center.

I also note that the "1C classification for priority is 65-75 and hey what about me, very soon 85... too old to save?

As one evolved Racoon said to the other, some archaeologist think there was a civilization of Whomuns that died out because of some virus that kept mutating. It was they think the Katskillian strain that finally did them in.

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Jan 12, 2021 07:25:12   #
Triple G
 
dpullum wrote:
Here, in Pasco County [Tampa area] Florida, if you live on the west coast you are Republican Affluent 65 and so all the shots were directed there. On the west of the county where Blacks and Hispanics live it is 40 miles to the shot center.

I also note that the "1C classification for priority is 65-75 and hey what about me, very soon 85... too old to save?

As one evolved Racoon said to the other, some archaeologist think there was a civilization of Whomuns that died out because of some virus that kept mutating. It was they think the Katskillian strain that finally did them in.
Here, in Pasco County Tampa area Florida, if you... (show quote)


I hope you get the opportunity soon. The shots for age 75+ were started here last week, which means all medical personnel, nursing homes, and essential workers have gotten shots one and two. They’re waiting on appointments for the second doses. I haven’t heard when the next grouping (65-75) will start, but it’s projected the first part of February.

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Jan 12, 2021 09:44:10   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
If they put the vaccine in beer, the whole country would be immune in two weeks!

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Jan 12, 2021 12:27:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
dpullum wrote:
I also note that the "1C classification for priority is 65-75 and hey what about me, very soon 85... too old to save?


You should have gotten the shot ten years ago, when you were eligible.

Hospitals in Los Angeles were running out of oxygen (same as in London), and people who were deemed too far gone to save weren't admitted. I wonder how many mask-deniers are taking up beds that could be used by people who were careful.

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Jan 12, 2021 13:30:51   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
jerryc41 wrote:
You should have gotten the shot ten years ago, when you were eligible.

Hospitals in Los Angeles were running out of oxygen (same as in London), and people who were deemed too far gone to save weren't admitted. I wonder how many mask-deniers are taking up beds that could be used by people who were careful.


People who refuse to wear a mask are not just foolish they are ignorant. There have been multiple strains of this virus since it was isolated in March. Each strain has different infectious properties. It varies by whom will get infected, the severity of the symptoms and the length of incubation before symptoms appear. It will be a crap shoot when someone is infected. Even if exposed to the mildest strain or the most severest strain, why don’t people wear masks. Either they don’t believe this virus can do harm or they believe they are immune, the result is not going to end well.
It took a great deal of time and effort to create the vaccine. It has been tested extensively and unfortunately it’s being distributed in stages. This I really don’t agree with but it is mandated by the CDC (Crazy Doctors in Charge). People need to follow guidelines until they are eligible. Namely, wearing masks, distancing if possible and hand sanitization. If I had my way the elderly and the infirm would top the list of people to get the vaccine. I do find it hard to believe that while major hardware stores like Lowe’s and the Home Depot are considered essential, the employees are not. Grocery store employees are considered essential.
I have not known of someone actually dying from the vaccine. The major side effects are swelling at the injection site, pain and stiffness at the injection site, general fatigue and headache. If one has not suffered from anYthing more severe, that is a good inoculation. The likelihood of someone suffering from an anaphylactic response is not likely. The worst that can happen after the second inoculation is severe fatigue lasting a day or two. It may be wise to contact your doctor as to what anti-inflammatory medication would be optimum.
The vaccine is not made from live or attenuated virus cells. The vaccine causes cells to create a foreign spike protein which fool the bodies immune system to ramping up antibodies. Taking care of oneself before and afterwards is paramount. We will beat this virus because we are a resilient group of people.

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Jan 12, 2021 16:17:29   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I signed up for the Covid shot, so now I wait for a phone call. I can also call a local place and see when they can take me.

My son is in an odd position. He works for Lowe's, an essential business - "hardware, appliance, and building material stores" - but the people who work at Lowe's are not essential. He would have to work in a grocery store dealing directly with customers. He's taking another three weeks off from work. At least one person who works there has had Covid, and the local numbers are still going up.
I signed up for the Covid shot, so now I wait for ... (show quote)


The Federal Gvt in coop with the drug companies distributes the vaccines to the states. The states then distribute to people. This morning, on a very left wing newspaper's site I saw that only 35% of the vaccine sent to the states has been used. I wonder what they are waiting for?

I read a news article that one place here in CA they had the freezer compressor die overnight, and the computer warning system didn't activate. When the hospital employees arrived at work in the morning they found that 800 inoculations worth of vaccine only had about 3 hours before expiration and becoming waste. So they did an all hands on deck and gave out 800 injections in about 2 hours. No time to go get most of the 1st tier people so they gave them to first responders, ambulance crews, cops, welfare workers who have to make home visits, all the employees and patients in the hospital and one doctor took enough doses for all the employees and patients in a large long term care center with a lot of older people drove there and with staff help gave everyone in the place shots. They did all this in 2-3 hours to make sure that even if they didn't follow the plan for who goes first none of the doses got wasted.

Yet of the vaccine sent to the states only 35% has been used. In spite of everyone screaming about "Where is the vaccine?"

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Jan 12, 2021 16:46:18   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
It’s amazing how we healthcare workers deal with this adversity. It is very rewarding to know that all doses intended were administered. We can all learn from this. No one should be denied a dose of this vaccine because of a technical glitch. I hope the facility gets a new freezer and has someone checking on it periodically through the night and on weekends.

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Jan 12, 2021 16:57:36   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Scruples wrote:
It’s amazing how we healthcare workers deal with this adversity. It is very rewarding to know that all doses intended were administered. We can all learn from this. No one should be denied a dose of this vaccine because of a technical glitch. I hope the facility gets a new freezer and has someone checking on it periodically through the night and on weekends.


California is using 7 hospitals around the state as central distribution centers, this was one of them. Now if I was in charge they would have already given them to the first tier people before this happened. Like the day after the stuff arrived. And now they would have a live human watching the storage freezers - even if a local college student hired to do their homework while watching or maybe a retired doctor, nurse etc who could go on a sleep all day, stay up all night schedule. But this is California so who knows what they are doing?

In re the freezer, for vital drug storage I would specify only freezers and coolers with redundant backup compressors etc.
We had to have a repairman for our AC during a 100+ heatwave a few months ago. The guy told us if we had bought our unit just a couple of months earlier it would have had a backup controler to take over and an alarm to tell us the primary failed. As is the one we got was part of the first production run with only one controller to save money.

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Jan 12, 2021 17:04:23   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
It is sad that those of us on the outside looking in have no say. At the New York City Department of Health, you must in the appropriate tier group and make an appointment. If you miss it you are SOOL and don’t expect a replacement appointment any time soon. Yesterday they were vaccinating 600 people from the first tier. At Mount Sinai Medical Center, they vaccinate 1500 employees per day. As I know you will follow the guideline, I urge everyone to follow the guidelines lest it be too late.

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Jan 12, 2021 19:06:52   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I’m 75, and I’m scheduled for my first dose on the 20th. My wife, who is 71, isn’t eligible yet, and that bothers me a lot (I want her to get it ASAP and would gladly give her my spot). Hopefully, the new guidelines today will allow her to get it soon. Here in NC, the logistics are pretty haphazard. The health dept is not showing any availability. One hospital chain had available appointments, and they were gone within hours, yet another county had a first come, first served drive thru today, and as expected the lines were around the block(s). One of my sons, who is a first responder, and hasn’t had it yet even though there have been half a dozen cases and 60 in quarantine in his department, wasn’t allowed because management were worried they might call in sick from a reaction to a shot (really?). My other son is a HS teacher with a new baby at home and is expected to go back to face to face teaching next week even though cases are exploding here and all the surrounding counties have given up and gone back to online learning. The medical community has done and is doing their job, now our government at all levels needs to do theirs and organize the distribution of this vaccine to slow/stop this pandemic, and so far they have failed.

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Jan 12, 2021 19:10:52   #
Triple G
 
TriX wrote:
I’m 75, and I’m scheduled for my first dose on the 20th. My wife, who is 71, isn’t eligible yet, and that bothers me a lot (I want her to get it ASAP and would gladly give her my spot). Hopefully, the new guidelines today will allow her to get it soon. Here in NC, the logistics are pretty haphazard. The health dept is not showing any availability. One hospital chain had available appointments, and they were gone within hours, yet another county had a first come, first served drive thru today, and as expected the lines were around the block(s). One of my sons, who is a first responder, and hasn’t had it yet even though there have been half a dozen cases and 60 in quarantine in his department, wasn’t allowed because management were worried they might call in sick from a reaction to a shot (really?). My other son is a HS teacher with a new baby at home and is expected to go back to face to face teaching next week even though cases are exploding here and all the surrounding counties have given up and gone back to online learning. The medical community has done and is doing their job, now our government at all levels needs to do theirs.
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Agree!

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Jan 12, 2021 19:18:50   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
TriX wrote:
I’m 75, and I’m scheduled for my first dose on the 20th. My wife, who is 71, isn’t eligible yet, and that bothers me a lot (I want her to get it ASAP and would gladly give her my spot). Hopefully, the new guidelines today will allow her to get it soon. Here in NC, the logistics are pretty haphazard. The health dept is not showing any availability. One hospital chain had available appointments, and they were gone within hours, yet another county had a first come, first served drive thru today, and as expected the lines were around the block(s). One of my sons, who is a first responder, and hasn’t had it yet even though there have been half a dozen cases and 60 in quarantine in his department, wasn’t allowed because management were worried they might call in sick from a reaction to a shot (really?). My other son is a HS teacher with a new baby at home and is expected to go back to face to face teaching next week even though cases are exploding here and all the surrounding counties have given up and gone back to online learning. The medical community has done and is doing their job, now our government at all levels needs to do theirs.
I’m 75, and I’m scheduled for my first dose on the... (show quote)


This pandemic has challenged us all at different levels and in different ways.

I am in complete agreement with the tier system. I wish that a family physician could apply for an exemption for a patient of theirs. There is no such circumstance provided for. As for an employer concerned about an entire work force calling in sick that is ludicrous. Even the second dose of the vaccine can be administered with a four day plus or minus grace period. A physical reaction is highly unlikely but is a valid concern. I guess many people are conservative and will play it close to the vest.
Until a person is eligible to receive the vaccine, wear masks, distancing if possible and sanitization remain a good practice until everyone is vaccinated.
I like you are not truly happy with the mandates created by our leaders, but this is the best we got at this time.

By the way, let us not refer to government or politics in this matter. I know that it is easy to do, but this topic will be sent to the Attic and no one can learn or benefit during this stressful time for us all.

Please Be Well and Stay Safe.

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Jan 12, 2021 21:28:56   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Scruples wrote:
This pandemic has challenged us all at different levels and in different ways.

I am in complete agreement with the tier system. I wish that a family physician could apply for an exemption for a patient of theirs. There is no such circumstance provided for. As for an employer concerned about an entire work force calling in sick that is ludicrous. Even the second dose of the vaccine can be administered with a four day plus or minus grace period. A physical reaction is highly unlikely but is a valid concern. I guess many people are conservative and will play it close to the vest.
Until a person is eligible to receive the vaccine, wear masks, distancing if possible and sanitization remain a good practice until everyone is vaccinated.
I like you are not truly happy with the mandates created by our leaders, but this is the best we got at this time.

By the way, let us not refer to government or politics in this matter. I know that it is easy to do, but this topic will be sent to the Attic and no one can learn or benefit during this stressful time for us all.

Please Be Well and Stay Safe.
This pandemic has challenged us all at different l... (show quote)


I really take your point, and I’m as sensitive as anyone to keeping politics out of Chit Chat, but I think we can discuss the distribution efficiency/plans of the vaccine and mention government without stepping over the line as long as we don’t name/blame parties or indulge in politics. Our various governmental agencies are in charge of the distribution. At this point, it is up to them to coordinate the effort, and in fairness, it seems to be a bottleneck at present (in our state we have administered about 1/4 of the vaccine we’ve received after 4 weeks) - would you agree?

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