* * Important Info Ref 'IBIS' in the Canon Mirrorless 'R' Type Cameras
Jan 11, 2021 08:49:28 #
Jan 11, 2021 09:05:43 #
Pumble wrote:
Seems to me to be a miss in the software. I can foresee no reason to keep the system "live" while the camera is turned off. Not sure if sensor is just freely moving about or otherwise moving under power? Does the menu fix push a lock pin in or something? If moving under power, it must be that the system is drawing power from the battery ever so slightly while it's sitting in the dry box or closet. I have to believe that Canon could change this in a firmware update.
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You make an excellent point Pumble,
BUT, I will tell you that Canon, USA., has never been 'open to suggestions' in the public arena...
Canon USA makes this very clear in their 'formal written' user's agreement for any/and all products they sell and I can actually understand why... I am sure, that over time, Canon has come to the conclusion that if they 'accept' advice from the general public, then Canon will be 'on the hook' to pay that personal 'Royalty Rights' for their 'Ideas and/or invention advice...' AND, so the business goes.
I have actually done the research online and that is what I have learned.
Cheers
GeoVz
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Jan 11, 2021 12:20:42 #
Thanks Goldstar, I own an R6 and will use that procedure. Of course it would be great if they could update the software to simply turn off and on with the power button. Wonder why that can't be done?
Jan 11, 2021 13:47:53 #
Jan 11, 2021 14:26:55 #
Jan 11, 2021 14:46:18 #
POVDOV wrote:
Thanks Goldstar, I own an R6 and will use that procedure. Of course it would be great if they could update the software to simply turn off and on with the power button. Wonder why that can't be done?
Jan 11, 2021 14:46:29 #
Jan 11, 2021 16:34:06 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
Good info... Thanks for passing it along.
Wouldn't it be great if Canon revised the firmware so that IBIS automatically locked when the camera is turned off? That would just make sense and seems like it's something that should happen by default....
And, I ain't a programmer, but seems like this might be relatively easy to fix with an update to the firmware.
I was really pleased to see Canon had designed the R5 and R6 to close their shutters when the lens is removed. That's an example that Canon does listen to customer comments and give them consideration, contrary to the assertion in your followup post.
All mirrorless should close the shutter like that, to protect the sensor from dust and/or accidental damage (since the sensor is so much closer to the bayonet mount of the camera, than it is in a DSLR). I understand some Sony users have been asking for this feature for years. I don't know whether or not it's been implemented on recent models.
I've seen other ideas implemented and concerns acted upon by Canon, following user feedback. Another example is the locking button on the mode dial on many of the cameras. Earlier models didn't have that and it was all too easy to accidentally change the exposure mode while carrying the camera. There was also a problem with the AF system in the 1D Mark III when it was first introduced... Intermittent and hard to replicate, it turned out to be a component prone to overheating in certain situations. There was a lot of dialog back and forth between Canon and their customers about that, eventually leading to a recall to correct the problem and revision to production models. Same with an issue with the BG-E2 battery grip that was introduced with the 20D. Canon stepped up to correct it quickly. They also quickly dealt with some problems with early 5D model mirrors coming loose and some later ones that had a light leak. More recently Canon responded quite quickly with improvements to partially address overheating issues with the R5 and R6 when shooting high resolution video.
So I don't know where your research turned up info that Canon doesn't listen, out of some concern that they'll be sued for some sort of licensing/royalty obligations arising from listening to customer feedback. From what I've seen, I think the opposite is true.
Wouldn't it be great if Canon revised the firmware so that IBIS automatically locked when the camera is turned off? That would just make sense and seems like it's something that should happen by default....
And, I ain't a programmer, but seems like this might be relatively easy to fix with an update to the firmware.
I was really pleased to see Canon had designed the R5 and R6 to close their shutters when the lens is removed. That's an example that Canon does listen to customer comments and give them consideration, contrary to the assertion in your followup post.
All mirrorless should close the shutter like that, to protect the sensor from dust and/or accidental damage (since the sensor is so much closer to the bayonet mount of the camera, than it is in a DSLR). I understand some Sony users have been asking for this feature for years. I don't know whether or not it's been implemented on recent models.
I've seen other ideas implemented and concerns acted upon by Canon, following user feedback. Another example is the locking button on the mode dial on many of the cameras. Earlier models didn't have that and it was all too easy to accidentally change the exposure mode while carrying the camera. There was also a problem with the AF system in the 1D Mark III when it was first introduced... Intermittent and hard to replicate, it turned out to be a component prone to overheating in certain situations. There was a lot of dialog back and forth between Canon and their customers about that, eventually leading to a recall to correct the problem and revision to production models. Same with an issue with the BG-E2 battery grip that was introduced with the 20D. Canon stepped up to correct it quickly. They also quickly dealt with some problems with early 5D model mirrors coming loose and some later ones that had a light leak. More recently Canon responded quite quickly with improvements to partially address overheating issues with the R5 and R6 when shooting high resolution video.
So I don't know where your research turned up info that Canon doesn't listen, out of some concern that they'll be sued for some sort of licensing/royalty obligations arising from listening to customer feedback. From what I've seen, I think the opposite is true.
Jan 11, 2021 16:45:16 #
POVDOV wrote:
Thanks Goldstar, I own an R6 and will use that procedure. Of course it would be great if they could update the software to simply turn off and on with the power button. Wonder why that can't be done?
Jan 11, 2021 23:41:34 #
Jan 15, 2021 11:08:36 #
Jan 15, 2021 11:18:39 #
skeebum9 wrote:
what about removing the battery instead?? would that do the same thing?
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Skee...
I see your question and I will give you only my 'interpretation' ... others may believe otherwise
Removing a battery from a camera accomplishes two things mainly.
1) Turns off any power and leaves the 'firmware' in the 'last settings state'
2) Help prevent any corrosion for 'long term' storage
Having said the above, I believe that the instructions by the 'direct canon email' would imply that by using actions within the menu system, the operator is actually preforming a 'function' which would 'pin or lockdown' the IBIS from any 'movement' and thereby add an additional 'level of protection'
That is my opinion... and, I am sure you will have others with a different one.
Cheers
GeoVz
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