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Jan 10, 2021 07:43:43   #
goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
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TO: All Hoggers who own or considering the Canon Mirrorless Cameras

Yesterday, while chatting with others on one of my Facebook Pages, It occurred to me I should investigate important considerations with the 'IBIS' or In Body Image Stabilization component of these cameras... For me, that would be important for I just bought the Canon EOS R5 last November...

The question I had was: IS the IBIS Component capable of being 'Locked-down' to prevent damage during transportation or rough handling? .

In the past, I have learned the hard way that, the "IS" component of any of my given Canon EL - "lS" lens could be damaged through accidental drops or poor handling, and such events can be very costly in repairs by Canon CPS... Since about 2010, I have had two such events, due to no fault of my own... and have learned to be very cautious when and where possible...

Example: 3 years ago, my wife and I traveled by air in Australia and, sadly learned that 'carry-on' was limited to only 7 Kilos or 15 LB (us)... YIKES. I could NOT put my 'carry-on' camera bag in the overhead but, had to 'check-it' and let the 'Luggage Monkeys' have it... NO, I was NOT happy...

So, in light of the above, I 'fired off' an email with my questions to Canon Technical Support yesterday (yes - on Sat) ... and, less than 3 hours later, I got my answer back... There was one very important and surprising element in their answer to me... That information was that: Even when my Canon EOS R5 is actually turned 'OFF', the 'IBIS' is still mobile / and /or movable, unless it is 'actually turned off' in the menu system...

Below is the actual text, provided directly from the email which I got back from Canon Support late last night:

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Dear George Veazey,

Thank you for contacting Canon. My name is Gwen and I am happy to assist you with the IBIS on the EOS R5.

There isn't an article about this subject that I could send you a link to. There is a way to lock down the IBIS on the camera though. As long as the IBIS is enabled on the camera the sensor will continue to move, even if the camera is turned off. If you turn off the IBIS it will lock the sensor in place and prevent it from moving when the camera is on or off.

To turn it off it is best to take the lens off the camera first. The IBIS option in the menu will only appear when there is no IS capable lens attached to the camera, so the easiest way to get it to show up is just to not have a lens on the camera. Once the lens is off the camera put it into either Fv, P, Tv, Av, or M and press the Menu button. Go to the seventh tab under the red camera icon and select IS (Image Stabilizer) Mode. On the next screen disable it.

If you want to reference the manual for information on setting the IBIS that is on pages 251 and 252. If you need a copy of the manual it is available HERE. Once you are on the web page click on the gray Manuals button and the one to reference is named EOS R5 Advanced User Guide (PDF).

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So, there you have it.... Hope this info can be of some help to others who own or are considering an "R" Camera

Cheers
GeoVz
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PS: Yes, I did searches on the net for this answer with no luck, and Yes, I knew this info was probably somewhere in the manual... but, that document is over 500 pages and I figured I would just go directly to the 'Right Source' for the answer... Besides I wanted to know if there were any other URL links I would read... and they said... "NO" there were none...

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Jan 10, 2021 08:19:39   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Thanks for heads-up re IBIS locking.
goldstar46 wrote:
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TO: All Hoggers who own or considering the Canon Mirrorless Cameras

Yesterday, while chatting with others on one of my Facebook Pages, It occurred to me I should investigate important considerations with the 'IBIS' or In Body Image Stabilization component of these cameras... For me, that would be important for I just bought the Canon EOS R5 last November...

The question I had was: IS the IBIS Component capable of being 'Locked-down' to prevent damage during transportation or rough handling? .

In the past, I have learned the hard way that, the "IS" component of any of my given Canon EL - "lS" lens could be damaged through accidental drops or poor handling, and such events can be very costly in repairs by Canon CPS... Since about 2010, I have had two such events, due to no fault of my own... and have learned to be very cautious when and where possible...

Example: 3 years ago, my wife and I traveled by air in Australia and, sadly learned that 'carry-on' was limited to only 7 Kilos or 15 LB (us)... YIKES. I could NOT put my 'carry-on' camera bag in the overhead but, had to 'check-it' and let the 'Luggage Monkeys' have it... NO, I was NOT happy...

So, in light of the above, I 'fired off' an email with my questions to Canon Technical Support yesterday (yes - on Sat) ... and, less than 3 hours later, I got my answer back... There was one very important and surprising element in their answer to me... That information was that: Even when my Canon EOS R5 is actually turned 'OFF', the 'IBIS' is still mobile / and /or movable, unless it is 'actually turned off' in the menu system...

Below is the actual text, provided directly from the email which I got back from Canon Support late last night:

------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear George Veazey,

Thank you for contacting Canon. My name is Gwen and I am happy to assist you with the IBIS on the EOS R5.

There isn't an article about this subject that I could send you a link to. There is a way to lock down the IBIS on the camera though. As long as the IBIS is enabled on the camera the sensor will continue to move, even if the camera is turned off. If you turn off the IBIS it will lock the sensor in place and prevent it from moving when the camera is on or off.

To turn it off it is best to take the lens off the camera first. The IBIS option in the menu will only appear when there is no IS capable lens attached to the camera, so the easiest way to get it to show up is just to not have a lens on the camera. Once the lens is off the camera put it into either Fv, P, Tv, Av, or M and press the Menu button. Go to the seventh tab under the red camera icon and select IS (Image Stabilizer) Mode. On the next screen disable it.

If you want to reference the manual for information on setting the IBIS that is on pages 251 and 252. If you need a copy of the manual it is available HERE. Once you are on the web page click on the gray Manuals button and the one to reference is named EOS R5 Advanced User Guide (PDF).

====================================================

So, there you have it.... Hope this info can be of some help to others who own or are considering an "R" Camera

Cheers
GeoVz
####

PS: Yes, I did searches on the net for this answer with no luck, and Yes, I knew this info was probably somewhere in the manual... but, that document is over 500 pages and I figured I would just go directly to the 'Right Source' for the answer... Besides I wanted to know if there were any other URL links I would read... and they said... "NO" there were none...
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Jan 10, 2021 08:20:23   #
gekko11 Loc: Las Cruces NM
 
that is very good information , thank you for sharing

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Jan 10, 2021 08:29:23   #
goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
anotherview wrote:
Thanks for heads-up re IBIS locking.



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Jan 10, 2021 08:29:43   #
goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl
 

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Jan 10, 2021 08:37:26   #
BurghByrd Loc: Pittsburgh
 
Good information, thanks. It would be interresting to find out how other brands handle this.

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Jan 10, 2021 08:38:49   #
goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
BurghByrd wrote:
Good information, thanks. It would be interresting to find out how other brands handle this.

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Good Thought Mr. Byrd...

..... Lucky for me, I own only one brand

Cheers
GeoVz
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Jan 10, 2021 08:44:20   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
First I commend you, Goldstar46, for doing the definition in accordance with technical writing, when using an abbreviation or acronym, define it the first time. " 'IBIS' or In Body Image Stabilization"

Such a definition of abbreviations and acronyms is courteous and necessary for effective communication, unfortunatly rare in UHH. Certainly, some will argue.. "hey do you expect me to do this for f and ISO... " of course not but many other terms are not common as with IBIS.

"Always write out the first in-text reference to an acronym, followed by the acronym itself written in capital letters and enclosed by parentheses. Subsequent references to the acronym can be made just by the capital letters alone. For example, Geographic Information Systems (GIS) is a rapidly expanding field. GIS technology..."
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/technicalwriting/chapter/abbreviations-and-acronyms/

Second, Your informative discussion gives me thought regarding my recent temptation to buy a used mirrorless camera. The dream could very well be a nightmare. So thank you for the discussion.

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Jan 10, 2021 08:49:08   #
goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
dpullum wrote:
First I commend you, Goldstar46, for doing the definition in accordance with technical writing, when using an abbreviation or acronym, define it the first time. " 'IBIS' or In Body Image Stabilization"

Such a definition of abbreviations and acronyms is courteous and necessary for effective communication, unfortunatly rare in UHH. Certainly, some will argue.. "hey do you expect me to do this for f and ISO... " of course not but many other terms are not common as with IBIS.

"Always write out the first in-text reference to an acronym, followed by the acronym itself written in capital letters and enclosed by parentheses. Subsequent references to the acronym can be made just by the capital letters alone. For example, Geographic Information Systems (GIS) is a rapidly expanding field. GIS technology..."
https://courses.lumenlearning.com/technicalwriting/chapter/abbreviations-and-acronyms/

Second, it gives me thought regarding my recent temptation to buy a used mirrorless camera. The dream could very well be a nightmare. So thank you for the discussion.
First I commend you, Goldstar46, for doing the def... (show quote)


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First, Thank You for your kind words dpullum...

To further your concerns... Yes, I have 'always' considered that as a serious concern especially when buying any used lens... For me, the last repair of my EF - 100-400mm cost me over $ 600 when sent into Canon CPS.. So I have 'first hand' experience with such events

This is something everyone should consider when buying 'used' and a lot of the time, individuals do not do this...

Cheers
GeoVz
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Jan 11, 2021 06:22:28   #
AFPhoto Loc: Jamestown, RI, USA
 
Thank you

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Jan 11, 2021 08:19:00   #
whitehall Loc: Canada
 
Excellent information. Thank you. One wonders however how sensitive the IBIS is. For example, if one travels by vehicle, and the camera is in its case in the trunk of the vehicle, could it be damaged If so one might wish to follow the advice from Canon.

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Jan 11, 2021 08:21:34   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Yes, follow the advice from Canon.
whitehall wrote:
Excellent information. Thank you. One wonders however how sensitive the IBIS is. For example, if one travels by vehicle, and the camera is in its case in the trunk of the vehicle, could it be damaged If so one might wish to follow the advice from Canon.

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Jan 11, 2021 08:33:52   #
gsmith051 Loc: Fairfield Glade, TN
 
Thanks George for the information.

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Jan 11, 2021 08:40:04   #
Pumble
 
goldstar46 wrote:
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TO: All Hoggers who own or considering the Canon Mirrorless Cameras

So, there you have it.... Hope this info can be of some help to others who own or are considering an "R" Camera

Cheers
GeoVz
####


Seems to me to be a miss in the software. I can foresee no reason to keep the system "live" while the camera is turned off. Not sure if sensor is just freely moving about or otherwise moving under power? Does the menu fix push a lock pin in or something? If moving under power, it must be that the system is drawing power from the battery ever so slightly while it's sitting in the dry box or closet. I have to believe that Canon could change this in a firmware update.

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Jan 11, 2021 08:45:03   #
goldstar46 Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
whitehall wrote:
Excellent information. Thank you. One wonders however how sensitive the IBIS is. For example, if one travels by vehicle, and the camera is in its case in the trunk of the vehicle, could it be damaged If so one might wish to follow the advice from Canon.

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Whitehall...

That is an excellent question and I thought of it as I sent my request to Canon support.

I ask them for additional links on the subject or any other information. As you'll notice in the response they indicated this was the only reference they could provide me.

Cheers
GeoVz
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