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Jan 9, 2021 11:44:49   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
I’m a proud American (sometimes more proud than other times) but I believe in right and wrong. My country right or wrong doesn’t fit with my moral beliefs. When one’s country is wrong, one should attempt to guide it back on trac not defend it. Just my belief, but I believe it very strongly.


And taking rights from honest citizens is the way to do that? Is that what you are recommending? What happens then when the Conservatives take are v**ed into office again and institute deprogramming of your side. Will that be acceptable as well?

What is wrong with America princess? What is it you want to fix that ain't broken except by your side?

Dennis

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Jan 9, 2021 11:46:21   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I am saddened by posts exactly like this post you submitted that posts such lies and made up BS. Did you really get close enough to any of the protestors to be able to determine the clothing worn by the Trump supporters was made in China? Actually, isn't it your side who is all FOR buying articles of anything Made in China? Are you well enough informed to actually be able to tell it is ONLY Trump supporters who are wearing clothing that looks like the American f**g? Here in Liberal Land Southern California I see people of all shapes, sizes and colors wearing American f**g looking clothing of all types, shirts, bandannas, shorts, bathing suits, hats, you name it. But while this is indeed Liberal Land, USA, I would be hard pressed to tell if a person v**ed Republican or Democrat just from their clothing. Most people, those with common sense anyway, would actually talk to someone to determine which side of the political aisle they belong.

So your father fought for freedom in WW2. Congratulations to your family and especially to him. We all owe him and those like him as best a Thank You as we can muster. But let's not forget there were also a HUGE number of Conservatives who fought in both World Wars, Korea, Vietnam and of course the war in the Middle East. Which side was your father on, Conservative or Liberal? Not that it matters. Everyone who fought deserves our honor and respect. Just so you know, my family is pretty much all Conservative thinking. My twin brother and I fought with the USMC in Vietnam. His son, my nephew was in the USMC. My brother's grandson will be graduating USMC boot camp in about a week. Other family members were in the Navy, my father who also fought in WW2 and a brother, in the Army. Uncles in the AAF and Army. Your dad, bless him, is not the only person who fought for freedom.

As for respecting the American F**g, Bob Malarz points out correctly that it is the SCOTUS who made it a freedom of speech to do what we wish with the American f**g. You might recall this came about because your side, the Democratic Liberal side, was burning the American f**g as a protest. Apparently that was acceptable to you, to burn the American f**g that your father fought so hard to protect. Could it be possible you are fighting the wrong people? When Left Wing protestors took over Seattle and Portland did you stand up for their right to protest even though they took over city blocks and protested violently for weeks. I didn't hear any protests from the Left. Did you. When President Trump offered to send in troops to clean up the area the city mayors told him to stay out of it.

But NOW you on the Left find protesting to be bad when it was good for your side. Hmmmmm. A bit late in your protest aren't you?

Dennis
I am saddened by posts exactly like this post you ... (show quote)


You ramble so much in your post they become meaningless

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Jan 9, 2021 11:46:36   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Trump people need to be deprogrammed, you say. princess you are proving you are caught up in the Left Wing BS. It seems those of you on the Left want the names of Trump supporters taken down so we can be sent to camps to be deprogrammed. You just said that, did you not? Are you noticing Democrats have for some time now wanted and spoken out against the First, Second and Fourth Amendments. Censorship is already taking place on social media. Michelle Obama has already spoken out for some form of censorship. What about Freedom of Speech? Are you a supporter of the U.S. Constitution princess or are you in the Left Wing camp that all of America must be t***sformed to a country that has fewer freedoms than we had before?

Dennis
Trump people need to be deprogrammed, you say. pr... (show quote)


No amount of proof could sway you, plus you are disrespectful. I have no time for you.

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Jan 9, 2021 11:46:40   #
Triple G
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I was not cheering for anything that happened at the Capitol building that day. The Trump f**g nor the Confederate f**g have ever bothered me just as Obama emblazoned items more than likely have never bothered you. At least you have never spoken out against such things that I have seen. Now that you ask I do support the Confederate f**g as a historical treasure and have never looked upon it as a sign of r****m.

But apparently you jump on me but not on the poster who apparently was there to notice the clothing labels saying, Made in China. No comments on his apparent BS lies? No comment that f**g inspired clothing has been around since at least the 1960's that I recall? Another Left Wing supporter says something and you fall in line with that BS yet jump on me for pointing out the t***h. Congratulations!!! Here's your Left Wing Badge.

Dennis
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And, you deflect rather than answer. Was the confederate f**g used as a historical symbol or as a signal of anarchy and if so, why aren’t you condemning it? There is nothing of equal equivalency for you to deflect to. Nothing reaches the scale of terrorism and s******n as what you support in the actions against the capitol. Own it or will you be like those who have been caught and now crying for forgiveness?



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Jan 9, 2021 11:48:06   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And taking rights from honest citizens is the way to do that? Is that what you are recommending? What happens then when the Conservatives take are v**ed into office again and institute deprogramming of your side. Will that be acceptable as well?

What is wrong with America princess? What is it you want to fix that ain't broken except by your side?

Dennis


See my earlier post!

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Jan 9, 2021 11:49:23   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
DennyT wrote:
You ramble so much in your post they become meaningless


He does, but that isn’t what makes them meaningless.

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Jan 9, 2021 11:58:03   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
You ramble so much in your post they become meaningless


First off please show me what I am rambling about. Give me some examples.

Next and most important why is it that you seem to think I don't have a right to post what I want just as you and others do every day.

Most important to me is, how on earth can you continue to answer my posts every day when I ramble on so much. Are you aware you are not forced in any way to read my posts? When you see my name and avatar you can just pass on by and not say anything. Believe me I won't even know and more important I won't give a damn if you do or do not post to me.

Now calm yourself down and start telling yourself, quietly of course without flying into a rage, It is acceptable to the entire world if I do not answer any of Dennis' posts here on the UHH forum. Take a deep breath and start saying those exact words. It's OK.

Dennis

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Jan 9, 2021 11:59:50   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
No amount of proof could sway you, plus you are disrespectful. I have no time for you.


princess in the real world of discussions we call that a DEFLECTION from a coward. You cannot come up with something to say so you put me down and move on. Congratulations on your deflection sk**ls. You truly are a Left Winger in body and spirit.

Dennis

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Jan 9, 2021 12:06:27   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Trump people need to be deprogrammed, you say. princess you are proving you are caught up in the Left Wing BS. It seems those of you on the Left want the names of Trump supporters taken down so we can be sent to camps to be deprogrammed. You just said that, did you not? Are you noticing Democrats have for some time now wanted and spoken out against the First, Second and Fourth Amendments. Censorship is already taking place on social media. Michelle Obama has already spoken out for some form of censorship. What about Freedom of Speech? Are you a supporter of the U.S. Constitution princess or are you in the Left Wing camp that all of America must be t***sformed to a country that has fewer freedoms than we had before?

Dennis
Trump people need to be deprogrammed, you say. pr... (show quote)


The first amendment does not give us the right to scream "fire" in a crowded building. That is basically what Trump did Wednesday.

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Jan 9, 2021 12:08:23   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
The news media stands in need of deprogramming to end its slanted reportage. Now, the news media spreads lies, bias, and propaganda.

As a prime example, the news media continues to state the lie that the police k**led G****e F***d.

Actually, Mr. Floyd died of a heart attack while in police custody. Read his autopsy. Stop lying about the death of a deceased man.

The news media may cleanse itself and become trustworthy when it returns to straight reportage. At a minimum, this approach requires reportage to rest on verifiable facts and information minus opinion.

The news media has the responsibility to inform the public in a democracy. Now, the news media falls way short of this high calling.

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Jan 9, 2021 12:16:24   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
See my earlier post!


I have seen your earlier post(s). How long will you and your princess like mannerisms be in hiding? I see almost all of your posts waffle boy and as I have told you many times, others have too, you don't post anything impressive, nothing at all for anyone to remember. You post snide little meaningless remarks that have little to no substantive value.

Is Joe Biden hiding with you? Hopefully he will be out before the inauguration. Otherwise Harris will take over immediately.

Dennis

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Jan 9, 2021 12:18:49   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
He does, but that isn’t what makes them meaningless.


Ahhh...there is the little princess in all of her finest representative posting, some sniveling little snide remark that, as per her usual, means absolutely nothing to anyone. She is just trying to get her licks in, trying to pretend she is relevant t this conversation. Better luck next time princess. You didn't quite make it this time.

Dennis

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Jan 9, 2021 12:24:04   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
anotherview wrote:
The news media stands in need of deprogramming to end its slanted reportage. Now, the news media spreads lies, bias, and propaganda.

As a prime example, the news media continues to state the lie that the police k**led G****e F***d.

Actually, Mr. Floyd died of a heart attack while in police custody. Read his autopsy. Stop lying about the death of a deceased man.

The news media may cleanse itself and become trustworthy when it returns to straight reportage. At a minimum, this approach requires reportage to rest on verifiable facts and information minus opinion.

The news media has the responsibility to inform the public in a democracy. Now, the news media falls way short of this high calling.
The news media stands in need of deprogramming to ... (show quote)


You complain about "f**e news" and MSM while far right news hosts and sites are trying to convince you that a****a was responsible for the tragic debacle that occurred Wednesday.

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Jan 9, 2021 12:28:56   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
gorgehiker wrote:
I've been around a long time and I am not blind. I have seen far more d********g uses of our f**g recently amongst the MAGA crowd. Yes, there were instances of inappropriate display of the f**g years ago. Yes, we have a first amendment right to do anything we want with our f**g. All I'm saying is, just because we can doesn't mean we should. You are entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that our f**g should be more than just a fashion statement or a political statement.


IF you are talking to me I can't help but agree with you on the wearing of f**g decorated clothing. I will say though that people I personally know who wear such clothing do it because they are proud to be Americans and do not wear the clothing to disrespect America or the f**g but because of their p***e in America.

Why would you think Trump supporters would wear the f**g inspired clothing as a sign AGAINST America. Do you honestly think Trump supporters are anti America while you on the Left truly support America and all America stands for?

Dennis

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Jan 9, 2021 12:34:19   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
gorgehiker wrote:
The first amendment does not give us the right to scream "fire" in a crowded building. That is basically what Trump did Wednesday.


Of course it does not give us that right. You are wrong about Trump basically saying that on Wednesday. I did not listen to his speech at all nor did I watch the r**ts taking place. Sorry but I have a life and do not spend it in front of a news station.

But I ASSUME you did listen to the speech. If so, tell me, what were the sentences Trump specifically spoke to get those r****rs to break into the building, wreak havoc and damage resulting in death to others. Did Trump specifically tell those people, "Go down to the Capitol building right now, break in, break things, try to have people end up dead and do lots of damage." Is this ALL Trump's fault or do you give some of the credit for damage to the people themselves? Isn't each of us responsible for our own actions?

Dennis

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