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Jan 2, 2021 15:03:15   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
This last year my camera gear has seemed a bit heavy and unsteady. My son & two daughters gave me a great Christmas gift, a SONY RX10 iv. Trying it out I wasn't so sure I was ready to trade my "heavies" for it, when I tried to get my favored result in the same way I always have it just wasn'tquite the same. Consulting other owners I was persuaded to let the SONY do its own thing. I'M SOLD! I'm enjoying this amazing gift to the max.
Here is a shot I took at the beach. This group were quite distant but when I got the image home I was able to crop in on the main action. It works for me!


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Jan 2, 2021 18:03:45   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
I still have my Sony RX100 first version. It still impresses me. Sony has done well at taking advantage of 1 inch sensors. My wife bought a RX 10 IV a couple months ago and is busy teaching me how much better her photos are than mine might be!

Your example might be one of those shots that you might not have taken with a 'heavy'. The pros in that shoot might not notice you shooting with a lightweight. Would they have objected to a 'heavy'?

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Jan 2, 2021 20:51:09   #
SonyA580 Loc: FL in the winter & MN in the summer
 
Is it just me or do others see a lot noise in the shadows, even in the original, but especially in the cropped image?

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Jan 2, 2021 21:26:30   #
Haydon
 
SonyA580 wrote:
Is it just me or do others see a lot noise in the shadows, even in the original, but especially in the cropped image?


Definitely a lot of noise in the shadows. It could have been pushed in post and originally underexposed.

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Jan 3, 2021 06:19:43   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Don, the 2nd son wrote:
This last year my camera gear has seemed a bit heavy and unsteady. My son & two daughters gave me a great Christmas gift, a SONY RX10 iv. Trying it out I wasn't so sure I was ready to trade my "heavies" for it, when I tried to get my favored result in the same way I always have it just wasn'tquite the same. Consulting other owners I was persuaded to let the SONY do its own thing. I'M SOLD! I'm enjoying this amazing gift to the max.
Here is a shot I took at the beach. This group were quite distant but when I got the image home I was able to crop in on the main action. It works for me!
This last year my camera gear has seemed a bit hea... (show quote)


It looks like the image is slightly underexposed. A shutter speed of 1/800 (or even a tad slower) might have been a better choice. However, your detail image points out the inherent weakness in this (and all other small sensor cameras) Even with 20 mp, extreme cropping does not provide great results, even at base ISO with good light. Distant fine details get "mushed" together. Here are two examples, one taken with a D800 and a 150-600 lens, and the other with the Sony RX10M4 - same light, same subjects similar cropping.

As long as you are aware of the camera's limitations you will no doubt enjoy it as much as I enjoy mine.

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Jan 3, 2021 09:22:59   #
genocolo Loc: Vail and Gasparilla Island
 
Sorry but for me the crop is not a good example of its capability.

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Jan 3, 2021 10:52:33   #
markwilliam1
 
genocolo wrote:
Sorry but for me the crop is not a good example of its capability.


Which crop? What’s wrong with it? Both look good to me.

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Jan 3, 2021 10:59:35   #
Fredrick Loc: Former NYC, now San Francisco Bay Area
 
SonyA580 wrote:
Is it just me or do others see a lot noise in the shadows, even in the original, but especially in the cropped image?

Unfortunately it was the first thing I noticed from the cropped shot, especially on the dark jacket. I don’t see how you could avoid this from cropping an image from a 1” sensor. I’m sure there are ways in PP that could help to mitigate this. This would not preclude me from purchasing one, though. I’ve heard very good things about these cameras.

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Jan 3, 2021 11:02:21   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
SonyA580 wrote:
Is it just me or do others see a lot noise in the shadows, even in the original, but especially in the cropped image?


So much so that even the subject of the crop cannot cover for the deficiencies. ISO 400? distance? small file size? equals a snapshot. Hurrah.

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Jan 3, 2021 12:03:17   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
cahale wrote:
So much so that even the subject of the crop cannot cover for the deficiencies. ISO 400? distance? small file size? equals a snapshot. Hurrah.


What is it about a man enjoying his equipment that has to bring out the comparative negative nature in some of us? Get a life!

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Jan 3, 2021 14:13:06   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Gorgeous color! The model is pretty good too

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Jan 3, 2021 15:18:20   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Don, the 2nd son wrote:
This last year my camera gear has seemed a bit heavy and unsteady. My son & two daughters gave me a great Christmas gift, a SONY RX10 iv. Trying it out I wasn't so sure I was ready to trade my "heavies" for it, when I tried to get my favored result in the same way I always have it just wasn'tquite the same. Consulting other owners I was persuaded to let the SONY do its own thing. I'M SOLD! I'm enjoying this amazing gift to the max.
Here is a shot I took at the beach. This group were quite distant but when I got the image home I was able to crop in on the main action. It works for me!
This last year my camera gear has seemed a bit hea... (show quote)

I have several full frame Sony A7+'s, an A6100, A6000 and the RX10 IV. The RX10 IV is definitely my grab 'n go camera.

A couple of suggestions. Set the focus mode and metering to Center Point, and you'll get great focus and exposure on the subject of interest. Be sure to look into customizing the various buttons, rings and, in particular, the Fn button to your liking for fast access to settings.

Don't be scared to push the ISO. I've shot some quite acceptable images at ISO 6400, i.e.: much better to capture a moment with a bit of noise than to end up with a blurred image. The three attached images were shot at ISO 6400 and at or close to 600mm on a RX10 III, almost identical to the IV except for faster autofocus on the IV. I wouldn't consider the photos worthy of Nat'l Geographic but I'm fair happy with them considering the light conditions. It was the performance of the III that convinced me to upgrade to the IV!

Also, if you're shooting in low light and/or at higher ISO's, take a serious look at Topaz DeNoise AI to clean up any noise that might result; also works nicely on dark shadow noise.

More than anything else, have fun with the camera. It'll very quickly grow on you!!

bwa

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Jan 3, 2021 20:53:45   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
azted wrote:
What is it about a man enjoying his equipment that has to bring out the comparative negative nature in some of us? Get a life!


I quite enjoy mine, thank you. I commented on the quality of the shot, not whether the taker liked it or not. People all over the world seem to like snapshots, or (barf) selfies. I'm sorry; I do not. But even my preferences have no effect on the QUALITY of the shot, or lack thereof.

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Jan 4, 2021 06:22:27   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
SonyA580 wrote:
Is it just me or do others see a lot noise in the shadows, even in the original, but especially in the cropped image?


There has been a bit more noise than I am comfortable with but everything in photography (in my experience) has its trade offs. Coulda run em through Topaz Denoise but didn't.

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Jan 4, 2021 06:43:45   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
bsprague wrote:
The pros in that shoot might not notice you shooting with a lightweight. Would they have objected to a 'heavy'?


That possibility was in the back of my mind it was after all a quasi private affair. When she spotted me her expression was not too happy. She was constantly surrounded by makeup artists dabbing at her body, fluffing her hair. I wondered how many warts could she possibly have to require that much work! They were there for 2 days I was told, about a dozen people, three new vans, SCUBA pros, etc. some one was spending lots of $$$$ and I suspected would be protecting their investment. I didn't go close enough to ask, there was a chilly wind blowing (notice the parkas) and I wanted to get back to the warm car. LOL

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