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Dec 29, 2020 10:25:10   #
insman1132 Loc: Southwest Florida
 
I have both the 900 and the 1000. Like most cameras, both do some things very well and miss the boat on other things. But isn't that generally true for most camera/lens combinations?? Can I suggest: You can get the P1000 for about $1000, which has been its price all along. Order it in from a site that gives you 30 days to return if unsatisfied. I got mine from Amazon, but I think that both Adorama and B & H have the same policy?? Having 29 nights to try it out should make you sure you will like, or not like, it. Have some fun making your decision.

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Dec 29, 2020 12:35:39   #
shangyrhee Loc: Nashville TN to Sacramento CA
 
a6k wrote:
If you can..
A. afford it
B. carry it

then buy the P1000. No kidding, Nikon really did something impressive with that camera. My wife, by her own admission, is a poor photographer. She shoots in "bird" mode exclusively (selected on the camera). At its full extension, the magnification is roughly equal to a 10X telescope. Some of her pictures are simply not achievable with another camera. That you can own it for less than most decent lenses is amazing. The internet is full of examples but if you want some of hers the PM me. She also has the 900. There is simply no comparison. Even yesterday when we were reviewing our shots from that morning at Ding Darling Refuge, she produced some that were a lot better than any of mine. I'm not as good as I'd like to be but I have knowledge, skill and hand strength. She has none of those and still gets great shots.

Do it.
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I love to see images of Jupiter / Saturn. Thank you. Shang

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Dec 29, 2020 12:56:32   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
quixdraw wrote:
Bought the P900 used, worked with it for 10 days and returned it to the vendor. Finder was small and dark, zoom was slow, in every way inferior to my regular Nikon DSLRs. I can't comment on the 950 or 1000 based on personal use, but would suggest you get one in your hands and see how you like it, or buy from a firm that allows return. If you do buy and like it, and it uses EN EL 23, I have two unused BM batteries and charger from my short lived experiment that you can have for postage. Good Luck with your purchase and outcome!
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I have used the P900 since 2016 and have never experienced slow zoom or focus. The brightness of the EVF is adjustable in the settings. I don't understand the "finder" being small.

Ed

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Dec 29, 2020 12:59:02   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
Wingpilot,

I do not understand your statement about the EVF being small and dark. I see it as large as it can be and the brightness is adjustable in settings.

Ed

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Dec 29, 2020 12:59:26   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
Harold Stetson wrote:
I would love to see some of your wife's photos. I am looking at three courses of action. One is to not buy. 2 is to buy a cheap super zoom used to see if I like it. I can get a really good camera with a 50 x zoom for 75 bucks. Try it and see if I like it. The third is to buy a P1000 but it's a little richer than I really want to spend. One reason I am looking is I noticed a P 950 new for 646 bucks and knew that was a good buy. Then you go, for a few bucks more I can have to 1000 and everyone seems to like that camera.
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She only does birds so no planets or moons.

Here are a couple of her good ones from the most recent visits to Ding Darling. These are both SOOC. She has many very good pics from her P900 but the P1000 is the best yet.


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Dec 29, 2020 13:01:40   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Harold Stetson wrote:
I love taking long pictures. I have bought several lenses and love playing. But. I have trouble with things like Jupiter's moons. Getting a perfect focus on them is a problem. I have had some good shots but haven't had a good shot of the conjunction yet. Mainly clouds but had a chance and missed. I am looking at the Nikon P1000 and am amazed at what it can do. A You Tube video was truly amazing. Stabilized and auto focus and up to 125x zoom not to mention the electronic available. Some pretty good buys right now. The P 950 is down around 650 bucks. The P1000 about a thousand. These are my toys and I hate to spend a grand on a camera but probably would if it got enough accolades. I thought I would ask experts about it and see what the thought is.
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I bought a P1000 specifically for planetary, lunar and solar imaging. It has been great and worked very well for the Saturn-Jupiter conjunction and recent Lunar imaging.

It is also getting some use for grab 'n go photography from my deck, per one of our dogs shot at a full 3000mm.

As will any long lens it take practice, patience and a steady hand, preferably a solid tripod, to get the best results for anything over about 600mm and 3000mm can be a challenge.

I'm a Sony fan and have had several 'A' series cameras since 2013. However, the P1000 has impressed me.

bwa

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Dec 29, 2020 13:03:29   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
shangyrhee wrote:
I love to see images of Jupiter / Saturn. Thank you. Shang

Check out the UHH Astrophotography forum... Several of mine are there.

bwa

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Dec 29, 2020 13:09:49   #
shangyrhee Loc: Nashville TN to Sacramento CA
 
bwana wrote:
Check out the UHH Astrophotography forum... Several of mine are there.

bwa


Thank you bwana I will do. Shang

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Dec 29, 2020 13:10:28   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Canisdirus wrote:
Shooting the moon with long lenses is a piece of cake. It's well ... bright...and big.
Saturn/Jupiter is a different animal.
Dark, and small...very small.
The tighter you zoom in, the more movement there will be on your image.
Dark subjects need fast lenses to help compensate...or a star tracker for the necessary longer exposure.

If you want to get serious, buy a telescope and attach camera.
Otherwise...use a wider lens...and capture some sky along with Jupiter/Saturn.

A 3000mm telescope is a beast! I had a Celestron C11, 2800mm, and it weighed 35 lbs. The P1000 is grab 'n go in comparison BUT still requires a solid tripod to get reasonable images.

bwa

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Dec 29, 2020 13:23:23   #
Canisdirus
 
bwana wrote:
A 3000mm telescope is a beast! I had a Celestron C11, 2800mm, and it weighed 35 lbs. The P1000 is grab 'n go in comparison BUT still requires a solid tripod to get reasonable images.

bwa


Completely different comparison though...in fact there is no comparison.
The P1000 may be 3000mm but the marketing will tell you it is an f/8. Not true of course.
Unless you think the Celestron 11 at f/10 is just lazy engineering...but that's the amount of diameter it takes to get f/10 at that focal length.
The crop factor on the P1000 is 5.62. So as a FF equivalent...it's running 3000mm at f/40+.
Yes, it can shoot the moon...because the moon is...easy and bright...but that's about it as far as it can go astro wise.
With a proper solar filter, I suppose the sun is doable as well...again...big and bright.
It would take a star tracker to shoot the P1000 with anything resembling sharp images.
It sure isn't a light bucket...and that's pretty much what it takes without a tracker.

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Dec 29, 2020 13:26:29   #
aginzu
 
shangyrhee wrote:
I love to see images of Jupiter / Saturn. Thank you. Shang


Here is a shot of both Jupiter and Saturn during the recent conjunction. This is a single exposure showing that it's very difficult to get good shots of the planets this way due to atmospheric movement. It was taken with a Sony a6300 through an 8" telescope with eyepiece projection at ISO 6400 and 1/25 sec. providing an equivalent focal length that I would estimate at around 5000 mm. Note that Jupiter is over exposed and Saturn is under exposed because of their relative brightness.

To get good shots of the planets requires multiple exposures and digital stacking. The two below were taken with a cheap 640x480 webcam through a telescope and digitally processed and would be impossible in a single exposure with any camera, even the best super zoom.







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Dec 29, 2020 13:42:32   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
edrobinsonjr wrote:
I have used the P900 since 2016 and have never experienced slow zoom or focus. The brightness of the EVF is adjustable in the settings. I don't understand the "finder" being small.

Ed


The image displayed in the EVF is fairly small, but it’s also not very bright. In good daylight it’s fine, though. The P950 has a brighter, clearer, sharper screen that’s a bit larger. Otherwise, the P900 performs well. I’ve noticed focusing issues with my P900, mostly at longer focal lengths and when the contrast is distinct. It tends to hunt a bit before finally locking in. When it locks the focus in, it’s generally nice and sharp.

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Dec 29, 2020 14:26:40   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
edrobinsonjr wrote:
Wingpilot,

I do not understand your statement about the EVF being small and dark. I see it as large as it can be and the brightness is adjustable in settings.

Ed


It’s not terribly bright, and the image projected in the EVF doesn’t fill the viewing area in the viewfinder. It’s just a small picture. Apparently enough people complained about it that Nikon made it larger and brighter in the P950. To compare, if you have a mirrorless camera or a DSLR, look through the viewfinder, then compare that with what you see in the P900’s viewfinder.

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Dec 29, 2020 17:12:36   #
Tina 2 Loc: New Hampshire
 
Harold Stetson wrote:
I love taking long pictures. I have bought several lenses and love playing. But. I have trouble with things like Jupiter's moons. Getting a perfect focus on them is a problem. I have had some good shots but haven't had a good shot of the conjunction yet. Mainly clouds but had a chance and missed. I am looking at the Nikon P1000 and am amazed at what it can do. A You Tube video was truly amazing. Stabilized and auto focus and up to 125x zoom not to mention the electronic available. Some pretty good buys right now. The P 950 is down around 650 bucks. The P1000 about a thousand. These are my toys and I hate to spend a grand on a camera but probably would if it got enough accolades. I thought I would ask experts about it and see what the thought is.
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Why don't you rent the camera(s) you are interested in, use them and then decide whether or not one of them would be what you're looking for.

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Dec 29, 2020 17:17:51   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
Wingpilot wrote:
It’s not terribly bright, and the image projected in the EVF doesn’t fill the viewing area in the viewfinder. It’s just a small picture. Apparently enough people complained about it that Nikon made it larger and brighter in the P950. To compare, if you have a mirrorless camera or a DSLR, look through the viewfinder, then compare that with what you see in the P900’s viewfinder.


This doesn't sound right. In my EVF the mage covers the entire space. I'll mess with it and see if I cna duplicate it.

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