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Dec 23, 2020 13:39:50   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
bleirer wrote:
I think, since you don't like post processing, DPP4 is for you. You get all the same camera settings that you set, plus a simple dropdown to try out different profiles, plus sliders to adjust things like brightness, sharpness, noise reduction and so on. Plus a basic rating system similar to what you said you do. A little trick I learned: if you click the little up/down indicator you can use the up and down keyboard arrows to get one tenth increments. Otherwise you only get whole number increments.
I think, since you don't like post processing, DPP... (show quote)


Good tip to know. What little I've tried it, I like what I see. It is lacking the clarity slider, but maybe I can do without that except for the very best images.

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Dec 23, 2020 13:42:49   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Jrhoffman75 wrote:
It is correct that Lightroom supplies Adobe profiles for all the supported cameras.

Of the over 100 Canon cameras supported by Lightroom for more than 70 Adobe supplies their approximation of the Canon camera profiles; not everyone is satisfied with the approximations.

However, the link I supplied describes a new feature starting with LrC 9.2 that allows the in-camera settings to be substituted for the Adobe camera profiles.

It is very easy to demonstrate this.

Set a Monochrome Picture Style in camera and shoot RAW. Import that file into LrC without activating the new feature. You will initially see a monochrome image as LrC reads the embedded JPEG and then it will change to a color image when a preview is rendered since LrC is not reading the camera settings.

Then configure LrC as described in the link. Import a new image with a Monochrome Picture Style. You will see that the rendered preview is now monochrome.

Unfortunately, because of some sort of issue between Canon and Adobe this new feature won't work with the new Canon .CR3 RAW file format.
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Thanks, JR.

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Dec 23, 2020 13:45:45   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I bring my file into Lightroom, adjust WB and export to Photoshop. In PS I first run Topaz DeNoise AI. I don't always keep the DeNoise edit but I try it on every image. Then to ACR and click the Auto button and see what happens. If I like it, even somewhat, I use that as a starting point and start moving sliders from there. Starting from scratch on a RAW photo seems like a lot of extra work to me if ACR gives me a good starting place. JMHO


It's funny you say that, because I had never actually tried the "auto" button in either LR or ACR until a couple of weeks ago. I had an image I liked, but simply couldn't get the tones correct. And until they were correct, it just didn't look right. Finally in desperation, I hit the auto button. I couldn't believe my eyes! What I'd been working on for two weeks, auto did in 2 seconds!!!!! It was like it read my mind. I know that won't always be the case, but it certainly saved that image for me.

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Dec 23, 2020 13:50:22   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
tomad wrote:
I try shooting RAW+JPEG every so often and then always go back to JPEG only for the same reason. I can never process a RAW file and make it look as good or better than the camera produced JPEG.


That's where I started out. Then I found that there really is a lot more detail in the RAW images. I still needed instant availability, though, so I still shot JPEGs, as they could be e-mailed directly to editors within minutes of being shot. Since the camera was set up for it, I simply continued doing that, but I would only work on the RAWs. My 1DX (now that it's fixed) does such a good job, that I look first at the JPEGs!

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Dec 23, 2020 14:24:56   #
bleirer
 
AzPicLady wrote:
Good tip to know. What little I've tried it, I like what I see. It is lacking the clarity slider, but maybe I can do without that except for the very best images.


But it does have the digital lens optimizer. Canon's proprietary way to read out the subject distance from the lens then apply adjustments to overcome even the impact of anti aliasing sensor filter.

If you want clarity or any other Lightroom setting you can send to Photoshop under the tools menu and apply the camera raw filter that gives you almost all the functions of Lightroom.

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Dec 23, 2020 14:25:48   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
bleirer wrote:
If you check out the second column here is shows which ones have a camera matching profile. Many 'yes' but many no. I tried it on my Canon RP, no change of any kind when camera settings activated in lightroom, as you said. But either way it is not picking up other in camera settings like digital lens optimization. I wish it did.

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html


Digital Lens Optimization is a computational process. It is either applied in-camera to JPEGs (as long as the lens data is loaded in the camera) or in DPP (as long as the lens data is downloaded from the Canon site). It would require that LrC have both the software routine and the data from Canon in order to achieve that.

LrC can be configured to apply the Lightroom lens correction data as part of the import process. I haven't seen any discussions relative to the Lightroom lens correction data being inadequate.

But, to the OP's initial desire, DPP would be the way to go. Free and completely compatible with the camera.

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Dec 23, 2020 14:29:00   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
bleirer wrote:
But it does have the digital lens optimizer. Canon's proprietary way to read out the subject distance from the lens then apply adjustments to overcome even the impact of anti aliasing sensor filter.

If you want clarity or any other Lightroom setting you can send to Photoshop under the tools menu and apply the camera raw filter that gives you almost all the functions of Lightroom.


I'm still finding my way around the program. I'll look for that. Thanks!

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Dec 23, 2020 14:29:55   #
Jrhoffman75 Loc: Conway, New Hampshire
 
bleirer wrote:
But it does have the digital lens optimizer. Canon's proprietary way to read out the subject distance from the lens then apply adjustments to overcome even the impact of anti aliasing sensor filter.

If you want clarity or any other Lightroom setting you can send to Photoshop under the tools menu and apply the camera raw filter that gives you almost all the functions of Lightroom.


You can also use the batch Process feature of DPP to send the file directly to Lightroom (a "batch" can be a single file).



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Dec 23, 2020 14:31:10   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Jrhoffman75 wrote:
You can also use the batch Process feature of DPP to send the file directly to Lightroom (a "batch" can be a single file).


Thanks for the tip. I'll look at that function.

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Dec 23, 2020 16:47:29   #
bleirer
 
Jrhoffman75 wrote:
Digital Lens Optimization is a computational process. It is either applied in-camera to JPEGs (as long as the lens data is loaded in the camera) or in DPP (as long as the lens data is downloaded from the Canon site). It would require that LrC have both the software routine and the data from Canon in order to achieve that.

LrC can be configured to apply the Lightroom lens correction data as part of the import process. I haven't seen any discussions relative to the Lightroom lens correction data being inadequate.

But, to the OP's initial desire, DPP would be the way to go. Free and completely compatible with the camera.
Digital Lens Optimization is a computational proce... (show quote)


My point was there are things that Lightroom can try to emulate but it is just that, an emulation, and other things they can't even try to emulate because they are proprietary to Canon. Lightroom does an amazing job in my opinion, it just can never be identical to Canon because there is more than one way to covert a raw file.

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Dec 23, 2020 18:06:00   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
bleirer wrote:
My point was there are things that Lightroom can try to emulate but it is just that, an emulation, and other things they can't even try to emulate because they are proprietary to Canon. Lightroom does an amazing job in my opinion, it just can never be identical to Canon because there is more than one way to covert a raw file.


I understand.

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