What would you buy today?
Dec 1, 2020 12:35:46 #
trinhqthuan
Loc: gaithersburg
Gspeed wrote:
Stick with what you have; use the $ you would have paid for the D850 to do some really nice travel and bring your D500 with you.
You're welcome.
~ Eileen
You're welcome.
~ Eileen
Dec 1, 2020 12:46:14 #
BurghByrd
Loc: Pittsburgh
Z7 II. It has about the same resolution as the D850 for about the same price, give or take. With an FTZ adapter I'd be able to use all of my existing F mount FF lenses (those newer than D series with auto focus) and yet be able to take advantage of the newer Z lenses as wanted or needed. Also, the Z bodies offer a few features not available on a "mirrored" viewfinder. The Z6II for about $1200 less is another strong option. Both are currently selling bundled with the FTZ for an additional $50 which is a $200 savings. Of course, I do have a D850 and have no intention of giving it up.
Dec 1, 2020 13:26:39 #
rvenneman wrote:
I had a Nikon D750 when it was first released. But I wanted to jump on the bandwagon and gave the 750 up and sold it for a Fuji XT-1 in 2017. I didn’t like it after the first month but kept it until the 2019 Cyber Monday deal and repurchase a Nikon D750. It was too small, buttons would be pressed by mistake and I didn’t like the EVF.
To me the full frame DSLR feels like a camera. So needless to say, I would go with the Nikon D850.
To me the full frame DSLR feels like a camera. So needless to say, I would go with the Nikon D850.
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Dec 1, 2020 13:58:42 #
imagemeister wrote:
None of those ! ......If you are doing birds, do you realize the increased focal length you will need with FF in order to realize any IQ gains ?? If it were me, I would be using the Z50 with the 300 and 500 PF lenses or STAY with the D500.
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Z50 - "World's Best APS-C mirrorless" Ken Rockwell - https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/z50.htm
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Dec 1, 2020 14:48:12 #
JOHNERIKSSON
Loc: CENTRAL WISCONSIN
WITHIN a couple of years all camera production will be "R" cameras Go buy a new Canon R5
Dec 1, 2020 15:27:02 #
AutoISO wrote:
For Nikon users:ust want to add a full frame body. Do BIF with the D500 & 200-500. Looking for the ability of full frame to provide higher resolution and better low light/ISO capability. Really just like fooling around with these fantastic cameras and their capabilities .
I shoot Canon but I think my experience is relevant. I "moved up" from a 40D to a full frame 5D and guess what, my skills didn't improve one bit - and neither did my pics! Go figure. <g>. Harry PS I still own both but never use the 40D anymore. Again, go figure! Harry PS Maybe I'm just a slob elitest? :-( PS2 Plus I have a drawer full of lens, 90+% of which live there permanently as I almost always use a 35mm or a 70-300. I usually carry a nifty fifty, an 85 or 100 mm and a 70-200 f4 in my bag. And I even use them once in a while. lol
Dec 1, 2020 15:37:38 #
>WITHIN a couple of years all camera production will be "R" cameras Go buy a new Canon R
I'm 90 and already have too much gear so I think that I'll just stick with my 12mp 5Dc. :-) Harry PS I print mostly 8x10s, only display one 13x19 (of a Sonoma beach) from my 35mm days. Lots of 8x10s though 'till my wife starts complaining about "dust magnets" so then I tear 'em up and start over!
I'm 90 and already have too much gear so I think that I'll just stick with my 12mp 5Dc. :-) Harry PS I print mostly 8x10s, only display one 13x19 (of a Sonoma beach) from my 35mm days. Lots of 8x10s though 'till my wife starts complaining about "dust magnets" so then I tear 'em up and start over!
Dec 1, 2020 16:02:56 #
Dean37
Loc: Fresno, CA
Retired CPO wrote:
Trust me, no one is looking at her eyes. 
Did the photo capture the eyes?
Dec 1, 2020 16:41:02 #
Larry Page put it very appropriately.
I will add.....To your consternation.....You are showing signs of gear acquisition syndrome.
You have what it needs to produce....Great photographs.
Five years down the line, D500 is as good as anyone really needs.
My humble POV.
I will add.....To your consternation.....You are showing signs of gear acquisition syndrome.
You have what it needs to produce....Great photographs.
Five years down the line, D500 is as good as anyone really needs.
My humble POV.
Dec 1, 2020 16:41:24 #
Dean37
Loc: Fresno, CA
I'll stay with what I have, but am willing to upgrade to a D750. Main reason is because of my F lenses, but also because the feel of the dSLR'S compared to the tiny Z cameras. When I want a camera that small I use my P7800.
Dec 1, 2020 16:42:04 #
I shot DX and thought it was ok until I saw a D700. I couldn't believe FF could make such a difference, it does.
There is an expense to FF, a lot of $$ for glass. I have been mostly sucessful buying used glass to reduce that burden a little.
Since buying the D850 I have not been able to take a bad picture. Perhaps thats a bit of an exagguration but not much. You don't have to worry about exposure, even if you screw up there is so much dynamic range you can recover. If you over do the highlights you can lose it but not on the low end of exposure. I do have the grip and never worry about battery life, I go weeks without ever thinking of charging and when birding 9 frames a second is good for me, faster than any otgher camera I have had. My longest lens is 600mm so even when birding I often have to do substantial cropping, it is simply amazing how much you can crop with nearly 47 megapixels.
There are features on the Z6 and 7 I would probably like but not the small size. I have large hands and love being able to securly operate the controls and handle the camera. I fell recently on rocks and my D850 crashed with me. I really feared I would have to replace it, it held up well with a few minor scratches.
I have gotten rid of all my cameras except the D850. I got rid of a D3200, D300. D700, D800 and my D810. I loved them all but they don't hold a candle to the D850. The low light performance of the D850 is very good. It isn't a D4s but for 46.7 megapixels it does VERY well in low light even better than the D700 which was excellent. There is no noise problem even at moderate ISO's, I don't think twice at shooting at ISO 3200, you get clean images and won't see noise unless you start enlarging quite a bit and even then Photoshop CC noise control will get rid of it.
The Z's have some great video abilities, I don't do video. The Z's are light weight, so? Who cares. My glass is heavier than my D850, heck my tripod is heavier than the D850, weight is my last concern, picture quality is my first concern and you get it with the D850. Yes the D850's are really pretty inexpensive now and if you are willing to buy used now is the time. So many people think they want mirrorless that are getting rid of their 850's so they can afford the Z's, it makes now an excellent time to steal one.
My feeling is it's all about the picture. It doesn't matter what the camera does if it takes superior pictures you want to use it. I have a son who shoots medium format at 50mpx, my pictures are usually superior to his. His is ok in the studio but on landscapes on locatation it sucks. The D850 shines out doors in the rain the snow the sand and dust. I can't say enough about how great it is. I have never spoken to anyone who had a D850 and was willing to get rid of it except people who wanted the Z's and haven't talked to them after the change.
DX and cropped FX are very similar so to me any advantage you might think you will have with the D500 are included with a D850 cropped. Yeah, DX glass is cheaper, for sure, but try cropping that 24mpx frame to 25% of the original and see what you have. You can do that with the D850 and nobody will know.
If you think I like my D850 you would be correct. Happy shopping!
There is an expense to FF, a lot of $$ for glass. I have been mostly sucessful buying used glass to reduce that burden a little.
Since buying the D850 I have not been able to take a bad picture. Perhaps thats a bit of an exagguration but not much. You don't have to worry about exposure, even if you screw up there is so much dynamic range you can recover. If you over do the highlights you can lose it but not on the low end of exposure. I do have the grip and never worry about battery life, I go weeks without ever thinking of charging and when birding 9 frames a second is good for me, faster than any otgher camera I have had. My longest lens is 600mm so even when birding I often have to do substantial cropping, it is simply amazing how much you can crop with nearly 47 megapixels.
There are features on the Z6 and 7 I would probably like but not the small size. I have large hands and love being able to securly operate the controls and handle the camera. I fell recently on rocks and my D850 crashed with me. I really feared I would have to replace it, it held up well with a few minor scratches.
I have gotten rid of all my cameras except the D850. I got rid of a D3200, D300. D700, D800 and my D810. I loved them all but they don't hold a candle to the D850. The low light performance of the D850 is very good. It isn't a D4s but for 46.7 megapixels it does VERY well in low light even better than the D700 which was excellent. There is no noise problem even at moderate ISO's, I don't think twice at shooting at ISO 3200, you get clean images and won't see noise unless you start enlarging quite a bit and even then Photoshop CC noise control will get rid of it.
The Z's have some great video abilities, I don't do video. The Z's are light weight, so? Who cares. My glass is heavier than my D850, heck my tripod is heavier than the D850, weight is my last concern, picture quality is my first concern and you get it with the D850. Yes the D850's are really pretty inexpensive now and if you are willing to buy used now is the time. So many people think they want mirrorless that are getting rid of their 850's so they can afford the Z's, it makes now an excellent time to steal one.
My feeling is it's all about the picture. It doesn't matter what the camera does if it takes superior pictures you want to use it. I have a son who shoots medium format at 50mpx, my pictures are usually superior to his. His is ok in the studio but on landscapes on locatation it sucks. The D850 shines out doors in the rain the snow the sand and dust. I can't say enough about how great it is. I have never spoken to anyone who had a D850 and was willing to get rid of it except people who wanted the Z's and haven't talked to them after the change.
DX and cropped FX are very similar so to me any advantage you might think you will have with the D500 are included with a D850 cropped. Yeah, DX glass is cheaper, for sure, but try cropping that 24mpx frame to 25% of the original and see what you have. You can do that with the D850 and nobody will know.
If you think I like my D850 you would be correct. Happy shopping!
Dec 1, 2020 16:42:45 #
On the road to success, there's no traffic jams on the extra mile, but plenty of full-frame bodies.
Dec 1, 2020 16:55:00 #
There are a lot of naysayers, that think the only reason to get a new camera is to take better photos. I have a D500 and I’ll agree that my Z7 doesn’t necessarily take better photos, but it’s a better tool for some of the photos I take. The D500 replaced a D7200, not because it took better photos, but because it had features that made it a better tool for some of my work. It’s not always about the result. The user experience is important to some of us.
Dec 1, 2020 19:25:59 #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
There are a lot of naysayers, that think the only reason to get a new camera is to take better photos. I have a D500 and I’ll agree that my Z7 doesn’t necessarily take better photos, but it’s a better tool for some of the photos I take. The D500 replaced a D7200, not because it took better photos, but because it had features that made it a better tool for some of my work. It’s not always about the result. The user experience is important to some of us.
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I started taking pictures seriously in the 60's then in college got a job with the school to work on the paper and yearbook which helped pay my way. After that it was just a sometimes hobby until Digital and Photoshop. After those two things and of course kids it became a serious hobby. In old age it is a wonderful hobby and to me it IS ALL about the qulity of the photo. Some hang on my walls, my kids walls and friends walls. At my funeral I expect a few will be around and I want something worth looking at and someone to say He sure raised some good kids and was a great husband but then I also want someone to say, "wow, he sure could take a good picture."
Dec 1, 2020 20:08:39 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
Most people only dream of success, the successful few wake up and buy a mirrorless camera.
Choosing mirrorless has nothing to do with "success". I think you know that, but since obviously you have one, you just couldn't help yourself, could you?
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