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Nov 29, 2020 20:08:07   #
Drledft1
 
FYI - the Canon mirrorless system uses a different mount- (mount much wider) which is part of the reason Canon switched to it. It all depends on what kind of photography you do and more importantly what are you going to do with your images. If you are going to upload to the web anything will work. Just look at the model images vs. the downloaded ones - huge difference. Are you going to use your images commercially? or make LARGE prints? Then you need large files? I shoot sports and wildlife as well as nature and landscape. I have ordered the Canon R5 because of a number of reasons- large files(so I can crop my birds and sports images). In body stabilization coupled with lens stabilization so I can shoot in low light without having to shoot ISO 6400; high frame rates, etc. And finally some unique lenses not available with their DSLR. I will continue to use my regular lenses and gradually switch over. One final point- Nikon is a very small company compared to Sony and Canon. They have made, I believe a bad decision to continue both their DSLR and the mirrorless line. They don’t appear to have the resources to do what is necessary. I would recommend buying a Nikon 850. It is by far the best DSLR I have ever seen; no one else comes close. Buy the best glass you can afford and IMHO within a year or two you will find prices coming down precipitously. Good luck.

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Nov 29, 2020 20:15:14   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
traderjohn wrote:
In your retirement, if as you say money is a concern, the last thing you need is a new camera. Why?


$1500 is fine $4000 is not. It is not that I dont have the money its I have better things to spend it on, such as the boat , if you think photography hobby is expensive, then dont buy aboat

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Nov 29, 2020 20:42:03   #
fstoprookie Loc: Central Valley of California
 
bdk wrote:
$1500 is fine $4000 is not. It is not that I dont have the money its I have better things to spend it on, such as the boat , if you think photography hobby is expensive, then dont buy aboat


I'm telling you how true it is. A photography hobby is like being in kindergarten and a boat is like being in Graduate school. You have know idea how expensive a boat can get.

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Nov 29, 2020 21:20:18   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Longshadow wrote:
What is prompting you to consider mirrorless?
Is your present camera not living up to your desires?


Likely because he wants mirrorless format?

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Nov 29, 2020 21:30:17   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
BebuLamar wrote:
If you think the mirrorless taking better pictures I think you will be disappointed. There is no inherit reasons why the mirrorless would take better pictures.


Oh, stop it...if the OP wants to go mirrorless, just allow him to. We all have our reasons, biases, and favourites. We do not have to protect the aging FF mirror technology. It is on the verge of becoming the next “DoDo” bird, and we all know it.

We can still enjoy the old tech, because it is good, but there is a new age coming to photography, like it or not. We will all capitulate at one time or another, just as we are doing with electric cars and we did with the transition from film to the digital age so many years ago. We can already see the future with the two big guns heading in a different direction than the older technology.

For the record, I still use FF gear, and enjoy it under some circumstances, however, for many reasons, my mirrorless hardware is rapidly taking its place...

Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas!!!

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Nov 29, 2020 21:36:38   #
xt2 Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
bdk wrote:
I am considering buying a mirrorless camera. I currently shoot Nikon.
The new Nikon mirrorless cameras have a different lens mount. Making all my lenses useless.

so I will look at the Nikon z5 and z7II

I read the new Canon mirrorless cameras use their same lens mount and
Canon lenses are def cheaper in price that a nikon lens.
Now that I am retired money is a lot more important than before.

but if you are using a mirrorless camera, what one are you using and how do you like it
and last but most important how is the picture quality compared to your old DSLR?

I have read reviews, I have talked to salesman . everyone has an agenda , as do some of you but I know i'll get some good answers.
Thanks
I am considering buying a mirrorless camera. I cu... (show quote)


Not certain you will find “better” photos with any FF or Mirrorless based ware. Once you work with top notch gear, SLR, FF, or mirrorless, it will not be about your camera...it will be about you. It will be about what makes you smile and proud of your product, amount of gear you have to lug about, how much pleasure, yes, fun your chosen hardware is to pursue the hobby, and amount of $$$ you have had to spend. Unless you are blowing up photos to huge and I mean huge dimensions, there are a lot of options out there. Consider what your goals for photography are and then ignore all of us, who have our own biases that please us...& no necessarily you.

Merry Christmas to you and yours!


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Nov 30, 2020 09:20:05   #
Old44
 
My Nikon D780 is in the shop and I bought the Nikon Z50 with an extra $50 for the FTZ adapter as part of the current sale. While it isn't the D7870 or D500, the Z50 is considerably lighter and I am very impressed with the images and how the operation is similar to all the Nikon camera systems I have had. It marries quite well with my 300mm f/4 PF and my 70-300 f/4.

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Nov 30, 2020 10:58:45   #
mikec01 Loc: Georgia, USA
 
I sold my Canon 7D for mirrorless Canon M6, strictly because of the weight difference. I'm totally satisfied. I take it on hikes that previously I would have relied solely on my phone.

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Nov 30, 2020 16:22:13   #
gouldopfl
 
I am sure there is an adapter. The Canon mirrorless use the new RF mount, however Canon shipped an adapter with the EOS R which adapted the EF lenses to RF and works well.

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Dec 1, 2020 07:54:26   #
no12mo
 
Generally speaking, when I see this kind of thread - my impression is that the originator of the thread bought a DSLR with a kit lens - no extra lens and the attendant expenditure and so, no real concern for an investment on DX format lens.

If one goes from an DX format DSLR Nikon to a mirrorless camera, can you use the DX format lens that you already spent a lot of money on on the mirrorless camera? I don't think so - that would be a tough decision for me

I have thousands of bux invested on DX format lens that I would have to give up should I make the change. Can DX format lens be used on mirrorless cameras without loss of features -functions?

Alan

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Dec 1, 2020 08:03:26   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you want to be a better photographer, buy a mirrorless camera.

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Dec 1, 2020 08:05:21   #
no12mo
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you want to be a better photographer, buy a mirrorless camera.



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Dec 1, 2020 15:29:26   #
Ava'sPapa Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you want to be a better photographer, buy a mirrorless camera.


I did, Paul. I returned the Z6II to Adorama and purchased an R6. After reading a lot of reviews I HAD to. I've had Nikon for decades and will keep the ones I have for a while anyway. I couldn't pass on the exceptional eye-focus, and the articulating and touch screen. I know I can get an EF to RF adapter, but is there a Nikon to Canon adapter? I can see a difference already. I really like it.

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Dec 2, 2020 14:28:48   #
petrochemist Loc: UK
 
bdk wrote:
I am considering buying a mirrorless camera. I currently shoot Nikon.
The new Nikon mirrorless cameras have a different lens mount. Making all my lenses useless.

so I will look at the Nikon z5 and z7II

I read the new Canon mirrorless cameras use their same lens mount and
Canon lenses are def cheaper in price that a nikon lens.
Now that I am retired money is a lot more important than before.

but if you are using a mirrorless camera, what one are you using and how do you like it
and last but most important how is the picture quality compared to your old DSLR?

I have read reviews, I have talked to salesman . everyone has an agenda , as do some of you but I know i'll get some good answers.
Thanks
I am considering buying a mirrorless camera. I cu... (show quote)


You've been misinformed.
Your existing lenses can be adapted to Nikon's new mirrorless mount as well as to practically any other mirrorless mount if you can arrange focus & aperture control.
Canon's mirrorless mounts (there are 2 different ones the crop sensor M series & the RF) are both different to their DSLR mounts. Again adapetrs can be used.

In both cases the adapted lenses may not perform quite as well (wrt to AF speed etc) on mirrorless as they do on their native bodies, but IQ should be every bit as good.

I've been using mirrorless bodies for years, starting with a used G1 which enabled my lenses to do things they simply couldn't on their native bodies. Subsequently I've added extra mirrorless bodies in MFT, APSC & FF.
Picture quality is not determined by if the body is a DSLR or mirrorless.
My 24MP FF mirrorless has better IQ than an older 16MP APSC DSLR (big suprise!) the NEX6 is fairly comparable with my K5ii, but the mirrorless body is able to use rangefinder lenses, has better focus assist features in the viewfinder and is easier to use in very low light.

Mirrorless cameras have many advantages, but they do have some disadvantages too. What do you hope to gain by this change? If money is tight is it worth it?
My DSLRs are probably older than yours (one I still use is a sigma SD14 released in late 2006, but even the newest is over 5 years old). I've added multiple mirrorless systems to my options all brought used after the range had been updated several times. I have a huge selection of cheap lenses I can use on any of my mirrorless bodies, including several I've extracted from broken fixed lens cameras as I enjoy the challenge of adapting odball lenses. So for me mirrorless has great benefits, if all your lenses are Nikon DSLR models you probably won't gain much by switching.

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Dec 2, 2020 14:53:02   #
mikec01 Loc: Georgia, USA
 
gouldopfl wrote:
I am sure there is an adapter. The Canon mirrorless use the new RF mount, however Canon shipped an adapter with the EOS R which adapted the EF lenses to RF and works well.


I am able to use all of my old Canon and 3rd party lenses with my Canon mirrorless camera (with adapter). The adapter does add a few ounces to the weight, but it's negligible.

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