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Nov 29, 2020 19:01:51   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
btbg wrote:
I am not trying to defend Trump. He is going to lose his court cases and Biden is going to be named president.

That does not mean that the e******n rules changes this year didn't alter the outcome of the e******n, nor does it change that any of those changes not specifically approved by state legislatures are unconstitutional.

Biden won because the rules were illegally changed. The fact that some judges do not have the intellectual honesty to read the Constitution and throw out those changes is what constitutes fraud. There is no way to interpret the Constitution other than that the various state legislatures must make all e******n rules. It is a fact that this year they did not. That is not an opinion. That is a fact. The only opinion involved in my statement is the opinion that Trump would have won had the rules not been changed. That is opinion. But anyone with a second grade education can clearly read the Constitution and know that it was not followed.
I am not trying to defend Trump. He is going to lo... (show quote)


For the life of me I do not understand why people like you, who are apparent experts on all things relating to e******n laws have not contacted team Trump. You and people like you have found the magic legal bullet that will save trump's ass. Something that has completely escaped team Trump.

Quit wasting your time arguing with me. Contact Gualaini STAT. Dear Leader needs you.

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Nov 29, 2020 20:38:24   #
btbg
 
Bazbo wrote:
For the life of me I do not understand why people like you, who are apparent experts on all things relating to e******n laws have not contacted team Trump. You and people like you have found the magic legal bullet that will save trump's ass. Something that has completely escaped team Trump.

Quit wasting your time arguing with me. Contact Gualaini STAT. Dear Leader needs you.


I am amazed that liberals refuse to acknowledge what the Constitution says. I'm not arguing with you. I am stating a fact concerning what the Constitution says. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge that shows just how biased you are.

I haven't found anything that will save Trump. Judges who think like you do will allow the e******n to stand as done despite the fact that it was done illegally.

Example, a judge correctly ruled that Newsom overstepped his authority in California, but the v**e still stands. My point is that the e******n was s****n by the illegal rule changes, not that Trump will eventually be named president. He will not. Biden will be declared the winner, but that doesn't change the fact that the rules were illegally changed.

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Nov 29, 2020 21:47:07   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
btbg wrote:
I am amazed that liberals refuse to acknowledge what the Constitution says. I'm not arguing with you. I am stating a fact concerning what the Constitution says. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge that shows just how biased you are.

I haven't found anything that will save Trump. Judges who think like you do will allow the e******n to stand as done despite the fact that it was done illegally.

Example, a judge correctly ruled that Newsom overstepped his authority in California, but the v**e still stands. My point is that the e******n was s****n by the illegal rule changes, not that Trump will eventually be named president. He will not. Biden will be declared the winner, but that doesn't change the fact that the rules were illegally changed.
I am amazed that liberals refuse to acknowledge wh... (show quote)


Just quote the Constitution and shut down this debate!

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Nov 30, 2020 11:09:12   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
btbg wrote:
I am amazed that liberals refuse to acknowledge what the Constitution says. I'm not arguing with you. I am stating a fact concerning what the Constitution says. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge that shows just how biased you are.

I haven't found anything that will save Trump. Judges who think like you do will allow the e******n to stand as done despite the fact that it was done illegally.

Example, a judge correctly ruled that Newsom overstepped his authority in California, but the v**e still stands. My point is that the e******n was s****n by the illegal rule changes, not that Trump will eventually be named president. He will not. Biden will be declared the winner, but that doesn't change the fact that the rules were illegally changed.
I am amazed that liberals refuse to acknowledge wh... (show quote)


How is it that Trump keeps losing? How is it that you, of all people, have the true meaning of the constitution. I guess all of those people with fancy ass law degrees have wasted their effort and money and all of those people that have spent decades in this field have wasted their time and lives.

Back when I was working in NYC I used to say that what was really wrong with the country is that the only people who what was going on and what to do about were all driving cabs.

Same as it ever was.

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Nov 30, 2020 11:14:28   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
Bazbo wrote:
Back when I was working in NYC I used to say that what was really wrong with the country is that the only people who [knew] what was going on and what to do about [it] were all driving cabs.

And the funny part of that is that most of the cab drivers are... ... immigrants!

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Nov 30, 2020 11:45:34   #
btbg
 
mwalsh wrote:
Just quote the Constitution and shut down this debate!


The Times, Places and Manner of holding E******ns for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Since states send out just one b****t the same rules have to apply for president as well.

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Nov 30, 2020 12:54:59   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
btbg wrote:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding E******ns for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Since states send out just one b****t the same rules have to apply for president as well.


I figured this was what you are basing your opinion on.

First it does not mention rules, it does not say all the minutia involved must be legislated.

I wish I had marked the link, but the SCOTUS has held in past cases that Legislatures of States was not limited to Houses and Senates.

You should probably study some case precedents before you decide you are a Constitutional scholar.

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Nov 30, 2020 13:18:43   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
btbg wrote:
I am amazed that liberals refuse to acknowledge what the Constitution says. I'm not arguing with you. I am stating a fact concerning what the Constitution says. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge that shows just how biased you are.

I haven't found anything that will save Trump. Judges who think like you do will allow the e******n to stand as done despite the fact that it was done illegally.

Example, a judge correctly ruled that Newsom overstepped his authority in California, but the v**e still stands. My point is that the e******n was s****n by the illegal rule changes, not that Trump will eventually be named president. He will not. Biden will be declared the winner, but that doesn't change the fact that the rules were illegally changed.
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I have commented on this subject numerous time to say “ fine take all v**es away that would be affected by that issue””

Trump still loses not only PA but the e******n. The court said they would look at the issue “ If “ repeat “IF” it could affect the e******n. It doesn’t and wont

Move on. And fix this later. But quit harping on it as if it would change anything . It won’t

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Nov 30, 2020 14:22:11   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
mwalsh wrote:
I figured this was what you are basing your opinion on.

First it does not mention rules, it does not say all the minutia involved must be legislated.

I wish I had marked the link, but the SCOTUS has held in past cases that Legislatures of States was not limited to Houses and Senates.

You should probably study some case precedents before you decide you are a Constitutional scholar.


This might help explaining the concept of delegation of legislative power. And why Trump keeps losing.

Most, if not all, States have already delegated the e******n law administration to the various SoSs.
Also, local and state jurisdictions have pretty broad powers when it comes to public safety and most of the changes are result of the raging health crisis in every part of our country.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/delegation-of-legislative-power.aspx

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Nov 30, 2020 14:42:50   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Bazbo wrote:
You have an opinion. However the weight of American jurisprudence disagrees. If you actually win a court case, we can discuss. Until then you have only an opinion.

It is really a shame that the no one is listening to you because you know more than any of the litigants, the counsels, the local e******n officials and the judges.

Unfair, isn't it?


Likewise the issue of the legislature has not been decided either, unless I am wrong the court merely stated they could ( not would )take a look at it if needed to decide an outcome—- it doesn’t

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